MrEpsYtown Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Why would the Bills meet with Malik Willis?? Also to find about a bit about him for when they might be playing against whatever team he gets drafted by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Why would the Bills meet with Malik Willis?? I don't think the Bills would draft him even if he made it that far...........which seems inconceivable at this point..........but they could just as easily end up with a JAG cornerback(for instance) at pick #25 who ends up a lesser player than UDFA Levi Wallace was for the team as they are likely to get a franchise cornerstone player. As I've always said..........any first round pick not used on a QB1 prospect is an overrated asset. So much of the game is about who you have at QB. Edited March 10, 2022 by BADOLBILZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Interesting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I don't think the Bills would draft him even if he made it that far...........which seems inconceivable at this point..........but they could just as easily end up with a JAG cornerback(for instance) at pick #25 who ends up a lesser player than UDFA Levi Wallace was for the team as they are likely to get a franchise cornerstone player. As I've always said..........any first round pick not used on a QB1 prospect is an overrated asset. So much of the game is about who you have at QB. So drafting Aaron Donald for example would be an overrated asset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Why would the Bills meet with Malik Willis?? Old Belichick move to scout the highly touted qb prospects. He would pick their brain and then use that information against them going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Billzgobowlin said: So drafting Aaron Donald for example would be an overrated asset? Yes..........even the great Aaron Donald without a franchise QB isn't winning a Super Bowl. Only one position has franchise changing impact in and of itself. And mind you.........I was THE "draft Aaron Donald" guy on this board. He was, IMO, the obvious best defensive player in the draft. I started a thread about it. I got about 5 "we don't need a DL" responses and that was all TSW had to say about that. I've made this point about first round picks before........if you simply drafted a QB in round 1 every year your franchise would be better off than the relative randomness of drafting other positions. The Bills were a prime example of this............when they made the playoffs after 16 years of being issued an early-mid first round selection.........NONE of those first rounders was on the field when they finally made the playoffs in year 17. First round picks are overrated.........I'm all about using them efficiently to get the most out of your team...........but if you can make the playoffs with NONE on your roster prior to that year's choice.........what does that tell YOU? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Why would the Bills meet with Malik Willis?? "Information. We want information..." Edited March 11, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 9:08 AM, BADOLBILZ said: No Christian Watson either. AKA Punt Catcher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Very interesting. This is an indication that they are looking for that waterbug change of pace back. I have been talking about Jerick McKinnon a lot. Borghi is that type of back who can catch the ball out of the backfield, can play receiver, and can take a check down to the house. I think that is what this offense is missing. I am interested in seeing what Borghi times in the 40. If he is a 4.4 guy I'm in. If not, it's meh. I don't know if Borghi is truly the guy, but this may be an indication they would pursue a McKinnon, James White, JD McKissic, Giovanni Bernard, Duke Johnson, or the apex of this type of player CMC. Edited March 11, 2022 by MrEpsYtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, BobbyC81 said: AKA Punt Catcher? 2022 Bills plan: All punts are allowed to land, and roll until dead. The 'McKittrick Strategy' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 12:08 PM, BADOLBILZ said: No Christian Watson either. I got all excited, I read it as Christian WADE. Can never get enough of Christian Wade talk. Next year is his coming out party 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 2:02 PM, aristocrat said: If we got Jameson Williams I would have to call my Dr for some meds for that 6 month erection i'd have . Pretty sure I read on the PSU site that Jahan Dotson met with the Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 10:09 AM, YoloinOhio said: Astro has a lot of data - such as how many games the Bills scouted in person for the players and who was there (ie Beane) example - Is it just me, or does McDuffie sound like Doug Whaley? Voice and speech patterns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) On 3/9/2022 at 12:22 PM, DrDawkinstein said: Thanks for the info. I re-sorted by position and quantity. Not surprising, C/G and CB lead the way, with WR not too far behind. And DT getting a little love too. Cam Jurgens - C/G Nebraska Logan Bruss - C/G Wisconsin Zion Johnson - C/G Boston College Lecitus Smith - G Virginia Tech Dohnovan West - C/G Arizona State Kenyon Green - C/G Texas A&M Josh Thompson - CB Texas (Senior Bowl) Roger McCreary - CB Auburn Trent McDuffie - CB - Washington Kaiir Elam - CB Florida Kyler Gordon - CB Washington Andrew Booth - CB Clemson Jameson Williams- WR Bama Treylon Burks - WR Arkansas Garrett Wilson - WR OSU Chris Olave - WR OSU John Metchie III - WR Bama Jordan Davis - DT Georgia Perrion Winfrey - DT Oklahoma Phidarian Mathis - DT Bama Max Borghi - RB Washington State Rachaad White - RB Arizona State Brandon Smith - LB PSU Darrian Beavers - LB Cincinnati Malik Willis - QB Liberty Cade Otton - TE Washington Matt Araiza - P San Diego State Arnold Ebiketie - DE PSU Jaquan Brisker - S - PSU looking at this list, Im guessing we target RB and DE in FA or trade predraft- McCaffery or Barkley, and Chandler Jones possibly IMO Which leaves me to believe we draft CB, WR, G with our first 3 picks. Probably our 3 biggest needs, especially after our big signings Edited March 12, 2022 by Pete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 3/10/2022 at 1:02 PM, BADOLBILZ said: Yes..........even the great Aaron Donald without a franchise QB isn't winning a Super Bowl. Only one position has franchise changing impact in and of itself. And mind you.........I was THE "draft Aaron Donald" guy on this board. He was, IMO, the obvious best defensive player in the draft. I started a thread about it. I got about 5 "we don't need a DL" responses and that was all TSW had to say about that. I've made this point about first round picks before........if you simply drafted a QB in round 1 every year your franchise would be better off than the relative randomness of drafting other positions. The Bills were a prime example of this............when they made the playoffs after 16 years of being issued an early-mid first round selection.........NONE of those first rounders was on the field when they finally made the playoffs in year 17. First round picks are overrated.........I'm all about using them efficiently to get the most out of your team...........but if you can make the playoffs with NONE on your roster prior to that year's choice.........what does that tell YOU? I disagree that you can't get value from the first round other than a franchise QB. Yes they change your dynamics but can't do it alone. The first pick McDermott had was Tre White, in fact they traded a chance at drafting Mahomes so they could put a QB in a good spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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No_Matter_What Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Interesting. Google says this guy is a tackle projected at the end ouf 2nd round, I didn't think we were focusing on tackles too. But I am for anything what makes our line better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: Interesting. Google says this guy is a tackle projected at the end ouf 2nd round, I didn't think we were focusing on tackles too. But I am for anything what makes our line better. Starting to see these 2nd/3rd round OT visits pile up. I know teams visit with lots of players at lots of positions, but you sort of wonder if OT could be a sneaky pick this draft. Spencer Brown was good most of the time, but not SO good that Beane would definitely say "we're all set at tackle!", ESPECIALLY with only unproven depth in Tommy Doyle behind Dawkins and Brown. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 7:49 AM, YoloinOhio said: The way this guy runs is mesmerizing, such short choppy steps. He is no more than a day 3 pick tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 2:49 AM, YoloinOhio said: Beane probably loves this guy, he looks like a McCaffery lite. I wouldn't mind this pick early day 3. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Logic said: Starting to see these 2nd/3rd round OT visits pile up. I know teams visit with lots of players at lots of positions, but you sort of wonder if OT could be a sneaky pick this draft. Spencer Brown was good most of the time, but not SO good that Beane would definitely say "we're all set at tackle!", ESPECIALLY with only unproven depth in Tommy Doyle behind Dawkins and Brown. Lots of college OTs become OGs in the NFL. I'm sure any tackles they're considering could also potentially play guard. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, 947 said: Lots of college OTs become OGs in the NFL. I'm sure any tackles they're considering could also potentially play guard. The Bills O line is a roster of college left tackles. I love the approach. Dawkins, Saffold, Morse, Bates, Doyle were all excellent college left tackles. Brown played RT because of the presence of Penning, but otherwise he would have played there as well. Ike Boettger was a RT. Greg Mancz played tackle and guard. Cody Ford played RT. Even Jacob Capra played guard and tackle. Going backwards Daryll Williams was a RT and Jon Feliciano played guard and tackle. Freakin Vlad Ducasse was a college left tackle. Quintin Spain played a ton of left tackle at WV until moving to guard. Wyatt Teller was a defensive end who moved to tackle then guard. It makes sense to draft guys who played the most difficult, elite position on the line and convert them to other positions. I like the approach as opposed to drafting pure IOL. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Brandon Smith looks like he is built in the lab but is slow to process the play. Please not at pick #25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Unrelated but still draft related I guess just cool if nothing else. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Unrelated but still draft related I guess just cool if nothing else. wtf... I would be swatting air 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: The Bills O line is a roster of college left tackles. I love the approach. Dawkins, Saffold, Morse, Bates, Doyle were all excellent college left tackles. Brown played RT because of the presence of Penning, but otherwise he would have played there as well. Ike Boettger was a RT. Greg Mancz played tackle and guard. Cody Ford played RT. Even Jacob Capra played guard and tackle. Going backwards Daryll Williams was a RT and Jon Feliciano played guard and tackle. Freakin Vlad Ducasse was a college left tackle. Quintin Spain played a ton of left tackle at WV until moving to guard. Wyatt Teller was a defensive end who moved to tackle then guard. It makes sense to draft guys who played the most difficult, elite position on the line and convert them to other positions. I like the approach as opposed to drafting pure IOL. NPF was a 5 star recruit, #1 OT in the country in the 2018 class. I do think he’s an NFL OT. Ohio state stuck anyone and everyone, all the tackles, at guard …except him. We will see what happens at the next level but I feel like he’s going to be drafted as someone’s LT of the future. Edited March 24, 2022 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, LEBills said: The way this guy runs is mesmerizing, such short choppy steps. He is no more than a day 3 pick tho. Perfect for running on a snowy field....just sayin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 34 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: No. Please no. No. No. No. No. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No. Please no. No. No. No. No. I'd hope that Beane has learned the folly of throwing good draft picks at RB's of this ilk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 53 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No. Please no. No. No. No. No. Beane has not been the best RB picker… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 38 minutes ago, LEBills said: Beane has not been the best RB picker… I liked singletary in the 3rd round. Good pick imo. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I liked singletary in the 3rd round. Good pick imo. Singletary has had his moments. Moss, Chris Ivory, Frank Gore, TJ Yeldon, Matt Breida have been forgettable additions. Granted we have not spent a ton of capital on RBs in his era. Spiller to me would not be a very good pick, my concern being that he has fumbled 8 times on 615 touches over 3 years. The rest of his game is not special, kind of average all around imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I liked singletary in the 3rd round. Good pick imo. He was both the best RB prospect in that draft, IMO.........and still a low ceiling option to use that pick on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 8:09 AM, JayBaller10 said: Great to see so many interior OL players though. On 3/9/2022 at 9:22 AM, DrDawkinstein said: I re-sorted by position and quantity. Not surprising, C/G and CB lead the way, with WR not too far behind. And DT getting a little love too. Cam Jurgens - C/G Nebraska Logan Bruss - C/G Wisconsin Zion Johnson - C/G Boston College Lecitus Smith - G Virginia Tech Dohnovan West - C/G Arizona State Kenyon Green - C/G Texas A&M On 3/9/2022 at 10:46 AM, Rockinon said: Lot of C/G in that list. Is it not a bit odd that the Bills have not spoken with Tyler Linderbaum? He's the consensus best C in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 56 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Is it not a bit odd that the Bills have not spoken with Tyler Linderbaum? He's the consensus best C in this draft. It could be that they are hiding their interest, or maybe they aren’t interested. Linderbaum can play guard but doesn’t have the same level versatility as those other guys. 🤷♂️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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