NewEra Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 years 60M Lol. What a joke. Way to screw up the market even more. Chargers are paying Allen and Williams 20M aav. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Never liked him on the Bills. Total bust and set us back for years. 1 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mama Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) Something about that name makes me ill. Edited March 8, 2022 by Joe Mama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 We had to many Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 He’s really good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, NewEra said: 3 years 60M Lol. What a joke. Way to screw up the market even more. Chargers are paying Allen and Williams 20M aav. McKenzie getting $12M per confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Hence why I’ve been saying no way Kirk comes here, he’s gonna get paid in this market. His price may have just jumped to $14m per now. $20m for an inconsistent and oft injured WR is crazy to me. It’s as bad as the Cooper deal was. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s really good He is….but he’s off injured and extremely inconsistent from my viewing experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I'm curious what Davante Adams gets now. I know the current speculation is that he'll get tagged, but if they work out a long-term deal, maybe that contract will be a good indicator for what to expect w/any sort of Diggs restructure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Crazy, hes always been hyped up every year but he's never lived up to it once, but he's getting paid like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Diggs then what, 24M per? It's gotta be significantly more as yes, Williams took a big step forward this season, it's taken him a while to get to this level and he's inconsistent. Diggs is ultra reliable in both consistency on the field and game day availability, where as Williams has been a bit injury prone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Hence why I’ve been saying no way Kirk comes here, he’s gonna get paid in this market. His price may have just jumped to $14m per now. $20m for an inconsistent and oft injured WR is crazy to me. It’s as bad as the Cooper deal was. Really depends on the structure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Really depends on the structure. Yeah I guess thats a fair point, just a lot for him IMHO opinion. That's paying for what he should be more than what hes been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 For 20 mil, I should be able to build my offense around you. He’s just not reliable enough 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yeah I guess thats a fair point, just a lot for him IMHO opinion. That's paying for what he should be more than what hes been. When you have a borderline elite QB with 3 years left on a rookie deal... that is the time to overpay for guys. Especially weapons on offense. I suspect when you look at the guarantees and the structure it is more like 2 years $17-18m per which slots him in around Tyler Lockett (a good #2 same as Williams), Kenny Golladay (a talented guy who struggles staying healthy same as Williams) and Allen Robinson (who Williams is better than). If they are genuinely tied into 3 years and $60m I do think it is a bit of an overpayment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: Diggs then what, 24M per? It's gotta be significantly more as yes, Williams took a big step forward this season, it's taken him a while to get to this level and he's inconsistent. Diggs is ultra reliable in both consistency on the field and game day availability, where as Williams has been a bit injury prone. Diggs is also a huge leader in the lockeroom and a pleasure anywhere off or on the field. He’s a little Super Man! Here he comes to save the day! Mighty Diggs is on his way! He really is… Just a pleasure to have him. I like him more than Robert Woods….and that’s a lot. He makes my all-time Bills team already. Of course, Ralph Wilson let about five great WRs go in the late 60s - seventies…. And Jerry Butler just could not stay healthy. But none of them were so integrated in Buffalo like Diggs is now. I don’t want to pay him because we don’t have the money but if anybody deserves a raise in Buffalo it’s him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: When you have a borderline elite QB with 3 years left on a rookie deal... that is the time to overpay for guys. Especially weapons on offense. I suspect when you look at the guarantees and the structure it is more like 2 years $17-18m per which slots him in around Tyler Lockett (a good #2 same as Williams), Kenny Golladay (a talented guy who struggles staying healthy same as Williams) and Allen Robinson (who Williams is better than). If they are genuinely tied into 3 years and $60m I do think it is a bit of an overpayment. All fair counter points, and pretty much agree with everything you said here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: 3 years 60M Lol. What a joke. Way to screw up the market even more. Chargers are paying Allen and Williams 20M aav. Wait...what?? C'mon man. That dude is nowhere near worth that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Hence why I’ve been saying no way Kirk comes here, he’s gonna get paid in this market. His price may have just jumped to $14m per now. $20m for an inconsistent and oft injured WR is crazy to me. It’s as bad as the Cooper deal was. Can't break up that duo, particularly while Herbert is still on his rookie deal. 76 rec 1146 yards while injured. I think the tag is $18 million (*It's $20 million*) on receivers now. What were they to do? Edited March 8, 2022 by Chicken Boo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s really good When did really good start getting paid as elite? Teams are handing out contracts like they are Pez again. Edited March 8, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 he's average alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: Diggs then what, 24M per? It's gotta be significantly more as yes, Williams took a big step forward this season, it's taken him a while to get to this level and he's inconsistent. Diggs is ultra reliable in both consistency on the field and game day availability, where as Williams has been a bit injury prone. Ya and diggs hasn't gotten immature like Murray and other diva WRs that want more money. Diggs deserves more money but hasn't been chirping about it. Shows he wants to win championships not contracts. I think it would behoove the bills to draft a WR as soon as possible and get him learning work ethic and team first attitude from Diggs, it would make a contract with Diggs even more of a team investment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 So its not just a Raiders thing anymore (screwing up the market for everyone else) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Who were the huge Williams’ DT’s we had many moons ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Receiver market is crazy. I think we should sign a guy coming off an injury or down year on a prove-it deal. Then, draft a wr in the 1st or 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: When did really good start getting paid as elite? Teams are handing out contracts like they are Pez again. Every single year in free agency. Good players get paid like elite players. Average players get paid like good players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Won't be surprised to see Diggs new deal be north of $25M+ per year. Also Beasely probably was asked to take a pay cut and declined which means his release is imminent but probably can still get at least $7M on a one year deal elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mama Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Apocalypse Nuts said: Who were the huge Williams’ DT’s we had many moons ago? Pat Williams and Kyle Williams both all pro 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: When did really good start getting paid as elite? Teams are handing out contracts like they are Pez again. All the more reason to draft better than the other guys. “Buying” the biggest names and best players only works for so long if you don’t have a lot of cheap young talent coming in. Invest is scouting, evaluation and development. A guy like Gabe Davis will be paid one day, but until then he’s been an insane steal for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Joe Mama said: Pat Williams and Kyle Williams both all pro Mario Williams had a few good seasons. Edited March 9, 2022 by The Jokeman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: When you have a borderline elite QB with 3 years left on a rookie deal... that is the time to overpay for guys. Especially weapons on offense. I suspect when you look at the guarantees and the structure it is more like 2 years $17-18m per which slots him in around Tyler Lockett (a good #2 same as Williams), Kenny Golladay (a talented guy who struggles staying healthy same as Williams) and Allen Robinson (who Williams is better than). If they are genuinely tied into 3 years and $60m I do think it is a bit of an overpayment. I forgot about their situation with having a “cheap” QB. That definitely makes this more palatable. With the success rate of young WRs as high as ever, it seems like a tough pill to swallow to pay #2 so much. Young QB on a rookie deal, however. Consistency is worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 18 hours ago, Joe Mama said: Pat Williams and Kyle Williams both all pro Karlos Williams had a great season for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mama Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, RyanC883 said: Karlos Williams had a great season for us. Yes and they paid him in cheeseburgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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