Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Thought it might be fun to put out some scenarios that would make AFC more competitive than it already is. Rodgers to Denver doesn't worry me much. Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh or Cleveland would really upset the AFC. Adding a top 5 QB to either team would make them legit SB contenders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Deshaun Watson to Miami. I am not a Tua fan. Rodgers would be ill advised to join the QB heavy AFC imo, as would Wilson. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Deshaun might never play again... he already missed an entire year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Thought it might be fun to put out some scenarios that would make AFC more competitive than it already is. Rodgers to Denver doesn't worry me much. Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh or Cleveland would really upset the AFC. Adding a top 5 QB to either team would make them legit SB contenders. That move alone is basically a West Domination for the next 4-5 seasons. Not sure another move comes close to Rodgers in Denver. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 The Broncos have a top 5 defense and Rodgers is the best QB in football. If that move happened they could make run at run at the Chiefs for the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Deshaun Watson to Indianapolis, a very solid team that outdid its QB's capabilities this year. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: That move alone is basically a West Domination for the next 4-5 seasons. Not sure another move comes close to Rodgers in Denver. Not much impact on the Bills though. Denver will have to slug it out every year with KC, LA and Vegas, the "weak" one would be Vegas. KC has Hackett, picks and plenty of $ so who knows as well as owner uncertainty. Rodgers would be taking a massive gamble there. I would almost welcome Rodgers to Denver as a Bills fan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, gobills404 said: The Broncos have a top 5 defense and Rodgers is the best QB in football. If that move happened they could make run at run at the Chiefs for the division. But that would help the Bills IMO. Making the AFC West a gauntlet for Mahomes where he has to get past Herbert x2, Rodgers x2 and where the two "easy" games are against Derek Carr who has already beaten him and is a good Quarterback in his own right helps the Bills. Because I would take our chances against anyone else in the post season. I think the Bills and the Chiefs were two two best teams in football by the end of last year. The real Superbowl took place in the AFC Divisional Round. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, GunnerBill said: But that would help the Bills IMO. Making the AFC West a gauntlet for Mahomes where he has to get past Herbert x2, Rodgers x2 and where the two "easy" games are against Derek Carr who has already beaten him and is a good Quarterback in his own right helps the Bills. Because I would take our chances against anyone else in the post season. I think the Bills and the Chiefs were two two best teams in football by the end of last year. The real Superbowl took place in the AFC Divisional Round. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: That move alone is basically a West Domination for the next 4-5 seasons. Not sure another move comes close to Rodgers in Denver. Rodgers won't play that long. Plus Denver even with Rodgers is not as good of a team as KC and Chargers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Thought it might be fun to put out some scenarios that would make AFC more competitive than it already is. Rodgers to Denver doesn't worry me much. Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh or Cleveland would really upset the AFC. Adding a top 5 QB to either team would make them legit SB contenders. We're still pretending Russ Wilson is a to 5 QB? Cool. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Not much impact on the Bills though. Denver will have to slug it out every year with KC, LA and Vegas, the "weak" one would be Vegas. KC has Hackett, picks and plenty of $ so who knows as well as owner uncertainty. Rodgers would be taking a massive gamble there. I would almost welcome Rodgers to Denver as a Bills fan. what’s most concerning … is in a Bills v Broncos matchup with Rodgers… It’s Leslie Fraizer v Aaron Rodgers I mean…Aaron Rodgers could go to the HOF alone based on his numbers against Leslie Fraizer Defenses. but your right … Broncos would have to slug it out against Chiefs and Chargers…not sure that is the worst thing in the world for any of those teams. You might want to play harder teams that would make you better than skating thru the regular season on cupcake schedules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: what’s most concerning … is in a Bills v Broncos matchup with Rodgers… It’s Leslie Fraizer v Aaron Rodgers I mean…Aaron Rodgers could go to the HOF alone based on his numbers against Leslie Fraizer Defenses. but your right … Broncos would have to slug it out against Chiefs and Chargers…not sure that is the worst thing in the world for any of those teams. You might want to play harder teams that would make you better than skating thru the regular season on cupcake schedules. Plus it will likely cost Denver dearly in terms of Draft picks and $. Also it looks like a short term fix for Denver, we all obsess about the longevity of Brady but realistically Rodgers might have only a few years left. Then Denver would have to deal with the never ending drama queen Rodgers. I would welcome an AFC matchup of Denver+Rodgers versus the Bills. Edited February 25, 2022 by RoyBatty is alive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) Rodgers to the Broncos. Best 2-headed monster in football (Gordon and Williams) and an extremely underrated WR trio (Sutton, Patrick, Jeudy). Adding Aaron to that mix, I can do without. Edited February 25, 2022 by Chicken Boo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Chad Kelly leaves Toronto, heads to the LA Chargers as a backup. Picks up pocket money playing bad guys in crime dramas. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Tom Brady going to the Jets…, no, not really, 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 42 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Thought it might be fun to put out some scenarios that would make AFC more competitive than it already is. Rodgers to Denver doesn't worry me much. Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh or Cleveland would really upset the AFC. Adding a top 5 QB to either team would make them legit SB contenders. Full disclosure: I am not convinced that either Wilson or Rodgers changes teams this year. I think with Wilson, he most likely stays in Seattle and the odds of him leaving are slim. With Rodgers, he obviously has a higher chance to be on the move, but if I had to put odds on it, I would probably say its probably 60-40 he stays in GB right now. But lets assume they do both leave...I am not that worried about Rodgers in Denver either, I mean I don't see Denver really as an upgrade for him, and one could argue its a down grade situation, especially given the heavy hitters in his own division with Mahomes and Herbert there. And I don't fear Rodgers in the post season either. Russell would be more concerning in Pitt than Cle IMHO, I just don't think he makes the same impact in Cle given their receiving options are underwhelming and they are run first team. But even if he landed in Pitt, I don't know he brings much more to the table than what Big Ben was doing for several years prior to his 2019 injury that cost him most the season. And Pitt arguably had a better roster back then with prime Antonio Brown and stuff too, but still weren't a SB team. While Wilson is still a very good QB, I don't see him in that top tier which he was in for a while. The guy I am MOST worried about is Watson. He is IMHO is legitimately in the same tier as Mahomes and Allen. Rodgers is obviously elite, but he wont be around as long. If Watson lands with an AFC foe, he will be trouble for a long time along side the other young AFC stud QB's like Mahomes, Herbert, possibly Burrow (he isn't on their level yet). And I expect Watson to be back this year on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 The Dolphins getting any kind of franchise qb will make the division less of a cakewalk. They actually have a pretty decent roster with a lot of young talent and could become an instant contender. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 Not to detail my own thread, but really curious why people don't feel Wilson is a top 5 QB? He was hurt, had no running game, and a terrible oline last year. I would put Allen, Mahommes, Rodgers, and Herbert ahead of him. I would take Wilson over Burrow, Dak, Tannyhill, Stafford, Murray, Ryan, Jackson, Carr, or anyone else. I can see an argument for Burrow but really can't see how Wilson would be ranked behind any other QBs in the league. 12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Full disclosure: I am not convinced that either Wilson or Rodgers changes teams this year. I think with Wilson, he most likely stays in Seattle and the odds of him leaving are slim. With Rodgers, he obviously has a higher chance to be on the move, but if I had to put odds on it, I would probably say its probably 60-40 he stays in GB right now. But lets assume they do both leave...I am not that worried about Rodgers in Denver either, I mean I don't see Denver really as an upgrade for him, and one could argue its a down grade situation, especially given the heavy hitters in his own division with Mahomes and Herbert there. And I don't fear Rodgers in the post season either. Russell would be more concerning in Pitt than Cle IMHO, I just don't think he makes the same impact in Cle given their receiving options are underwhelming and they are run first team. But even if he landed in Pitt, I don't know he brings much more to the table than what Big Ben was doing for several years prior to his 2019 injury that cost him most the season. And Pitt arguably had a better roster back then with prime Antonio Brown and stuff too, but still weren't a SB team. While Wilson is still a very good QB, I don't see him in that top tier which he was in for a while. The guy I am MOST worried about is Watson. He is IMHO is legitimately in the same tier as Mahomes and Allen. Rodgers is obviously elite, but he wont be around as long. If Watson lands with an AFC foe, he will be trouble for a long time along side the other young AFC stud QB's like Mahomes, Herbert, possibly Burrow (he isn't on their level yet). And I expect Watson to be back this year on the field. Cleveland's defense and run game can be elite. The same situation Wilson had early in Seattle. I agree they need to add a WR that can get deep but they really are only good QB play away from being an AFC conference game contender. Pittsburgh has a few more holes than Cleveland but they have elite players at all three levels of the defense and a great RB. If they bring back Juju and fix the oline they will be a very tough team if they had a competent QB. Roethlisberger was terrible for the last 25 games of his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) Watson to any of our three division opponents. I want him traded to the NFC now. I’m more than happy to play Mac, Tua, and Zach Wilson twice a year. Edited February 25, 2022 by Doc Brown 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Tennessee getting a franchise QB 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Watson to any of our three division opponents. I want him traded to the NFC now. I’m more than happy to play Mac, Tua, and Zach Wilson twice a year. We have Josh Allen. I fear no other QB and I don't care what team they are on. Brady could go back to the Pats and I wouldn't give a ****. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Watson in our division would be bad news for sure, but as his legal woes are in limbo, so are his odds of playing this up coming season. He has already missed one full season, and with a fairly strong chance of missing an additional season/s should his legal issue be decided against him, the league will have there hand forced to side line him in some fashion or another. I see him as having an outside chance to see the field over the next two seasons. Of course I could be talking out my - - - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: We're still pretending Russ Wilson is a to 5 QB? Cool. Right? Dude hasn’t been the same since the Bills walloped them last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, gobills404 said: The Broncos have a top 5 defense and Rodgers is the best QB in football. If that move happened they could make run at run at the Chiefs for the division. Where was Rogers in the playoffs this year? He showed absolutely nothing special the entire game and lost. Rogers is over, Josh Allen is the reigning king of the NFL now. Super Bowl or no Super Bowl but a Super Bowl is coming…. Rogers never played as well as Allen did during this end of season and the playoffs this year. Allen was spectacular in 2020 as well…. Be a Bills fan and trust your eyes…. Allen is #1! Go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Right? Dude hasn’t been the same since the Bills walloped them last year Honestly, dude hasn't been the same since the Legion of Boom days. There's really a reason they don't Let Russ Cook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 The only thing I "fear" is McBeane not prioritizing getting weapons for Allen. When you have the best QB in the league there is not much else you need to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Thought it might be fun to put out some scenarios that would make AFC more competitive than it already is. Rodgers to Denver doesn't worry me much. Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh or Cleveland would really upset the AFC. Adding a top 5 QB to either team would make them legit SB contenders. Why does Rodgers to Denver not scare you? Denver is stacked except for QB. Perhaps it’s because Denver plays KC and Chargers? I feel like if Rodgers goes to Denver they are Super Bowl contenders easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tanoros said: Why does Rodgers to Denver not scare you? Denver is stacked except for QB. Perhaps it’s because Denver plays KC and Chargers? I feel like if Rodgers goes to Denver they are Super Bowl contenders easily. I would agree. Also, it has been speculated that Rodgers going to Denver is the one thing that would knock the Bills out of playing the Rams in the Season Opener. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 59 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Not to detail my own thread, but really curious why people don't feel Wilson is a top 5 QB? He was hurt, had no running game, and a terrible oline last year. I would put Allen, Mahommes, Rodgers, and Herbert ahead of him. I would take Wilson over Burrow, Dak, Tannyhill, Stafford, Murray, Ryan, Jackson, Carr, or anyone else. I can see an argument for Burrow but really can't see how Wilson would be ranked behind any other QBs in the league. Cleveland's defense and run game can be elite. The same situation Wilson had early in Seattle. I agree they need to add a WR that can get deep but they really are only good QB play away from being an AFC conference game contender. Pittsburgh has a few more holes than Cleveland but they have elite players at all three levels of the defense and a great RB. If they bring back Juju and fix the oline they will be a very tough team if they had a competent QB. Roethlisberger was terrible for the last 25 games of his career. I’m with you in Wilson. Either Wilson or Burros is number 5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Most Bills fans won’t think they are a “threat” due to the head to head games being so lopsided. But the Dolphins…they really aren’t that far back off buffalo when you look at overall standings finished 3 games back in 2020 finished 2 games back in 2021 Now if dolphins bring in say Adams, Ridley, Goodwin via trade, free agency…and get a split with Buffalo… They are right there for division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 I don't like the idea of KC getting McCaffrey. Makes them superbowl favorites in my book. PS - I know McC is technically not a FA, but a lot of chatter that he can be had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GoBills808 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Rodgers won't play that long. Plus Denver even with Rodgers is not as good of a team as KC and Chargers. Denver w Rodgers might be the best team in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Denver w Rodgers might be the best team in the league Colts with Rodgers would be more dangerous. Imagine that running game and defense with a competent QB. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Most Bills fans won’t think they are a “threat” due to the head to head games being so lopsided. But the Dolphins…they really aren’t that far back off buffalo when you look at overall standings finished 3 games back in 2020 finished 2 games back in 2021 Now if dolphins bring in say Adams, Ridley, Goodwin via trade, free agency…and get a split with Buffalo… They are right there for division. With all the turmoil going with ownership they seem more like a franchise that will head south in the standings then challenge the Bills. New coaching staff coming in with new systems and schemes to learn. Plus you still have Tua as your QB. I think NE is still the biggest threat to the Bills in the division even with noodle arm at QB. 1 minute ago, Rigotz said: Colts with Rodgers would be more dangerous. Imagine that running game and defense with a competent QB. When its all said and done I still think Rodgers stays with GB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Rigotz said: Colts with Rodgers would be more dangerous. Imagine that running game and defense with a competent QB. Top to bottom I think the Broncos have a better roster but the Colts would be another scary team no doubt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Sorry but it Bengals obtaining two quality OL. That would scare me more than anything because Chase, Higgins and Boyd with a competent OL will be a handful. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 An unlikely, but nightmare scenario would be KC trading future picks for another stud WR, then using their picks and $11M for more O-Line and D-Line. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Any high end QB, of which there are 3 (rumored to be possibly on the move): Aaron Rodgers DeShaun Watson Russell Wilson Coming to the AFC, or more specifically into the AFC East would change the math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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