Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Since Ryan Bates has playing guard the Oline has been a revelation. Is not as big of a priority that we thought most of the season? (Also what's with the Rick Bates story?) 6 7 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Since Ryan Bates has playing guard the Oline has been a revelation. Is not as big of a priority that we thought most of the season? (Also what's with the Rick Bates story?) i was going to post something similar. It’s not just the interior play either— both tackles have been playing so much better also. I think you have scheme and talent and execution coming together at the same time. (Don’t think they had a single penalty on them either). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Hell ya with McKenzie back on the mix totally different 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: i was going to post something similar. It’s not just the interior play either— both tackles have been playing so much better also. I think you have scheme and talent and execution coming together at the same time. (Don’t think they had a single penalty on them either). Makes me wonder if they changed the style of play for the line too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) I think they keep Williams and make the move to RG permanent and they tender Bates at the lowest level (right of first refusal, ~$2.4M). The big question is whether Morse retires, as someone has suggested he might. If he does, they need to find a new center. If not, bring him back. Edited January 16, 2022 by Doc 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Since Ryan Bates has playing guard the Oline has been a revelation. Is not as big of a priority that we thought most of the season? (Also what's with the Rick Bates story?) Always build the OL but Bates is just a great fit. It's not shocking to me that he's playing well, he always looked the part when he played. The biggest thing with OL right now is movement. They all move well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Since Ryan Bates has playing guard the Oline has been a revelation. Is not as big of a priority that we thought most of the season? (Also what's with the Rick Bates story?) https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2021/12/just-call-him-rick-bills-ryan-bates-creating-buzz-having-time-of-his-life.html Quote Shortly after Ryan Bates was traded to the Buffalo Bills from the Philadelphia Eagles back in 2019, Nate Becker - a tight end who spent a few seasons on their practice squad - started calling him Rick. Nobody really knows the origin of the name. Becker never really explained it to anybody. Bates, a generally agreeable fellow, never protested. Dawson Knox guesses it’s because Bates looks like a Rick. There is probably also a play where he is lined as a extra blocker not guard and when Josh says "Rick! Rick! Rick!" he knows it is a play for him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Josh had so much time in the pocket. He looked like Jim Kelly against Cleveland in 1989 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Makes me wonder if they changed the style of play for the line too ? Yes they definitely changed up scheme. Protections have changed and run blocking schemes have changed. A lot more movement. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Makes me wonder if they changed the style of play for the line too ? Sounds like they switched the OL blocking scheme. Singletary has looked fantastic. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Morse played out of his mind tonight. 10 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Sounds like they switched the OL blocking scheme. Singletary has looked fantastic. You would think they would have figured this out sooner. 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Yes they definitely changed up scheme. Protections have changed and run blocking schemes have changed. A lot more movement. Im not familiar with the technical details of offense line play or blocking schemes, but i like what they are doing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 Love when they put Doyle in for extra blockers too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 See the young man Spencer out there going through Pats defenders like a Buffalo snow plough? Priceless 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 OL needs a nickname. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Love when they put Doyle in for extra blockers too. that has been a revelation. We have been so much better on short yardage situations with that package. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 24 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Since Ryan Bates has playing guard the Oline has been a revelation. Is not as big of a priority that we thought most of the season? (Also what's with the Rick Bates story?) He looks like a Rick, so they call him Rick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Bates has certainly helped but I think the Oline finally has been consistent. They had been shuffling around all season. Ford got swapped out and Mongo got hurt then Spencer Brown got hurt and Covid. Dawkins also missed a game or two. They finally have their best 5 out there and playing together. I always thought D Williams and Brown on the right side were good and Dawkins and Mitch quality players. So they just needed to play those 4 together and find someone at least decent at left guard. With Bates they found that left guard and the Oline has played better with a level of consistency. Assuming this team plays KC next week we will see how well the Oline can handle Jones on the interior. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 49 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Makes me wonder if they changed the style of play for the line too ? Thank god Dabol is pulling lineman so much more these last 4 weeks. Bates has been great and Brown/Dawkins were monsters tonight. The whole OL was amazing and deserves major props. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 59 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Since Ryan Bates has playing guard the Oline has been a revelation. Is not as big of a priority that we thought most of the season? (Also what's with the Rick Bates story?) Having Tommy Doyle next to Spencer Brown and Darryl Williams in those extra OL sets doesn’t hurt either! But yes, Bates is awesome. I would argue that he is a better player than Feliciano and Boettger 100%. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 They found the right mix of players, but they're doing different things schematically as well. After that game where McDermott complained about the running game.. they changed up the style they play and it's been much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: OL needs a nickname. good grief, why does everything need a nickname. The defense, the oline... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Maybe they've been saving this for the playoffs? 4D chess, ya know? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Since Ryan Bates has playing guard the Oline has been a revelation. Is not as big of a priority that we thought most of the season? (Also what's with the Rick Bates story?) I was thinking that during the game. Would be nice if we didn't need to spend a lot a capital on the line. Still pick mid rounders and develop but maybe no pressing need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I’m focused on next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: I was thinking that during the game. Would be nice if we didn't need to spend a lot a capital on the line. Still pick mid rounders and develop but maybe no pressing need. I'd do like they did this year and take mid-round athletic freaks at OG/C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 hours ago, klos63 said: good grief, why does everything need a nickname. The defense, the oline... I know. It was more or less a joke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Watching some of the game back. Bates was amazing. Morse was amazing. Bates has changed the OL though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I liked the plays where they used 3 pulling linemen with Josh or Motor running off tackle. All those big bodies moving at speed reminded me of a herd of buffalos running down and trampling everything in their path. Thundering Herd. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: I liked the plays where they used 3 pulling linemen with Josh or Motor running off tackle. All those big bodies moving at speed reminded me of a herd of buffalos running down and trampling everything in their path. Thundering Herd. Morse, Bates, and Brown. So much agility and the coaches found ways to use it. The 3rd and 3 QB power run was amazing to watch. Bates sets it up by reaching the DT and stones him. Unbelievable block. Then Morse and Brown get out in space and do their thing. There were so many plays like this. Edited January 16, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I never thought they were as bad as they appeared to be. This OL was great in pass pro last year and we are finally seeing that again. They also can run block when they decide to. Not sure what changed but I don think it is just Bates....I think it was some scheme, some attitude, some getting healthy and some finding the right 5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I did a search but couldn't find this stat I heard just now anywhere here: Josh Allen HAS NOT BEEN SACKED IN THE LAST FIVE GAMES 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: (Also what's with the Rick Bates story?) He is a master blocker 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, mattynh said: I never thought they were as bad as they appeared to be. This OL was great in pass pro last year and we are finally seeing that again. They also can run block when they decide to. Not sure what changed but I don think it is just Bates....I think it was some scheme, some attitude, some getting healthy and some finding the right 5. They've changed their scheming. A lot more movement stuff with the group they have now, specifically Morse, Bates, and Brown. Dawkins back to himself obviously helped also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 hours ago, mattynh said: I never thought they were as bad as they appeared to be. This OL was great in pass pro last year and we are finally seeing that again. They also can run block when they decide to. Not sure what changed but I don think it is just Bates....I think it was some scheme, some attitude, some getting healthy and some finding the right 5. I remember thinking they were just fine last year. That's why I found it hard to second guess McBean's attention to the unit in the off-season. Was hard to believe they became such a liability midseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Up until the last 4 weeks of the season I was all for spending a ton of draft and FA capital at the OL. Now, I'm not so sure about that... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 10 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Morse played out of his mind tonight. Some new energy after the brith of his son Deacon. Go Bills ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) OL has found themselves - and as others have pointed out - they’re finally healthy, figured out the scheme fit, settled on their best 5 and guys are playing more to their potential. Josh Allen’s elusiveness also helps. However, he also extends plays which makes it tougher for them. Probably offsets each other. That said.. this Offense is unstoppable when Josh Allen has time. I’m still focusing on bringing in a stud interior player in the off-season (in addition to keeping this starting five together if Morse wants to come back). I think we can all agree Singletary is legit now that he’s been given the chance to prove himself as the lead back. Perhaps use that 2nd Round Pick people were projecting as a RB, and use that on a G/C. Edited January 16, 2022 by SCBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: OL has found themselves, and as others have pointed out, they’re finally healthy, settled on their best 5 and guys are playing more to their potential. Josh Allen’s elusiveness also helps. However, he also extends plays which makes it tougher for them. Probably offsets each other. That said.. this Offense is unstoppable when Josh Allen has time. I’m still focusing on bringing in a stud interior player in the off-season (in addition to keeping this starting five together if Morse wants to come back). I think we can all agree Singletary is legit now that he’s been given the chance to prove himself as the lead back. Perhaps use that 2nd Round Pick people were projecting as a RB, and use that on a G/C. Can they afford it though? I think the best we can hope for is tendering Bates to keep him around for at least another year, hoping Morse continues playing, and drafting an OG/OC somewhere early-ish in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, Doc said: Can they afford it though? I think the best we can hope for is tendering Bates to keep him around for at least another year, hoping Morse continues playing, and drafting an OG/OC somewhere early-ish in the draft. I meant through the draft. That 2nd Round Pick people were banging on the table for a RB would probably be much better used on IOL. I think this off-season is probably much like last… just re-signing our own guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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