Anyone else worried about daboll heading into the playoffs?

[716er]

More worried about the team executing properly the plays Daboll calls.

[without a drought]

Don't Worry, Be Happy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's the fn' playoffs.

 

 

[CaptnCoke11]

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Not as worried I am as about losing all of our coordinators and top FO guys within the next few weeks. 

Usually what happens to good teams 

[Nihilarian]

1 hour ago, Bob in STL said:

Woeful offense?  Didn’t we lead the league in points?  Aren’t we in the top six in yards both passing and running?  
 

You want to worry about things out of your control?  Worry about punting and catching punts. 

Three words...Six to Nine!

 

There was a point in this season in which it was noted that McD was talking about his OC the very same way he talked about Rick Dennison in the 2017 season.

 

The Bills lost to the Jags 6-9, were blown out by the Colts 15-41 and lost to the Patriots at home in a windstorm to an offense that only threw 3 passes, 10-14!

 

Mostly because this OC kept getting caught up in throwing the ball all game... instead of what it will take to exploit the team/defense he is facing.

 

Keep passing and when that doesn't work...keep passing.

 

It's also been noted that this OC has finally started using the RBs in the run game more and it's been somewhat successful. Suddenly, we Bills fans are no longer claiming we need a better O line, need a better lead RB. If this were happening all season... then this thread would have no merit.

 

 

Look at this recent Jets game!

The Buffalo offense was stumbling big time for a lot of that game and this was against a 4-12 team with the 32nd ranked defense, 30th in passing yards allowed. WTH!

 

At times this OC doesn't see what's working and what isn't working. WR Gabe Davis against the Jets, 14 targets, 3 receptions for 39 yards.

 

Yes, the Bills finally scored 14 points in the 4th quarter to put some distance to win 27-10. This was a very close game for quite a awhile and it took a historically dominant defensive game play to keep the Bills in this game.

 

Buffalo Bills defense, NINE sacks on the Jets rookie QB Wilson, who went 7 of 20 for 87 yards all game. The Jets run game went 17 rushes for 48 yards.

Because of those 9 Buffalo sacks the Jets only had 5 net passing yards all game!  53 total yards of offense by the Jets! 

 

Bills fans should be worried about this OC and if he has the proper game plan to beat the Patriots. 

 

Ya know what is funny / odd? You don't hear much about Brian Daboll's name being bandied about as a new HC hire when so many teams are looking. Just think, GB OC Nathanial Hackett is generating more interest...

[QLBillsFan]

Why is your font growing? Our OC is fine. It’s been exceptionally windy. OL has been lacking healthy best 5. We have now at least a resemblance of a running game. More up BD’s sleeve for playoffs. 

[NewEra]

11 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Usually what happens to good teams 

Yup.  Doesn’t make it any better for us.  One more reason why we have to get it done this year.  We know what we have in our coaches and they seem to be “good enough” to win a SB imo.  The replacements may not be.  Coordinator hires are extreeeeeeemely important 

[Nextmanup]

My worry is much more about Josh Allen in that we need him to be his best EVERY GAME HERE ON OUT.

 

If Josh has a "really good game" let's say, we should beat everyone we play.

 

If/when Josh has a letdown game, we'll be out.

 

We will go as far as he can take us.

 

Let's hope he strings together one of his best stretches of his career, starting Saturday.

 

 

[Success]

I don't not worry. It's hard for me to pinpoint the specifics.

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

TBH it’s been more execution than idiot play calls these past few games 

[Sweats]

Unfortunately, this team will live and die with Dabolls decisions.

[Rocky Landing]

Not only did we throw a bomb into the end zone on 3rd and short, we had deep go routes on both sides of the field. It was troubling to see that much commitment to a low percentage play on third and short.
 

But… it was the Jets.
 

For the most part, I was satisfied with the play-calling, and the play-calling from the previous week vs. the Falcons, as well. In fact, it could be argued that play-calling saved the Falcons game. 

[SactoBillFan]

Not the offense itself. I always worry about offensive turnovers. That's usually the determinant.

[Big Turk]

12 minutes ago, Sweats said:

Unfortunately, this team will live and die with Dabolls decisions.

 

No they will love and die with their execution of the plays. 

 

Execution is far far far more important than play calls most of the time.

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

With one of the more potent NFL offense, and arguably best QB in the league… if that’s the case you shouldn’t be worried about turning the ball over on downs and letting your defense shut them down. Just my opinion, but I would’ve loved to see some aggressiveness there.

 

There is a time and place to take risks and there was no need to.

 

Risk-reward wasn't great there to be honest.

[flmike]

2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

I'm worried and very concerned right now about a lot of things and it would be so Billsy for this team to exit the playoffs early with a top defense not being able to compensate for a woeful offense which just one year again it was the exact opposite.

 

Just hope this entire coaching staff understands that any chance we have of making a serious run is an aggressive gameplan that doesn't involve wasting carries on Zack Moss and other gimmicky gadget crap that can lead to turnovers and big loss of yardage.

 

Let Allen be who he was against the Pats a few weeks ago and feed singletary exclusively.

Moss did well yesterday. He is a strong back. 

[Rocky Landing]

There is a certain  point during a game when teams will abandon the run game, and start passing like mad. Over the last few seasons, I have felt like the Bills (given their talent at QB, and lack thereof in the run game) have gone into that mode too early. It has smacked of desperation, looked like panic, and stymied momentum. 
 

But I kinda feel like Daboll has gotten over that in the latter part of this season. As other teams have figured out our spread offense, there has been an assumption on the part of opposing defenses that Allen, if playing from behind in the fourth, or even late third, would start slinging it like a drunken Ryan Fitzpatrick on speed. 
 

But that hasn’t been the case. Opposing defenses have, in the last half of the season overplayed their hands when they thought they might have Allen close to the ropes. And when they have, Motor has burned them. 
 

if I have any reservations this season, in regards to play calling, it is that it seems to be an endless work-in-progress. But as long as we’re moving in the right direction, that is a mild criticism. 

Edited January 11, 2022 by Rocky Landing

[SinceThe70s]

3 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Do you suppose he's getting enough fiber in his diet? 

 

Daboll or OP?

[Straight Hucklebuck]

3 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

He also punted on 4th and 1 after acting like he was going to go for it and then wasted a TO when the play clock got down to one instead of just taking the 5 yard penalty and then punt…. His aggressiveness was awesome against the Patriots… but I feel he’ll go back to his conservative roots when the game isn’t going their way…. And Hyde sucked back there. 

The Hyde thing reeks of 2017 and 2018 McDermott.

 

No chance of any return, coaching safe and scared of the Jets. 

I have no idea why they do that on 4th and 1, and you’re right, you then burn a timeout on top of it to save 5-yards of field position.

 

That’s Dick Jauron stuff there, hoping other team makes mistakes. 

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

Belichik obviously knows Daboll well from their time together in NE.

 

Obviously the gameplan was excellent a few weeks ago but it took probably Allen's best game of his career to pull that out and overcome the late surge from Mac Jones and the Pats offense. The chances of Allen having that type of game again are the same as the Pats winning with their QB only throwing 3 passes like the first match.

 

Either way I've always hate division game matchups in the playoffs because you can throw out the regular season and there have been many instances of teams getting swept by a division rival in the regular season only to win the 3rd matchup in the playoffs (TB/Brady were the last to do it against the Saints in the playoffs last year).

 

 

 

Don't overthink it. We have the better QB by a mile. That's what usually wins in the playoffs.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said:

Not only did we throw a bomb into the end zone on 3rd and short, we had deep go routes on both sides of the field. It was troubling to see that much commitment to a low percentage play on third and short.
 

But… it was the Jets.
 

For the most part, I was satisfied with the play-calling, and the play-calling from the previous week vs. the Falcons, as well. In fact, it could be argued that play-calling saved the Falcons game. 

It’s hard for me to be satisfied when you see the Bills against the Patriots @ New England, and their first drives were masterful, short crisp throws, power runs, Allen designed runs, or the first Jets game, McKenzie involved, Gabe involved, and then to see the same old pattern this past Sunday, running on first down in the Red Zone, trying to draw people Offside, Allen throwing nothing but toe tap routes to the sidelines, no McKenzie, no Knox. 

[BigAl2526]

I'm always concerned about things that can go wrong in upcoming games, including Dabol's play calling and Joh Allen's handling of cold weather and wintry conditions.  I'm hoping that some of what happened in the Jets game amounted to Dabol experimenting with some things and giving their next opponent (which only later turned out to be New England) more things to worry about and prepare for.  I do think all the coaches will up their game for the playoffs, but then so will Belichick and every other team Buffalo might have a chance to face.

[BobbyC81]

5 hours ago, Brennan Huff said:

I know the offense has looked shakey these last couple weeks, but I’m more worried about the run defense. It’s very important that we take the lead early against New England and make them try to throw

I agree and if they win the coin flip, I would take the ball and not  defer.  Take the opportunity to get the lead before they even get the ball 

[popcornpam]

Buffalo needs to Score early and often!   Don’t be afraid to make adjustments during the game. 

Mix it up on Defense too!

Play to Win don’t  play to not lose!

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

No, he calls the plays and the players need to execute them. If we lose it’s because Allen wasn’t good enough. When we get elite Josh Allen nobody can beat us, we need him now!

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

9 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Daboll or OP?

I meant Daboll.  You might be onto something. 🤔

[JMF2006]

So when this offence does anything good its the players?

 

And when they fail to execute its on  Daboll?

 

The defense is good but they have an alarming tendency to giving up huge plays in close games.

 

So its not all wine and roses on that side of the ball either.

 

You win as a team and you lose as a team

 

JMHO

 

[Dopey]

According to Pro Football Reference, we've scored the 3rd most points of ANY team in the league!! 3rd guys, 3rd!

 

What the hell are any of you complaining about?!? What more do you want?!?

 

While I'm at it, we're #1 in points against and won back to back AFCE CHAMPS!

 

IMO,  any complainer(you know who you are) is a dumb@$$!; Again, JMO.

 

Phew, that felt good!

[Nihilarian]

13 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

It’s hard for me to be satisfied when you see the Bills against the Patriots @ New England, and their first drives were masterful, short crisp throws, power runs, Allen designed runs, or the first Jets game, McKenzie involved, Gabe involved, and then to see the same old pattern this past Sunday, running on first down in the Red Zone, trying to draw people Offside, Allen throwing nothing but toe tap routes to the sidelines, no McKenzie, no Knox. 

Going into that Buffalo game the Falcons defense was last in the NFL in sacks and near last against the run, 29th in points allowed, 26th in yards. The NY Jets defense was 32nd in both yards, points allowed.

 

I don't get why the Buffalo offense had so much trouble moving the ball, scoring in the first half of both games against such bad defenses. 

 

I'm hoping the Bills OC was avoiding running his best strategies going into these two garbage teams and holding out his best for the playoffs. 

 

 

[FilthyBeast]

14 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Don't overthink it. We have the better QB by a mile. That's what usually wins in the playoffs.

 

Usually is the key word, but never underestimate this coaching staff and their willingness to keep teams in games and crawl into a shell in big moments.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

4 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

So when this offence does anything good its the players?

 

And when they fail to execute its on  Daboll?

 

The defense is good but they have an alarming tendency to giving up huge plays in close games.

 

So its not all wine and roses on that side of the ball either.

 

You win as a team and you lose as a team

 

JMHO

 

I think this staff has gotten it partly right this year: 

 

They identified Spencer Brown and got him in at RT.

 

They made the switch to Ryan Bates.

 

Tommy Doyle is now in at 6th OLineman and playing real snap count, he adds size.

Benched Zack Moss and made Singletary the primary back.

 

But they are still rigid IMO at WR. Still trotting out Beasley when he’s not effective anymore, at the expense of a younger and more explosive player.

 

And what happens when Sanders gets healthy? Is he right back in there starting? Meaning Gabe Davis is back to 30% snap count?

 

When McKenzie gets one carry for 10 yards, and one catch for 9 yards on 2 touches, I just don’t want to hear how Beasley brings more to the table still. He’s averaging 8 ypc now. It’s over.
 

 

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

19 hours ago, Steptide said:

I think the bills have a super bowl caliber defense that is good enough to win it all, but I fear the offensive side of things. Even yesterday, I was yelling at my TV wondering what daboll was doing. On one of our offensive possessions (I believe the score was 10-7) they went run run pass, which ended in a punt. I also can't for the life of me figure out why daboll runs on 2nd down so much in the red zone. Obviously we won by 17 pts yesterday, and we have a huge margin of victory in our wins this season, but I'm worried what this offense is gonna look like in the playoffs. 

Didn't you post this last year right before the playoffs?