SNF: Cleveland Browns at Baltimore Ravens

[co_springs_billsfan]

1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

 

I was going to say Chad Pennington without the ability to smile. 

Josh McCown with commercials

[Hawaii50]

Hitting the QB to hard calls are tough to take.  At least they were equal between teams.

[The Frankish Reich]

9 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

There are all sorts of African American QB's that play in the same style as a Rogers or Brees.

There's no doubt the bias against black QBs and the bias against running/scrambling QBs were kind of intersecting Venn diagrams for a long time. But not anymore. it may be time to retire that whole talking point.

[SCBills]

Absolutely a TD

[balln]

omg that hit the ground - who the ***** is terry ? these refs the networks get to comment are even mind blowingly clueless - WHICH should tell you how messed up the whole system is

[jkeerie]

4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Better divisional record even though they lost to them.  If Broncos beat Chargers again they'll get the head to head tie breakers.  Confusing.

Correct.  It's because 3 teams in the division have the same record at 6-5.  That negates head to head and so you go to division record.

[Rick 'r Mortis]

No TD

[TheFunPolice]

Hit the ground

You just never know what these calls are going to be

[balln]

prob the right call on the zoomed in views

[GoBills808]

Can’t overturn

[y2zipper]

I didn't think that hit the ground but the whole point of clear and obvious is to go with the field cal when you can't see it.

[benderbender]

This "clear and obvious" thing must be new. Hasn't stopped the eye in the sky from overruling obvious calls

[AlfaBill]

3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

There's no doubt the bias against black QBs and the bias against running/scrambling QBs were kind of intersecting Venn diagrams for a long time. But not anymore. it may be time to retire that whole talking point.

I believe with Lamar they’re very cautious on picking their words. They’re afraid to criticize and I think because he’s black. I just don’t like him as a QB because he’s not very good at that position and they’ll never go deep in the playoffs with him. 

[The Frankish Reich]

2 minutes ago, balln said:

omg that hit the ground - who the ***** is terry ? these refs the networks get to comment are even mind blowingly clueless - WHICH should tell you how messed up the whole system is

I'm glad they actually followed their own damn standard of review.

I think it's 60% likely the ball touched the ground.

"Clear and obvious" ought to mean something more like 80 or 90 percent.

[Rick 'r Mortis]

It's crazy what some people see and what the rest of us actually know happened.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Here’s Collinsworth talking about the inability of someone to ever hit Lamar hard again…..

 

[djp14150]

2 minutes ago, balln said:

omg that hit the ground - who the ***** is terry ? these refs the networks get to comment are even mind blowingly clueless - WHICH should tell you how messed up the whole system is

a ball can hit the ground on a catch if you have control of the ball and it doesn’t jostle when ground is hit and you don’t trap it like if both hands are on top of the ball.  The bertemanuel catch.

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, AlfaBill said:

I believe with Lamar they’re very cautious on picking their words. They’re afraid to criticize and I think because he’s black. I just don’t like him as a QB because he’s not very good at that position and they’ll never go deep in the playoffs with him. 

Well, here we disagree.

I guess Kaepernick, who went to the SB and damn near won it, is the best proof that a run oriented QB can go deep into the playoffs.

[Breakout Squad]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Here’s Collinsworth talking about the inability of someone to ever hit Lamar hard again…..

 

It’s true. They can’t hit him out of fear of a roughing the passer call. It’s a tough job

[Hapless Bills Fan]

C’mon Brownies

 

My god their graphics are tacky tonight

 

[SCBills]

I award Jadaveon Clowney the “Mario Addison, ahh so close” award. 

[Doc Brown]

Geez.  That's some serious shade on the Browns.  LOL.

[97bills]

Lol 

[LeGOATski]

LJ is losing them the game

[AlfaBill]

That’s a shame. 

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

Geez.  That's some serious shade on the Browns.  LOL.

I liked the jester hat.

[mannc]

Awful throw

[Doc Brown]

One more and he'll tie  pass Mike White for most in a game this season.  You can do it Lamar.

Edited November 29, 2021 by Doc Brown

[AlfaBill]

CC saying great int. no. It was a terrible pass. 

[Breakout Squad]

Lamar just lofts the ball up there and acts surprised it was intercepted. He’s just not that good

[LeGOATski]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

One more and he'll tie Mike White for most in a game this season.  You can do it Lamar.

Both first round picks....

 

... or should've been, anyway.

[AlfaBill]

Nathan peterman?

[Putin]

That’s what happens when you let running back keep throwing the ball 

[Ralonzo]

Unanimous MVP*

 

* Most Viable Peterman

[Doc Brown]

Just now, LeGOATski said:

Both first round picks....

 

... or should've been, anyway.

Oh wait.  White only threw four.  NM.  He can beat the record.

[Mojo44]

I can’t tell you how much scotch I’ve had to drink just to keep watching this game!

[LeGOATski]

Lol, Andrews scooped it in for the DB.

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

There's no doubt the bias against black QBs and the bias against running/scrambling QBs were kind of intersecting Venn diagrams for a long time. But not anymore. it may be time to retire that whole talking point.

Agreed.  It seemed bizarre that they brought it up. 

 

The question about Jackson isn't really aimed at Jackson, it's about whether the Roman offense can work in the long run. Jackson represents the best overall QB from a passing and rushing perspective that Roman has ever had. If his offense can't get over the playoff hump with Jackson at QB then it indicates to me that Romans offense won't work in the NFL. 

 

And in contrast to Collinsworth blathering's, NO ONE in the NFL is looking for a Tom Brady clone. That time has come and gone.  Brady is the greatest QB to ever play the game and they aren't making any more of him.  And for the record the modern NFL isn't interested in statues that can navigate the pocket. They want their QB to be like Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Watson or any of the young mobile QBs with great arm talent.  In fact look at the last draft - four of the five first round QB's are mobile guys with great arms.   Only one of the five, Max Jones, can be remotely described as Brady like in style.  Collinsworth is simply delusional here.

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, Breakout Squad said:

Lamar just lofts the ball up there and acts surprised it was intercepted. He’s just not that good

50/50 ball. Plus the chance of a PI call. Plus it puts the Browns deep in their own territory. I don't think it's terrible to take that chance. 

[LeGOATski]

Neither QB wants to win this game.