Chicagobills Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Why don’t we run McKenzie jet sweep anymore? Last year we ran it almost every game. I feel like offense less creative this year and more conservative? Maybe bc the poor O line play? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chicagobills said: Why don’t we run McKenzie jet sweep anymore? Last year we ran it almost every game. I feel like offense less creative this year and more conservative? Maybe bc the poor O line play? Maybe ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I will piggyback off of this and add that pre-snap motion, aside from tiny shifts with RBs, TEs and WRs realigning, has disappeared entirely. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 They made McKenzie a specialist only. Such a waste of a weapon 2 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 It’s concerning. I felt despite the fact they rarely gave it to him it did slow the defense just a second making sure he didn’t get it which we obviously could use since pass protection is so bad. With McKenzie on returns this year maybe they don’t want to risk injury using him too much, but it’s not like other guys can’t do it. I really like moss but I’m kinda hoping he misses a week so Breida jumps in and maybe runs that gadget role to distract defenses and catch the occasional screen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chicagobills said: Why don’t we run McKenzie jet sweep anymore? Last year we ran it almost every game. I feel like offense less creative this year and more conservative? Maybe bc the poor O line play? Good question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chicagobills said: Why don’t we run McKenzie jet sweep anymore? Last year we ran it almost every game. I feel like offense less creative this year and more conservative? Maybe bc the poor O line play? Because we tried one in week 1 and Pitt was waiting for it and it seems like it scared the Bills off from using it ever since 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 It's almost like we went to the Adam gase offense lol no motion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 McKenzie had a breakout game against the Dolphins last season and has been MIA ever since. It's sad. Once they get Knox back they will have more balance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Daboll is in completely over his head. He really has no idea what he's doing. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 They are too busy having McKittrick trying to block on those head scratching wide receiver screens. Sarcasm off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 If McKenzie gets injured, who can return kicks as well as he can? I think that’s why we don’t see it. I do miss it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: They made McKenzie a specialist only. Such a waste of a weapon And Gabe Davis hardly sees the field. He had 600 yards and 7 TD's last year, made huge catches in the Indy playoff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Process said: Daboll is in completely over his head. He really has no idea what he's doing. I think he is overrated, although no HC offers after multiple interviews tells me other GM's don't rate him that highly either. In his defense, nobody can go very far with poor Oline play, but he is so scared to run that defenses almost always know what's coming. I also agree w another poster wondering why we drafted Basham who never plays when we were so in need of Oline talent. Some of this is injury related, but part of it is poor planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: And Gabe Davis hardly sees the field. He had 600 yards and 7 TD's last year, made huge catches in the Indy playoff game. Sanders is getting his reps, and he's better than Davis. But yeah, there are major problems with the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Daboll hasn’t been the same since losing both grandparents, we need to understand there are things going on that would cause anyone to be challenged at work. We need to be patient and let him work out of this funk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 49 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I will piggyback off of this and add that pre-snap motion, aside from tiny shifts with RBs, TEs and WRs realigning, has disappeared entirely. Whatever creative ability Daboll had has disappeared with this pathetic OL. I have an idea. All the money we would've wasted on Edmunds we can use on a guard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Sanders is getting his reps, and he's better than Davis. But yeah, there are major problems with the offense. You sure Sanders is better at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Chicagobills said: Why don’t we run McKenzie jet sweep anymore? Last year we ran it almost every game. I feel like offense less creative this year and more conservative? Maybe bc the poor O line play? Seems like Daboll retires concepts based on a comment he once made in a press conference. I don’t get it- not every play needs to be something no one has ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 are the bills just trying to get to the playoffs to open up the play book a bit more/ keep guys as healthy as possible? This season has seen a drop in pre snap motions and any sort of slant passes/crossing routes over the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said: Daboll hasn’t been the same since losing both grandparents, we need to understand there are things going on that would cause anyone to be challenged at work. We need to be patient and let him work out of this funk. He's been off before he lost his grandparents IMO. Goes back to the chiefs game last afc championship game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Chicagobills said: Why don’t we run McKenzie jet sweep anymore? Last year we ran it almost every game. I feel like offense less creative this year and more conservative? Maybe bc the poor O line play? Yeah, I was looking at the team’s stats yesterday and was surprised to see he had only 3 rushing attempts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I'm glad other people are saying the samething I've been saying/thinking about the sweeps. What's also interesting is against KC, the offense looked completely different with the type of plays, etc then it did at any point this year. It's all very confusing. This is/was the top scoring offense in the league going into today, right? However I would argue the offense just hasn't looked/felt right all year. Like it seems so much gets left on the table each game, even the big "blowout" wins they've had. 4 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said: Yeah, I was looking at the team’s stats yesterday and was surprised to see he had only 3 rushing attempts. Sometimes his sweeps are considered passes though. Something to keep in mind. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 17 hours ago, letsgoteam said: I'm glad other people are saying the samething I've been saying/thinking about the sweeps. What's also interesting is against KC, the offense looked completely different with the type of plays, etc then it did at any point this year. It's all very confusing. This is/was the top scoring offense in the league going into today, right? However I would argue the offense just hasn't looked/felt right all year. Like it seems so much gets left on the table each game, even the big "blowout" wins they've had. Sometimes his sweeps are considered passes though. Something to keep in mind. 🙂 That is true but he also has only 4 receptions. They may have decided that Roberts wasn’t worth keeping around as a return specialist for the money he wanted but it doesn’t make sense when you then stop using an offensive weapon because you moved him into that role. The lowly Texans though came to the same realization with Roberts when he wasn’t producing at an All-Pro level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 20 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: are the bills just trying to get to the playoffs to open up the play book a bit more/ keep guys as healthy as possible? This season has seen a drop in pre snap motions and any sort of slant passes/crossing routes over the middle If the plan is to keep people as healthy as possible it’s not working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I said this towards the end of the year last year going into the playoffs. I thought that McKenzie motion was a staple of the offense that just kinda went away and I didn't understand why. It's like Daboll's just let go of his creativity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 21 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Daboll hasn’t been the same since losing both grandparents, we need to understand there are things going on that would cause anyone to be challenged at work. We need to be patient and let him work out of this funk. I disagree...if dabol cant perform his job up to the expectations then maybe he needs to take a leave of absence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I said this towards the end of the year last year going into the playoffs. I thought that McKenzie motion was a staple of the offense that just kinda went away and I didn't understand why. It's like Daboll's just let go of his creativity. Peak Qb play is a narcotic to OCs imo. They come up with all these check with me and routes. Basically, Allen here is a play do A vs B, C vs D, E vs G etc…. All good but 10 other guys gotta be on the same field and be on the same page. All the creativity to get an easy 10 yards are gone. Rodgers did this with Green bay for years with McCarthy. Bland play calls but more often than not he makes it work. Daboll is falling down that hole. Allen can do anything and make the should be bad plays good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: That is true but he also has only 4 receptions. They may have decided that Roberts wasn’t worth keeping around as a return specialist for the money he wanted but it doesn’t make sense when you then stop using an offensive weapon because you moved him into that role. The lowly Texans though came to the same realization with Roberts when he wasn’t producing at an All-Pro level. I completely agree. At some point they need to just let the players, play. Even if its just the window dressing, of him going in motion. They can do it say 10 times a game, and only give it to 2 or 3 times and it would still really help the offense in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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