cba fan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Not to defend Rodgers, but there is a difference between being immunized and having been vaccinated. yes for lying dishonest cheaters who don't want to tell the truth and cling to technicalities. Then he pretends to be vaxxed by not following protocols when cameras are around. Scumbag. He knew what was asked and he knew he was lying. Double Scumbag. Edited November 3, 2021 by cba fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Based on Rodgers' comments in that article, it seems like he was NOT pro-vax and had issues with the league's testing policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Sorry but this does raise the question again, do we have definitive confirmation that Allen is vaccinated?? I still can't imagine the Bills would have gave him the massive contract extension but it's fair to ask especially since it's well documented his family are far right leaning in terms of politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 How funny would it be if Love came in and lit it up, and made it obvious the Packers could move on from Rodgers immediately. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, unbillievable said: I'm going to guess healing crystals. More like Bath Salts or something??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, DaggersEOD said: Unless he actually HAS covid. Then he’s out for weeks until he can play. No difference. There is a difference. If you’re unvaccinated you have to be out a minimum of 10 days, even if you have no symptoms. If you’re vaccinated and have covid you can be back as quickly as 48 hours if you have no symptoms. If you do have symptoms you have to be symptom free for 48 hours and then have 2 negative covid tests. So in theory he could be back as soon as 4 days. But we now know he is unvaccinated, so it’ll be a minimum of 10 days. Edited November 3, 2021 by BillsFan4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: what was the alternative treatment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said: Sorry but this does raise the question again, do we have definitive confirmation that Allen is vaccinated?? I still can't imagine the Bills would have gave him the massive contract extension but it's fair to ask especially since it's well documented his family are far right leaning in terms of politics. Towards the beginning of the year, we had Allen unmasked while unvaccinated players were still masked (Beasley, McKenzie, etc) which seemed to indicate Allen was vaccinated. I assume he followed McDermott's lead in order to get the team's percentage up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Why the heck was he allowed to violate the NFL covid protocols if the NFL knew he was unvaccinated? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, nucci said: what was the alternative treatment? Curious of this myself. I have a few guesses but I’ll keep them to myself for now 😂 Whatever it was, it didn’t work... lol Edited November 3, 2021 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Sorry but this does raise the question again, do we have definitive confirmation that Allen is vaccinated?? I still can't imagine the Bills would have gave him the massive contract extension but it's fair to ask especially since it's well documented his family are far right leaning in terms of politics. It’s been asked several times in the thread and the answer is no, we don’t know either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, DaggersEOD said: Well everyone knows that the vax does not stop transmission and infection. All it does is make the symptoms more mild. So his infection has nothing to do with his vax status. If anything, hanging out with vaxxed people is more likely the problem as one of them obviously had Covid but because their symptoms were suppressed, didn’t stay home, mask up or social distance. The Vaxxed should be tested much more often as they may not be presenting symptoms even while shedding pathogens. The NFL has this exactly backwards. But the science has long ago been discarded. vaxxed very very rarely get Covid. Unvaxxed are virtually all the cases now. But don't let math get in your way of any conspiracy theories. 😂 9 1 6 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Towards the beginning of the year, we had Allen unmasked while unvaccinated players were still masked (Beasley, McKenzie, etc) which seemed to indicate Allen was vaccinated. I assume he followed McDermott's lead in order to get the team's percentage up. I think the NFL will be coming down hard in terms of Covid protocol after this, so expect to see quite a few masks suddenly appear again starting tomorrow. 1 minute ago, cba fan said: vaxxed very very rarely get Covid. Unvaxxed are virtually all the cases now. But don't let math get in your way of any conspiracy theories. 😂 Don’t think that’s quite true - think it’s more a case of anyone can get Covid but unvaccinated people tend to be hit harder, symptoms wise. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: How funny would it be if Love came in and lit it up, and made it obvious the Packers could move on from Rodgers immediately. LOL I would love and it and it certainly wouldnt shock me. I wonder if his teammates are tired of all the drama queen non-sense from Aaron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, cba fan said: yes for lying dishonest cheaters who don't want to tell the truth and cling to technicalities. He knew what was asked and he knew he was lying. Scumbag. I didn’t consider the lying cheaters like Rodgers, only the medical specialists in epidemiology who make the distinction for very important reasons. 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Explains his too clever by half coyness with his answer. Too bad there wasn’t a more savvy reporter there to press him on his answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 42 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I haven’t seen one way or the other. The only one to say he isn’t is Beasley. The one thing that makes me think he is vaccinated is his unmasked attendance at an NBA finals game where masks for unvaxxed people were required. It was a policy that couldn't be enforced, but Allen has never struck me as the irresponsible scofflaw type. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: How funny would it be if Love came in and lit it up, and made it obvious the Packers could move on from Rodgers immediately. LOL Yep. Like I said up thread, I hope Love Wally Pipps his arrogant ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Process said: If he was vaxed he could play with two negative tests before Sunday. COVID goes away that fast?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Great. I couldn't care less about his Vax status or stance. All I care about is the fact that this screws the Bills by making a guaranteed L for the Chefs into a competitive game. Time to show some love for Love (and I don't mean Beach Boy). 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Damn, well looks like Chiefs came across a clover patch full of 4 leaves Can I channel Metallica and hope that the soothing light at the end of their tunnel, is just a Freight Train headed their way? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: COVID goes away that fast?! For vaccinated, asymptomatic people, sometimes but not always. Hence the basis for the NFL policy - but also the reason vaxxed Davante Adams missed a game, he didn't meet the 2 neg tests 24 hrs apart in time to join the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Michael1962 said: I think the Chief's defense is so weak that my grandmother could rack up yards/points on them. And she has been dead for over a decade. Could you bring her coffin to Green Bay for a tryout? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassToMouth Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 58 minutes ago, nucci said: what was the alternative treatment? Puff puff pass 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I am not sure that is true. If he has tested positive I think he is out. The vacced / unvacced difference is relevant to close contacts I believe. Explained here. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/how-the-nfls-covid-19-rules-are-different-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-players/ Vaccinated: Upon a positive COVID-19 test, a player can return if: 1) He has two negative PCR tests taken at least 24 hours apart, and 2) He is asymptomatic for 48 hours. Unvaccinated: Minimum 10-day quarantine after a positive COVID-19 test. So if Rodgers tested positive yesterday and were vaccinated, all he would need is a negative test and no symptoms Thursday and Friday (or even Friday and Saturday if they can work out the travel arrangements) and he'd be Good to Go. 3 hours ago, Gene1973 said: This is correct. If he was a close contact and vaxed, it's 2 neg tests in a 24 hour period iirc. But close contact and unvaxed, 5 days. No, this is incorrect, see above. There is a difference in protocol for positive covid tests, based on data about how viral titer behaves. 3 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: So was Rodgers straight up lying in the offseason then when he said he was vaccinated? https://www.cbs58.com/news/aaron-rodgers-announces-hes-been-vaccinated-but-not-going-to-judge-teammates-who-arent He was playing word games. He got some alternative treatment he petitioned the NFL to recognize and the NFL's medical officers said "Ah, No." It does make me wonder if they've recognized anything else, for example being vaccinated with an inactivated virus vaccine that is approved in other countries but not in US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Wow the Chiefs lucked into that one. edit wait: I don't really want to go through this thread as I am late to it. Can Rodgers play or not or undetermined? Edited November 3, 2021 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I think in the interest of fairness and sportsmanship, the Chiefs should sit Patty this weekend. 😈 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: What in the actual F?! Homeopathic treatment to raise antibodies? Really? I’d love to hear about this from his doctor. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, K-9 said: What in the actual F?! Homeopathic treatment to raise antibodies? Really? I’d love to hear about this from his doctor. I think his "doctor" might be posting in this thread. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, nucci said: the vaccine is to prevent serious illness and hospitalizations But keeping players away from the team is to prevent spread. Having different timelines for both makes no sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: Was she a caveman perhaps? Probably not. Gender roles were insanely clear back then. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassToMouth Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, wjag said: I think in the interest of fairness and sportsmanship, the Chiefs should sit Patty this weekend. 😈 Wouldn’t want to get hit with the classless label like our squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: We're sure Josh is vaccinated right? No. No, we're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Ruggs is gone Thomas is out Rogers is exiled. What will happen tomorrow? Edited November 3, 2021 by unbillievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassToMouth Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: No. No, we're not. Would you all treat Josh as you have Beasley if it turns out he’s not? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Beasley's stance makes a lot of sense. There is no reason to treat positive tests differently. Once you're sick it doesn't matter whether you got vaccinated or not, you can spread it. They have already shown that the viral loads are the same, regardless of symptoms. Clearly it's harsher not to prevent spread, but to encourage players to get shot. Rogers could test negative twice before Sunday and they would still keep him out as punishment. We are NOT gonna turn this into "Yet Another Beasley Thread". The NFL is basing their policy on data that while the viral titer in infected vaxxed vs. unvaxxed people measures the same initially, it declines more quickly in vaccinated people and there is lower spread. If their protocols don't turn out to be sufficient to contain spread within teams, the NFL will revise them. 13 minutes ago, unbillievable said: But keeping players away from the team is to prevent spread. Having different timelines for both makes no sense. Send your registered letter explaining this to the NFL's chief medical officer (and Vandy professor) Dr. Allen Stills. I'm sure he'll be happy to hear that the protocols the NFL's medical committee developed based on reviewing the latest research make no sense, and will give your objections his earliest attention. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, BassToMouth said: Would you all treat Josh as you have Beasley if it turns out he’s not? if he was making the same comments on twitter....yes 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassToMouth Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Ruggs is gone Adams is out Rogers is exiled. What will happen tomorrow? Bills sign OJ to practice squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, BassToMouth said: Everyone bows down to western doctors as if they’re infallible. It’s incredibly dangerous. “Oh are you a doctor? Didn’t think so” most common response in any debate within science and medicine I find the same thing when I talk about my car breaking down...Everyone is like "ask an mechanic". Why should I trust a mechanic just because they are trained experts in their field?! I'll just ask random dudes on FB instead. 4 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassToMouth Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, nucci said: if he was making the same comments on twitter....yes 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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