Thurman#1 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 10 hours ago, HappyDays said: It's both. Neither Singletary nor Moss are legit #1 RBs. A true high end pass catching RB would be explosive in this offense. They're absolutely legit #1 RBs. They're not elite, they're not work horses and neither one is a home run threat. But they both get explosive plays and together they get more than the blocking would usually amount to and they add up to probably a top 16 backfield. They're limited, but they're #1s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Another guy made of glass....no thanks. I think the Bills are doing it the right way at RB using a 3rd round pick or lower and adding lower tier FA's on short deals. Paying huge money or drafting a RB high are not options for this regime. Besides its a passing league now and the Bills have a great QB. You just need the backs to hit the hole once in a while to keep the pass rush at bay. Moss and Singles can do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 40 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I think the Bills are doing it the right way at RB using a 3rd round pick or lower and adding lower tier FA's on short deals. Paying huge money or drafting a RB high are not options for this regime. Besides its a passing league now and the Bills have a great QB. CMC's the biggest receiving threat among running backs in the NFL when healthy. He'd add a dimension to this offense that would make us scary good. Like others have pointed out though because of his contract it would be impracticable and irresponsible to trade for him given the current construct and trajectory of our roster. Beane was still on the staff when the Panthers picked CMC at #8 in 2017 so don't assume it's not an option in the future to use the first round pick on a dual threat RB if the right player pops up. It would have to be a prospect like CMC, Faulk, Tomlinson, Thomas, etc... No second contract and use the 5th year option if possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: They're absolutely legit #1 RBs. They're not elite, they're not work horses and neither one is a home run threat. But they both get explosive plays and together they get more than the blocking would usually amount to and they add up to probably a top 16 backfield. They're limited, but they're #1s. It is surprising how many nice carries they have each game that people just forget about lol they each had some impressive runs in the titans game with little to no competent run blocking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 no. go build the O line in the offseason. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 12 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: It's my chance to get McCaffrey and I won't let anybody ***** on my rainbow!!!💩 That was room service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 settle down.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: settle down.... I know, we have a bunch of McCaffrey haters on our hands 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, What a Tuel said: This is a bit of hyperbole 6 games in two years? He has played 22 out of 40 games. In 2020 he had some unfortunate injuries, and may have come back later in the season but the Panthers were 4-8 ish and why bother? In 2021 he came back strong as ever with 364 yards of offense in two games. Yes he injured his hamstring this year. That can happen to anyone. In fact it has happened to both of our running backs. I don't know anything about a potential trade but bottom line is McCaffrey puts us over the top if he is healthy at the cost of a high draft pick. If he somehow stays injured, it was worth the gamble for a super bowl. Its not like the guy is going to fall apart and never play again, its a damn hamstring. Sorry but it's hardly hyperbole. He played 3 games last year. He's played 3 games this year and is on IR again. That's a pattern. How healthy he was 3, 4 or 5 years ago means nothing if he can't stay healthy now, and it looks for all the world that he can't. I'm not trading a high pick on the off-chance he manages to somehow get healthy again and stay healthy. 6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, totally. If I were the Fins I'd demand pick protections. Not sure I'd give them if I was the Texans, but I'd strongly consider it. They need to put this mess behind them. The Texans would be dumb to offer/accept pick protection. It only helps Miami and not them. They're best-off waiting until the off-season, when Watson's legal issues should become clearer and more suitors might enter into a bidding war. Edited October 31, 2021 by Doc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I can’t wait for the trade deadline to pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Trade Cody Ford for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 20 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Everybody here knows how much I love McCaffrey but have been unwilling to accept that the Panthers would be willing to ship him out. Well, seems that that time has come. https://sports.yahoo.com/report-panthers-willing-trade-christian-031706279.html Now this article says that it would be Houston getting him as part of the Watson deal but I have other plans... We have the closest relationships to the Panthers in the league so why not help them out, right Beane? We package some picks and Addison to Houston, Carolina send us McCaffrey so we can take real good care of him and get him some Super Bowl rings starting this year. Carolina sends some picks and players to Houston and gets DeShaun. Everybody is happy, especially Josh Allen and me! I have the highest faith in Beane to get this done...Let's Go Brandon, work that phone! Shirley, you can’t be serious? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Dude would be awesome if the Bills somehow didn't pay much (it happens sometimes in front loaded deals) But even so, even if I love the player, he doesn't fit the Bills. He sometimes got touches on up to 70% of plays (!!!) and with Diggs, Sanders, Beasley, Knox, Davis... there ain't much left to go around. Ask Davis about it ha ha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Dude would be awesome if the Bills somehow didn't pay much (it happens sometimes in front loaded deals) But even so, even if I love the player, he doesn't fit the Bills. He sometimes got touches on up to 70% of plays (!!!) and with Diggs, Sanders, Beasley, Knox, Davis... there ain't much left to go around. Ask Davis about it ha ha I think he would help in the passing game- taking over for Beasley’s role... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 It would be awesome to have an RB that an opposing defense has to game plan for. Derrick Henry won the game for the Titans the week before the game was played. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, benderbender said: It would be awesome to have an RB that an opposing defense has to game plan for. Derrick Henry won the game for the Titans the week before the game was played. Yup...it seems that every week we are just “hoping” our RB’s are adequate, knowing that’s probably the best we can ask for...kinda sux...offense will never reach fullest potential that way imo... Edited October 31, 2021 by JaCrispy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I don’t think it matters who the RB is, this O-Line couldn’t push a 2 year old down a slip and slide. The only RB that could run behind this horse ***** line is D. Henry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I don’t think it matters who the RB is, this O-Line couldn’t push a 2 year old down a slip and slide. The only RB that could run behind this horse ***** line is D. Henry. This is also true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 He and Barkley are the NFL equivalent of the growing number of young pitchers drafted into MLB needing Tommy John surgery almost immediately. A lot of hard road miles on body parts before they got to the pros, and various ligaments etc. are on borrowed time. The best job skill is often just being available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ski Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 22 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Everybody here knows how much I love McCaffrey but have been unwilling to accept that the Panthers would be willing to ship him out. Well, seems that that time has come. https://sports.yahoo.com/report-panthers-willing-trade-christian-031706279.html Now this article says that it would be Houston getting him as part of the Watson deal but I have other plans... We have the closest relationships to the Panthers in the league so why not help them out, right Beane? We package some picks and Addison to Houston, Carolina send us McCaffrey so we can take real good care of him and get him some Super Bowl rings starting this year. Carolina sends some picks and players to Houston and gets DeShaun. Everybody is happy, especially Josh Allen and me! I have the highest faith in Beane to get this done...Let's Go Brandon, work that phone! He'll look just like a rookie with this o line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: I think he would help in the passing game- taking over for Beasley’s role... No no, as a compliment to Beasley... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I'd call the Giants about Barkley honestly. He would be cheaper and can be just as explosive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 7 hours ago, JMF2006 said: Another guy made of glass....no thanks. I think the Bills are doing it the right way at RB using a 3rd round pick or lower and adding lower tier FA's on short deals. Paying huge money or drafting a RB high are not options for this regime. Besides its a passing league now and the Bills have a great QB. You just need the backs to hit the hole once in a while to keep the pass rush at bay. Moss and Singles can do that. Yes but McCaffrey can see most of his touches as passes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Im not for this trade, but a healthy McCaffrey in this offense holy ***** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I would love this, cuz I legit feel a pass catching threat like him is what the bills are really missing. But that contract is too much for an rb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 'r Mortis Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Do it! Even if he only plays 3 games they would be guaranteed wins wooooo! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 No need to trade for a RB, I like what I see from Moss and Singletary isn’t bad depth. Much rather be in the market for interior Oline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Yeah, OL if anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Injury prone.....no thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Sherlock, my comments on no to CMAC is not in an injury prone remark, just the team like Earl Campbell, Shawn Alexander, Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson and so on have a shelf life. Now before you rebut buddy with those guys we’re pounders and you’d be right, he’s given so many all purpose touches it’s breaking down his body. That’s not injury prone, that’s simply a body getting beaten down with so many all purpose touches he can’t stay on the field. Historically, once a RB gets beaten up too bad, they fall off fast. Even the great Gale Sayers only made it a handful of years as his knees couldn’t hold up. Derrick Henry was a monster in 2019 and dragged the Titans to the AFCCG on his back but looked precipitously different between the first playoff game and the championship game. Add to that a monster RB contract and no way. Please know a healthy CMAC has been my favorite RB for the last several years, but he may not be what he was two years ago. One other editorial is watch Henry once the Titans get to the playoffs. He’s the king now, but on pace for well over 400 carries. What are the Titans without the threat of Henry? This is one of the main reasons I’m not worried about the Titans in the playoffs. Henry will not be the same on his 19th game. They will win the South and we will win the East so it’s likely we don’t see each other until at least divisional week. The human body even a freak like his are not meant to take that kind of pounding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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