YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 57 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Well, given that we’re facing Washington, it’s worth mentioning that he played well in a quite windy game vs them in 2019. Average 18 mph winds with gusts higher than that, and a passer rating of 110.4 (70 percent completion rate). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201911030buf.htm He also played well vs Denver in similar conditions. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201911240buf.htm The Rams game last year was also very windy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, twist_to_open said: Not really the same thing, but when my son played college football, he ate 6-8 PBJs a day. Helped keep his weight, high protein and gives you energy. Yeah energy density on a PBJ is solid, checks all the boxes for protein, carbs and fat. Just laughing to myself thinking that halftime for adult football players is more like my kiddos snack time than a solid strategy check for adjustments going into the back half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, uninja said: Yeah energy density on a PBJ is solid, checks all the boxes for protein, carbs and fat. Just laughing to myself thinking that halftime for adult football players is more like my kiddos snack time than a solid strategy check for adjustments going into the back half. I agree, but Im sure he has it stored in a Sponge Bob sandwich bag tho! Edited September 25, 2021 by twist_to_open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Did someone say PB&J? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Well, given that we’re facing Washington, it’s worth mentioning that he played well in a quite windy game vs them in 2019. Average 18 mph winds with gusts higher than that, and a passer rating of 110.4 (70 percent completion rate). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201911030buf.htm He also played well vs Denver in similar conditions. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201911240buf.htm The real myth is that there is any good down field QB in bad wind. That strong arm QBs can over power gusts. That's when you should run the ball or toss a lot of high percentage screens. Look at the old K gun games and you wont see Jimbo slaying the wind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 54 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: The real myth is that there is any good down field QB in bad wind. That strong arm QBs can over power gusts. That's when you should run the ball or toss a lot of high percentage screens. Look at the old K gun games and you wont see Jimbo slaying the wind. In that 2019 Denver game, the difference in ability to handle wind between allen and the denver qbs was stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 58 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: The real myth is that there is any good down field QB in bad wind. That strong arm QBs can over power gusts. That's when you should run the ball or toss a lot of high percentage screens. Look at the old K gun games and you wont see Jimbo slaying the wind. It affects all QBs, it just affects weak armed QBs more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 It's amazing that nobody before me has ever noticed the similarity between WFT and WTF. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 hours ago, uninja said: Yeah energy density on a PBJ is solid, checks all the boxes for protein, carbs and fat. Just laughing to myself thinking that halftime for adult football players is more like my kiddos snack time than a solid strategy check for adjustments going into the back half. The NBA has been doing it for some time now https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/presents18931717/the-nba-secret-addiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 2 hours ago, RichRiderBills said: The real myth is that there is any good down field QB in bad wind. That strong arm QBs can over power gusts. That's when you should run the ball or toss a lot of high percentage screens. Look at the old K gun games and you wont see Jimbo slaying the wind. It always amazes me how fans misinterpret basic aerodynamics. Once a football leaves the quarterbacks hands, it is "in the atmosphere," and subjected to the same laws that all flying objects are. If a "strong armed" quarterback provides increased velocity at release, the ball will be subjected to those influences for less time, but the same influences. Works the same in aviation. Winds have the same effect on 777 as they do on a Cessna 172. Stronger arms, measured by release velocity, simply provide less time for those effects. One caveat. The spin rate of the football effects stability. Less stability results in greater ball wobble, and that subjects the ball to greater parasite drag as opposed to a tight spiral. Ergo, a tight spiral is less effected by that type of drag. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 40 minutes ago, sherpa said: It always amazes me how fans misinterpret basic aerodynamics. Once a football leaves the quarterbacks hands, it is "in the atmosphere," and subjected to the same laws that all flying objects are. If a "strong armed" quarterback provides increased velocity at release, the ball will be subjected to those influences for less time, but the same influences. Works the same in aviation. Winds have the same effect on 777 as they do on a Cessna 172. Stronger arms, measured by release velocity, simply provide less time for those effects. One caveat. The spin rate of the football effects stability. Less stability results in greater ball wobble, and that subjects the ball to greater parasite drag as opposed to a tight spiral. Ergo, a tight spiral is less effected by that type of drag. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Wiz Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Dr. K said: It's amazing that nobody before me has ever noticed the similarity between WFT and WTF. WFT are you talking about? 😕 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 8 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: 🤔 is that good? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 4 hours ago, RichRiderBills said: The real myth is that there is any good down field QB in bad wind. That strong arm QBs can over power gusts. That's when you should run the ball or toss a lot of high percentage screens. Look at the old K gun games and you wont see Jimbo slaying the wind. Yup I agree, when conditions are like that it pretty much forces you to adjust the game plan to an extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin C Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be a disaster. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcamm1966 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Justin C said: I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be a disaster. It's gonna make the southern border crossing look organized 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Justin C said: I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be a disaster. oh good Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Justin C said: I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be a disaster. On the bright side if they do have entrance problems, Josh may actually play well at least at the beginning of the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: On the bright side if they do have entrance problems, Josh may actually play well at least at the beginning of the game. Is it just me or do we not play well at home? The team always looks more in sync to me on the road. Both sides of the ball. It’s definitely happened enough times to notice the trend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 So no kids can go to game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Governor said: Is it just me or do we not play well at home? The team always looks more in sync to me on the road. Both sides of the ball. It’s definitely happened enough times to notice the trend. He's been marginally better on the road over his career (85.8 passer rating at home and 93.1 on the road). Not really enough to conclude that he's a better road quarterback though. The team under Allen is better at home (15-8 vs. 14-9). Some of our biggest regular season wins came on the road though so that may skew our thinking. Edited September 26, 2021 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: So no kids can go to game? Ages 12 and under when accompanied by a double vaccinated adult are permitted. But, they must be able to urinate in the sink in the men’s bathroom to be truly accepted. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) Saw this on ESPN. “Washington has lost five straight road games at the Bills, and all by double digits. Its last road win at the Bills was in Week 8 of the 1987 season.” It’s about to be six losses in a row! Go Bills!! Edited September 26, 2021 by BillsFan619 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: Saw this on ESPN. “Washington has lost five straight road games at the Bills, and all by double digits. Its last road win at the Bills was in Week 8 of the 1987 season.” It’s about to be six! Go Bills!! I agree if WTF has players on the team from 1987 I'm sure it'll be a double digit win for the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantankeous Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 5 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: Saw this on ESPN. “Washington has lost five straight road games at the Bills, and all by double digits. Its last road win at the Bills was in Week 8 of the 1987 season.” It’s about to be six losses in a row! Go Bills!! Fairly certain that was a scab game. No real Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Cantankeous said: Fairly certain that was a scab game. No real Bills. Actually it wasn't a scab game. Bills hung tough against the eventual SB Champs. Buffalo just wasn't in that class yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 19 hours ago, Starr Almighty said: I agree if WTF has players on the team from 1987 I'm sure it'll be a double digit win for the Bills Well bro, I guess WFT did have some players on the team from ‘87 today. 😜 Go Bills! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 WFT sucks. That team is not an NFC East contender0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goober Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 9:39 PM, newcam2012 said: I just locked in Wash at +9.5. Think the Bills win but don't cover. The Bills defense is playing very well and the offense... I see more of the same here. The Bills offense will try to establish a more balanced attack to take the pressure off Allen. I don't see a quick turn around for Allen. He won't make rookie mistakes, his legs will be valuable, he will make a few nice throws, and he will manage the game and the Bills to a victory. Imho, it's the defense that wins the game. Buffalo 24 Wash 17 Sorry for your loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, goober said: Sorry for your loss. It's ok. I'm more than ok with the Bills win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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