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9/12/2021 Steelers @ Bills Post Game thread


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Just now, HappyDays said:

I guess I'm alone on this but I didn't think Allen was bad today. He definitely underperformed in the 1st half compared to what he showed last year, but the pass rush got to him a ton. He settled in just fine at the end of the 1st half but the whole last 20 minutes of the game he had no chance. Dumbest 4th and 1 call I've ever seen. Sanders dropped a perfectly placed seam pass. Numerous offensive holding calls that brought good passes back. Allen would have had to play a nearly perfect game to win this one and I can't expect that from him every week.

 

The biggest culprit in this game BY FAR was the o-line. Dawkins is seriously worrying me. He has to get his conditioning back in the middle of a season. That's a tough ask. The guards were awful all game long. Someone needs to remind the Bills offensive holding is getting called this year. It is my #1 concern about the team right now.

I would agree, minus the dang deep ball. Those misses are monster game changers. He missed another 2-3 deep balls today. Those splash plays change everything and we gotta hit at least one. Our best play of the day was what?? Maybe the 25 yard run by motor at the end. 

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9 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

12-4 and they nearly beat Cleveland while resting starters at the end of the season.  Steelers are going to roll through the afc north with all the injuries Baltimore has.

You are right, ended 12-5. Not sure about that though Baltimore nor Cleveland won't be easy outs and lets wait to see how Bens arm is after more than one game.

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5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

EVERYONE underestimated this Steelers defense.  I was feeling that after the Watt signing a bad feeling.  That we still don't matchup well with them my concern was running the ball but their pass defense is better.  Engram is better then Dupree.  Much better.  

 

It might be the best D we see all year.

Our offense has been dog**** for the last 14 consecutive quarters against playoff caliber defenses.

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3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Absolutely- this 5 wide stuff seems to play into what the Steelers do best. It’s good I’m not a coach because Its baffling what the bills offense was thinking they wanted todo. 

 

 

You need tight ends to beat them.  A threat from 2 TE looks

 

This matchup was just horrendous all around 

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13 minutes ago, dpberr said:

Let's hope next week is a rebound.

 

Still no defensive pressure.

 

Offensive strategy was lacking the screens, motion and gadgetry that gets players open. The motion and misdirection is the secret sauce.

Agree on the offensive strategy.  They seemed to know what we were calling.  They seemed to have 3 DBs near every pass.  Poor blocking, lack of execution all around.  

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2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

You not realizing the steelers are contenders is very much on you 🤣 why should the steelers pay for most football talking heads on TV being idiots and not giving them enough attention lol they have a great roster if their oline is decent

The Steelers are not contenders.  Sorry, but they are not.  They are a middle of the road team.  You'll see...

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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I guess I'm alone on this but I didn't think Allen was bad today. He definitely underperformed in the 1st half compared to what he showed last year, but the pass rush got to him a ton. He settled in just fine at the end of the 1st half but the whole last 20 minutes of the game he had no chance. Dumbest 4th and 1 call I've ever seen. Sanders dropped a perfectly placed seam pass. Numerous offensive holding calls that brought good passes back. Allen would have had to play a nearly perfect game to win this one and I can't expect that from him every week.

 

The biggest culprit in this game BY FAR was the o-line. Dawkins is seriously worrying me. He has to get his conditioning back in the middle of a season. That's a tough ask. The guards were awful all game long. Someone needs to remind the Bills offensive holding is getting called this year. It is my #1 concern about the team right now.

 

Agree about Allen. I don't know about the OL being big villians though. Its still like Heyward and Watt, two demons. Steelers D always rough.

 

That being said...I cant escape playcalling and that goddamn blocked punt. 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

Anyways, I don't like Josh throwing 51 times a game especially when our offensive line is getting demolished by Ingram and Heyward. 

This!

 

That Bills O line wasn't good enough against KC and it didn't improve.

 

Also, the Steelers who almost always field a top defense had an entire off season to study that Bills passing offense and Allen's tendency's.

 

Might need to get used to a long, long season if this team attempts to stay one dimensional. 

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Just now, That's No Moon said:

Our offense has been dog**** for the last 14 consecutive quarters against playoff caliber defenses.

 

 

I wouldn't go that far.

 

The Ravens game was in fantastic 2020s NFL football weather.  

 

The Colts were a great D and we did just fine.  

 

Chiefs game was I mean come on.  

 

 

Our oline is average.

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Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

You not realizing the steelers are contenders is very much on you 🤣 why should the steelers pay for most football talking heads on TV being idiots and not giving them enough attention lol they have a great roster if their oline is decent

I just don’t see it, Big Ben isn’t good enough to QB a championship anymore. Maybe they have a great defense, but people are going to find ways to outscore the Steelers. Teams that can run the ball, and play hard nosed defense will be able to beat the Steelers. They might be a playoff team, but they aren’t top notch imo. We’re supposed to be top notch. We have the rest of the season to show that, and if we want to win the Lombardi, we’ll need to beat teams who are much better than the Steelers. 

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6 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

The defense was fine.  Yes, Wallace got picked on a bit in the second half, but he was right there on a couple of those plays.  The Johnson TD was good coverage.  It was just a great play by Johnson.  The Steelers have a great group of receivers and overall the D held up their end of the bargain.

 

We lost this game for three reasons:

1. Terrible offensive playcalling, especially in short yardage situations.

2.  Horrible offensive line play.  (But some of this falls at the feet of Daboll for not sprinkling in more Singletary runs until it was too late)

3. And obviously, the blocked punt TD.

 

Overall, I'm not too worried.  And this might have been a good wakeup call for the team that nothing comes easy in the NFL.

I agree, I think everything kinda stemmed from the O line getting absolutely owned by the steelers 4. The pressure stressed Allen, making play calls difficult. Not sure why everyone is saying Allen played like trash, he had an off day but there isn't a qb in the nfl that succeeds from that kind of front 4 pressure. (See mahomes superbowl). We made a few huge mistakes against an elite D. You don't win games that way. 

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2 minutes ago, billrooter said:

You are right, ended 12-5. Not sure about that though Baltimore nor Cleveland won't be easy outs and lets wait to see how Bens arm is after more than one game.

Cleveland is going to destroy Pittsburg this year, it’s not going to be close.

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2 minutes ago, phypon said:

The Steelers are not contenders.  Sorry, but they are not.  They are a middle of the road team.  You'll see...

They will get smacked around in the AFC North. This Bills team is finesse, and does tend to get bullied. That’s been an issue for several years. 

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2 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:

You are a better man than me LOL…

I was impressed by the last Motor drive. We couldn’t do that last year at all. Josh missed that deep throw early, as usual. To be a SB team, you can’t overthrow those passes. 
 

The pass rush is clearly better. Ben was throwing up some ducks that were caught, but normally wouldn’t be.

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Just now, SirAndrew said:

They will get smacked around in the AFC North. This Bills team is finesse, and does tend to get bullied. That’s been an issue for several years. 

I actually made the same point to a buddy of mine today before the game.  I agree.

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Just now, Big Blitz said:

 

 

I wouldn't go that far.

 

The Ravens game was in fantastic 2020s NFL football weather.  

 

The Colts were a great D and we did just fine.  

 

Chiefs game was I mean come on.  

 

 

Our oline is average.

The second half of the colts game they did nothing and almost yakked up the game, the Ravens and Chiefs games they were awful. Today the offense was more of the same. Can't block, can't move the ball, can't score touchdowns to finish drives. That's 14 quarters of bad offensive football for a team that is built to rely on its offense.

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Just now, Governor said:

I was impressed by the last Motor drive. We couldn’t do that last year at all. Josh missed that deep throw early, as usual. To be a SB team, you can’t overthrow those passes. 
 

The pass rush is clearly better. Ben was throwing up some ducks that were caught, but normally wouldn’t be.

Pittsburg adjusted in the second half, we didn’t..,

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2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I just don’t see it, Big Ben isn’t good enough to QB a championship anymore. Maybe they have a great defense, but people are going to find ways to outscore the Steelers. Teams that can run the ball, and play hard nosed defense will be able to beat the Steelers. They might be a playoff team, but they aren’t top notch imo. We’re supposed to be top notch. We have the rest of the season to show that, and if we want to win the Lombardi, we’ll need to beat teams who are much better than the Steelers. 

What makes big Ben not good enough? His most recent season was statistically as good as any other lol he had one horrendous half of football in the AFC divisional round 

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Play calling and design looked very weak today.  Nearly every play seemed to be covered like glue leaving many tight contested passes. 

 

Run game was again non existent. 

 

We didn't make impact plays when the chance was there. 

 

2 turn overs and a blocked punt for a TD ended us. 

 

On to next week. 

 

Positive note.....Rambo looked improved. 

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