YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Can’t get on the field in Houston? 😶 Edited August 29, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Wrote on here a few days ago Texans would likely cut Shaq Lawson and Andre Roberts. Roberts is old and has virtually no potential trade value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Can’t get on the field in Houston? 😶 Like McD says, you come to Buf and you'll become the best version of yourself. Certainly looks that way with Lawson and Phillips 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Like McD says, you come to Buf and you'll become the best version of yourself. Certainly looks that way with Lawson and Phillips Dolphins say something similar. Their motto is: “you come to Miami and you’ll be the worst version of yourself.” 8 1 28 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Dolphins say something similar. Their motto is: “you come to Miami and you’ll be the worst version of yourself.” And then cut one year into your deal. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 Good thing he got paid by Miami. I never thought he was that bad. Maybe not a good scheme fit? Where’s Rex when you need him 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Generally when players keep saying contract year you shouldn't resign them (Lawson and Phillips). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Lonnie "friggin'" Johnson! 4 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Dolphins say something similar. Their motto is: “you come to Miami and you’ll be the worst version of yourself.” Oddly true as the Dolphins did sign a bunch of guys last offseason that have moved on from rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Dolphins say something similar. Their motto is: “you come to Miami and you’ll be the worst version of yourself.” I thought it had to do with getting as much blow as you want. 11 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Lonnie "friggin'" Johnson! That is Lonnie "friggin'" Johnson, Jr! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Wait....when did he get traded to Houston and what for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Houston is in complete tear-down mode. Losing JJ Watt and the Deshaun Watson situation made this a miserable offseason for Texans fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I don't know if Lawson would make this roster. 😮 7 13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Like McD says, you come to Buf and you'll become the best version of yourself. Certainly looks that way with Lawson and Phillips We'll see on Jordan Phillips. He was injured last year. But some here feel he overachieved here in a contract year (and similar for Shaq) 'Zona for reals hasn't gotten what they paid for with Phillips yet. Just now, Simon said: I don't know if Lawson would make this roster. 😮 I do. Nope. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 No thank you. One hit wonder, and it wasn’t even that much of a wonder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: Wait....when did he get traded to Houston and what for? March, for LB Bendardrick McKinney and a late round pick swap https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/dolphins-trade-shaq-lawson-to-texans-for-benardrick-mckinney/ar-BB1eA1mF And I can't tell you how good it feels to be able to answer a straightforward football Q 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Simon said: I don't know if Lawson would make this roster. 😮 Maybe not but Roberts would be welcome back I would think. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: Houston is in complete tear-down mode. Losing JJ Watt and the Deshaun Watson situation made this a miserable offseason for Texans fans. Bad Ownership. Texans have a pastor who thinks he is the owner, an owner that thinks he is a pastor, a GM who thinks he is a coach and a coach that would like to retire. It really started to crumble giving Bill O Brien the Coach and GM positions. Had the idiot owner Cal McNair had any brains O Brien would have been fired on the spot for trading DeAndre Hopkins for a washed out running back who may also get cut this year. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Ship has sailed on Lawson....who I think is a good player Roberts....would totally bring him back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: We'll see on Jordan Phillips. He was injured last year. But some here feel he overachieved here in a contract year (and similar for Shaq) 'Zona for reals hasn't gotten what they paid for with Phillips yet. I do. Nope. I enjoyed Lawson and Phillips personality on the team but not really an opening for them here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I enjoyed Lawson and Phillips personality on the team but not really an opening for them here. I enjoyed Phillips as well, great teammate but the Bills have moved beyond him, especially for the $ involved. Lawson "won" us one game when he got Leonard Fournette in a huff and kicked out of the game but I am glad to see any remnants of Rex depart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: March, for LB Bendardrick McKinney and a late round pick swap https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/dolphins-trade-shaq-lawson-to-texans-for-benardrick-mckinney/ar-BB1eA1mF And I can't tell you how good it feels to be able to answer a straightforward football Q So lemme get this right: He leaves a playoff team for an inferior one, signs a 4 year deal worth about 40 million, then gets traded to the downward spiralling Texans, and has now been downgraded to a backup? What a fall from grace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Let's say you can sign Roberts for whatever his vet minimum is and lets say we can afford it. Do you do it? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Lawson too often plays at or close to replacement-level, which is why his employers keep struggling with reasons to pay him any more than that, it’s that simple. Dude is just average, and average veterans quickly get priced out. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Shaq is pretty much what I thought he would be pre draft. He’s a solid DE who is good against the run and can get some sacks with effort. He belongs on an NFL roster. In the right scheme he can be your second DE and he can be a rotational/third DE in others. A lot of fans had unrealistic expectations for him when he was drafted. Too many compared him to Mario and thought he’d be that kind of player, which was ridiculous. He’s a decent player, but 3 for $30M was a contract I was happy we didn’t give him. Edited August 27, 2021 by BarleyNY 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Just now, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Let's say you can sign Roberts for whatever his vet minimum is and lets say we can afford it. Do you do it? Roberts isn’t going to be released, he’s basically their only pro bowler (maybe Cooks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Let's say you can sign Roberts for whatever his vet minimum is and lets say we can afford it. Do you do it? I think the better question is who does it cost you on cutdown day. I think I'd be more inclined to roll with a younger buck who might be a better WR in case we lose somebody to injury or quarantine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: So lemme get this right: He leaves a playoff team for an inferior one, signs a 4 year deal worth about 40 million, then gets traded to the downward spiralling Texans, and has now been downgraded to a backup? AND on the trading block/cutting floor if not traded Correct 5 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: What a fall from grace. NFL = Not For Long It seems he was a guy who felt entitled when he got drafted, busted his hump in a contract year, then "retired in place" a bit when he got paid. I was disappointed when we didn't re-sign him, and various people expressed the above view. In hindsight, they had a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Roberts isn’t going to be released, he’s basically their only pro bowler (maybe Cooks). Excellent shot he gets axed. He is their 7-8th listed WR and is second behind the infamous KeKe Coutee as a returner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: Excellent shot he gets axed. He is their 7-8th listed WR and is second behind the infamous KeKe Coutee as a returner. No he’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 51 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Wrote on here a few days ago Texans would likely cut Shaq Lawson and Andre Roberts. Roberts is old and has virtually no potential trade value. Other than the money, I assume Roberts figured he’d get a lot more opportunities returning kickoffs with Houston? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: No he’s not. This one is newer and shows him where Roy claims Another one I saw also listed him not practicing and as questionable for Week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 JMO but no doubt in my mind that McDermott wants Andre Roberts back. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Simon said: This one is newer and shows him where Roy claims Is that official team released? Amazing if true. They paid him a bunch of guaranteed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Simon said: This one is newer and shows him where Roy claims If and that is a BIG IF the Texans had any common sense, you think they should keep an old vet returner Like Andre Roberts or acknowledge they are in a major probably multi year rebuild and look for young talent. I think they already did that be releasing JJ Watt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Is that official team released? Amazing if true. They paid him a bunch of guaranteed money. It was OurLads from 2 days ago. The team chart looks like it hasn't been updated. CBS was the one that had him listed as injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 26 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Maybe not but Roberts would be welcome back I would think. I posted this on another thread a month or so ago - the data to me doesn't seem to justify how Roberts provides value for a spot on the roster. "This data is from last October, but I have always been a bit skeptical of Andre Roberts .. he takes them out all the time and on average we were one of the better teams re: starting field position.. but by just a little bit ( a yard or two). I also think that Josh like most QBs struggle more when backed up .. I would be fine if Mackenzie took a knee every time .. and he has the added advantage of being a real WR. https://thecommutesports.com/2020/10/27/nfl-starting-field-position/ The chart is pretty interesting so I would recommend taking a look". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 That’s fine and dandy, but what do we have to do to get Reggie Ragland back? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 55 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Lonnie "friggin'" Johnson! Beat me to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Simon said: I think the better question is who does it cost you on cutdown day. I think I'd be more inclined to roll with a younger buck who might be a better WR in case we lose somebody to injury or quarantine. Stevenson gets exposed to waivers IMO in this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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