HOUSE Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Thank goodness for Justin Fields. Otherwise, the Chicago Bears brass would’ve had an absurdly embarrassing preseason game against the Buffalo Bills. Don’t get me wrong. It was plenty embarrassing for Bears general manager Ryan Pace. He decided to sign quarterback Andy Dalton for $10 million in 2021, rather than retain Mitchell Trusbisky, who ultimately signed with the Bills for $2.5 million in 2021. https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2021/08/21/bears-justin-fields-andy-dalton-bills-mitchell-trubisky/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Did Fields secretly play well against third stringers, or did I miss something ? Fields didn’t save anyone yesterday imo. Great article on Trubisky embarrassing the Bears though. I greatly enjoyed watching that, after being the guy who said preseason story lines don’t do much for me. I’m glad I was wrong. 9 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Thank goodness for Justin Fields. Otherwise, the Chicago Bears brass would’ve had an absurdly embarrassing preseason game against the Buffalo Bills. Don’t get me wrong. It was plenty embarrassing for Bears general manager Ryan Pace. He decided to sign quarterback Andy Dalton for $10 million in 2021, rather than retain Mitchell Trusbisky, who ultimately signed with the Bills for $2.5 million in 2021. https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2021/08/21/bears-justin-fields-andy-dalton-bills-mitchell-trubisky/ Said it last night they have to start Fields for me. Dalton is totally shot. He was bad last year in Dallas I don't know who watched that and decided he was the answer. They are in a bit of a mess because Fields isn't ready and is raw and reminds me in many ways of Josh in his rookie pre-season but whereas at that point McDermott and Beane were at the start of something, had the credit in the bank of breaking the drought and could afford to let Josh take his lumps as a rook, Nagy and Pace are on the hotseat. If they don't win they are out. Dysfunctional mess. Which is basically what the Bears have been since they fired Lovie Smith. 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 10 million for Andy Dalton? Inflation is killing this country 3 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Did Fields secretly play well against third stringers, or did I miss something ? Fields didn’t save anyone yesterday imo. Great article on Trubisky embarrassing the Bears though. I greatly enjoyed watching that, after being the guy who said preseason story lines don’t do much for me. I’m glad I was wrong. Well he did take that personal foul penalty that eliminated a sack/turnover that got them a 15 yd gain and a rushing TD by the RB on the next play in a 41-6 game. So I guess he kind of did something Edited August 22, 2021 by JMF2006 RB 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Sadly for us, there’s a fine coming for the helmet to helmet, Play of the Day. Fields was idiotic for not addressing an unblocked DE on a short dropback and he’s so small, you can’t get under him w/o being flagged for going too low. 🤬 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: 10 million for Andy Dalton? Inflation is killing this country The price of used cars and QB's is out of control 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Fields gives them the best chance to win behind that OL. He will be running for his life.....a lot. At least he will have some exciting moments. I think Nagy and Pace are both gone after this season. I also think Chicago is where Bienemy actually gets his first crack at a HC gig as well. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Did Fields secretly play well against third stringers, or did I miss something ? Fields didn’t save anyone yesterday imo. Great article on Trubisky embarrassing the Bears though. I greatly enjoyed watching that, after being the guy who said preseason story lines don’t do much for me. I’m glad I was wrong. Fields was fun to watch and certainly more dynamic than Dalton, but he has a long way to go. His game yesterday was very Tyrod like. Anointing him the savior of the Bears is very premature in my opinion. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 54 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Did Fields secretly play well against third stringers, or did I miss something ? Fields didn’t save anyone yesterday imo. Great article on Trubisky embarrassing the Bears though. I greatly enjoyed watching that, after being the guy who said preseason story lines don’t do much for me. I’m glad I was wrong. https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEKEpmhqN6Fn9HGrX7ONttqMqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowsbfwCjCm2LoCMKKS4wU?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen Saw this headline this morning and thought the same thing. WTH did his performance, against the guys who won’t make the Bills team, do to boost Chicago fan’s hope? This preseason game will be rehashed on TBD for years in a positive fashion. Something , no other preseason game has ever done in my memory. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, H2o said: Fields gives them the best chance to win behind that OL. He will be running for his life.....a lot. At least he will have some exciting moments. I think Nagy and Pace are both gone after this season. I also think Chicago is where Bienemy actually gets his first crack at a HC gig as well. Daboll landing spot??? Talk about putting out your “ Coaching prowess” resume for all to see. He took their garbage QB and smacked them in the mouth with him repeatedly and decisively. 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Had the Bills DEs made the adjustment to Fields over Dalton and simply kept their containment on the outside this thread would not have been started. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said: Daboll landing spot??? Talk about putting out your “ Coaching prowess” resume for all to see. He took their garbage QB and smacked them in the mouth with him repeatedly and decisively. And there are some Josh / Justin similarities. I could see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BfloBillsFan Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) While it’s an asset for a QB to extend plays and/or make some runs.. it’s their arm that will make them a great one. Need to see more from Fields throwing the ball, then we can start talking about being a starting QB let alone a franchise one Edited August 23, 2021 by BfloBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Daboll landing spot??? Talk about putting out your “ Coaching prowess” resume for all to see. He took their garbage QB and smacked them in the mouth with him repeatedly and decisively. It's possible, but it's also the preseason where many of a team's starting unit isn't on the field. I put yesterday's performance more on Trubisky. You know he was hype and super dialed in all week long for his shot at Chicago. He went out and executed. Mitch was not a "garbage QB" in his time there. Two trips to the playoffs and was a double-doink away from leading a comeback victory against the defending SB champs. He just didn't match up the return with what they shelled out for him. Then combine that with how they passed on some other QB's they shouldn't have to take him, Nagy/Pace doing whatever they possibly can trying to save their jobs, and here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Fields going 9-19 for 80 yards (4.2 YPA) against 3rd stringers and players who won't be in football in about 2 weeks isn't cause to celebrate. And what Mitchell did, playing with a lot of Bills non-starters, to their starting defense was humiliating. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Fields was 9 of 19, yes he is a rookie so not a reason for alarm. The Bears brass looked incompetent for letting Mitch go tho.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Said it last night they have to start Fields for me. Dalton is totally shot. He was bad last year in Dallas I don't know who watched that and decided he was the answer. They are in a bit of a mess because Fields isn't ready and is raw and reminds me in many ways of Josh in his rookie pre-season but whereas at that point McDermott and Beane were at the start of something, had the credit in the bank of breaking the drought and could afford to let Josh take his lumps as a rook, Nagy and Pace are on the hotseat. If they don't win they are out. Dysfunctional mess. Which is basically what the Bears have been since they fired Lovie Smith. Dalton had none of his starting WRs on the field. I don't think teams make decisions based on a preseason game results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, ganesh said: Dalton had none of his starting WRs on the field. I don't think teams make decisions based on a preseason game results. Mitch Trubisky had no starting WRs either ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, ganesh said: Dalton had none of his starting WRs on the field. I don't think teams make decisions based on a preseason game results. Actually, he had everyone except Robinson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: 10 million for Andy Dalton? Inflation is killing this country What is really odd is they also have Foles on roster. Two very experienced QBs and one rookie who looks good running around but does not know how to buckle his helmet properly. The Bears fans of course like the rookie for he is exciting but you cannot build a team on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, artmalibu said: Fields was 9 of 19, yes he is a rookie so not a reason for alarm. The Bears brass looked incompetent for letting Mitch go tho.... I fear Fields will be in the same boat as Burrow. They are both quality QB prospects who are victims of incompetent franchises. Chicago probably did make the right move letting Trubisky go, but they stepped in with their Dalton and Foles moves. Oh, and their work on the OL has been a joke. No many rookies can take the beating Allen did. Burrow couldn’t and it’s doubtful Fields can if/when he gets thrown out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, H2o said: It's possible, but it's also the preseason where many of a team's starting unit isn't on the field. I put yesterday's performance more on Trubisky. You know he was hype and super dialed in all week long for his shot at Chicago. He went out and executed. Mitch was not a "garbage QB" in his time there. Two trips to the playoffs and was a double-doink away from leading a comeback victory against the defending SB champs. He just didn't match up the return with what they shelled out for him. Then combine that with how they passed on some other QB's they shouldn't have to take him, Nagy/Pace doing whatever they possibly can trying to save their jobs, and here we are. Garbage in the sense they threw him away. I agree he was a competent starter and I’m surprised we got him. As to how Chicago viewed yesterday, they are the ones who over drafted MT so I’m holding their scouting prowess suspect at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, ganesh said: Dalton had none of his starting WRs on the field. I don't think teams make decisions based on a preseason game results. No, and nor did Fields. I know what Dalton is. I saw it last year in Dallas. It is bad. And that was WITH Cooper and Zeke and Gallup and CeeDee and a better line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Said it last night they have to start Fields for me. Dalton is totally shot. He was bad last year in Dallas I don't know who watched that and decided he was the answer. They are in a bit of a mess because Fields isn't ready and is raw and reminds me in many ways of Josh in his rookie pre-season but whereas at that point McDermott and Beane were at the start of something, had the credit in the bank of breaking the drought and could afford to let Josh take his lumps as a rook, Nagy and Pace are on the hotseat. If they don't win they are out. Dysfunctional mess. Which is basically what the Bears have been since they fired Lovie Smith. McD started Peterman ahead of Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: McD started Peterman ahead of Josh Indeed at it lasted 30 minutes of football. Same as the Texans starting Tom Savage instead of Watson. Dalton will go the same way IMO. While his career is clearly ahead of a Peterman or Savage his play last year was really bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Fields will go on to be a great qb but he's a rookie. He's going to take his lumps. At times he will look lost and struggle with playbook and have bad games. But the talent is undeniably there. It's just going to take time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Fields will go on to be a great qb but he's a rookie. He's going to take his lumps. At times he will look lost and struggle with playbook and have bad games. But the talent is undeniably there. It's just going to take time Where? He runs scatter brained like the cops are chasing him, but he has no plan and his passes are NOT NFL worthy. Yet another in decades-long futility for Da Bears QB issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I've said I think he'll be a bust, but seeing Josh had told me to give a QB until his 3rd season to show something. So I'll reserve final judgment until then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, FLFan said: Fields was fun to watch and certainly more dynamic than Dalton, but he has a long way to go. His game yesterday was very Tyrod like. Anointing him the savior of the Bears is very premature in my opinion. Hearing the game announcers talk up his "athleticism" and play making with his legs sounded awfully familiar to me yesterday. It's almost as if they really didn't have anything else to talk about with him. Hmm....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 hours ago, SirAndrew said: Did Fields secretly play well against third stringers, or did I miss something ? Fields didn’t save anyone yesterday imo. Great article on Trubisky embarrassing the Bears though. I greatly enjoyed watching that, after being the guy who said preseason story lines don’t do much for me. I’m glad I was wrong. It's obvious that Fields has more raw talent than Dalton. Unfortunately for him how good he'll become depends on the Bears coaches. He has Josh Allen's potential but it has to be developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: McDermott and Beane were at the start of something, had the credit in the bank of breaking the drought and could afford to let Josh take his lumps as a rook, Nagy and Pace are on the hotseat. If they don't win they are out. Sadly, Fields will have a nicely improved sophomore year when Daboll arrives as his new HC. 😥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 47 minutes ago, Doc said: Actually, he had everyone except Robinson. I did not notice Diggs or Beasley. 11 minutes ago, Doc said: I've said I think he'll be a bust, but seeing Josh had told me to give a QB until his 3rd season to show something. So I'll reserve final judgment until then. Something? Did you completely miss Josh's first two seasons. He showed tons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 A lot of guy have/had the physical tools. It's the mental ability that's the difference. 1 minute ago, Chaos said: Something? Did you completely miss Josh's first two seasons. He showed tons. Fair point. But I didn't think he'd become a top-flight passer like he showed last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No, and nor did Fields. I know what Dalton is. I saw it last year in Dallas. It is bad. And that was WITH Cooper and Zeke and Gallup and CeeDee and a better line. I agree. I was majorly disappointed in Dalton last year. When Dak went down I thought no big deal. Dalton is going to do pretty well with one of the best offensive supporting casts he's played with. Then he proceeded to play like crap. I like what I see from Fields. They should throw Dalton out there as a sacrificial lame to start the season on the road against Aaron Donald sort of how the Bills started Peterman on the road against the Ravens. Let Fields play in mop up duty or start the following week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Doc said: A lot of guy have/had the physical tools. It's the mental ability that's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: He doesn't have the mental aspect or great arm strength and he's a statue in the pocket. Other than that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: He doesn't have the mental aspect or great arm strength and he's a statue in the pocket. Other than that... 0 tool player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 hours ago, SirAndrew said: Did Fields secretly play well against third stringers, or did I miss something ? Fields didn’t save anyone yesterday imo. Great article on Trubisky embarrassing the Bears though. I greatly enjoyed watching that, after being the guy who said preseason story lines don’t do much for me. I’m glad I was wrong. 9 out of 19 (47% completion) for 80 yds (4.2 ypa) plus 46 yds on the ground. Punt, TOD, TD, Punt, FG, TOD. One could argue that Dalton did better with 11/17 (64.7% completion) for 146 (8.6 ypa), 1 TD 1 INT - it would actually translate to almost 300 yds passing over a game. But, Fields is the New Shiny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: Actually, he had everyone except Robinson. I'm not that familiar with the Bears starting lineup. This article seems to think they did not play starters: https://www.nfl.com/news/nagy-reiterates-andy-dalton-will-start-week-1-for-bears-we-need-to-see-him-in-th Quote Chicago sat a majority of its starters -- including David Montgomery, Allen Robinson, Cole Kmet and some O-linemen -- so the reasoning behind the extended look at Dalton wasn't to build rapport with the first-string players. I'm not familiar with the Bears roster so I can't tell you who, on this list, is expected to start: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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