Warcodered Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 From what he talked about in his post it seems like his main issue is the rules against meeting with family/people outside. Which if that's the case it doesn't matter as much to me it's hard to think they should be more restricted than the rest of us are. But in the facility he should definitely follow protocols other wise he's forcing his decision on everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: The Westboro Baptist Church speaks their minds and stands by their principals do you have to respect them? If your principals are garbage you standing by them makes no difference to the merit of your argument. To clarify not necessarily saying that Cole's principals (which are dubious) are equivalent to the WBC but rather just standing by something add no value to it. Amazing! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 yikes. I totally support him choosing to not get the vaccine, but this isn’t a good look. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I get both sides of it. He has every right to not get the shot. Of course he does. But the government and employers have a right and really an obligation to set workplace rules. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Cole Beasley tripping. Get it don't or don't get it. You just know he's about to write a song about this. Gold Star for you on this 🤣 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: Isn't more than 50 % of the team unvaccinated? Where are the rest of the players to back him up on this? Can’t imagine many players will back up Cole’s stance . It’s fine to choose not to get vaccinated as it’s a personal choice . But then to say that you won’t follow social distancing requirements is idiotic . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Give em' that D Bease!!! I'm rocking this jersey hard. We assume it with you, but dont need the visual. Thanks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: So we could sign Steven Nelson AND trade for Ertz? Sign me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 im cool w his stance, but he's choosing the wrong hill to die on. one thing i've learned from old school guys vs everyone under the age of 40 today, back then (mostly before my time) people got up to stuff, did dirt, and had crazy opinions and such that would get them cancelled today, but they tended not to air these things. I've heard stories about guys working together where one guy would be some kind of che type communist and the other some kind of crypto fascist, and they'd have various arguments and so on, but it was kept behind the curtain and no one bladed anyone on anything. I think social media was the death of private life for people in the public eye, and many people outside of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Regardless of where you stand on the subject - one of our stars outwardly saying he will not abide by the rules of the league is a huge issue. We're now facing, at best, a season where Cole will be fined and suspended on the regular. Think we seriously need to prepare for a season without him, at this point. This is correct....regardless of where you stand on this issue.....this might create a "real world" issue of him not being available on game day. I personally like Cole.....but if he does something to hurt my team that could change very quickly 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Of course he does. But the government and employers have a right and really an obligation to set workplace rules. I'm not so sure. The legal issues around the vaccine haven't really been adjudicated yet. We're in new territory. Edited June 18, 2021 by Pokebball 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Process said: So we could sign Steven Nelson AND trade for Ertz? Sign me up! Ertz plays in the slot vs zone 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 So positives to take away from this........he really wants a Super Bowl? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, Pokebball said: I'm not so sure. The issues around the vaccine haven't really been adjudicated yet. We're in new territory. Schools mandate your kids get the polio vaccine among others in order to attend them. This also isn't an employer saying you can't be an employee without getting a vaccine you are still allowed to play in the NFL while being unvaccinated, you just have to comply to other protocols to keep you and your teammates safe. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Sean ain't clapping tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Pokebball said: I'm not so sure. The issues around the vaccine haven't really been adjudicated yet. We're in new territory. Isnt it pretty cut and dry at this point? Those who dont vax are going to have to jump through hoops.......if they dont jump through those hoops....they wont be available on game day. Or am I missing something? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: "We respect each player's decision on the vaccination is their own, and while we continue to educate our players and hope they decide to get the vaccine, we know we have a number of players who will not, and are totally fine with that as they are still on the team. However, we also made a decision as a team to not speak out about it or let it become a distraction, and Cole was unable to follow that. Nor would he agree to follow the protocols agreed to by the NFL and NFLPA. We provided him plenty of ways and opportunities to contact his union reps and work with the NFLPA, but he was unwilling to do so. So we made the decision to move on since we are trying to stay unified as a team, and move forward into a re-opened 2021." -Brandon Beane Boom, cut. But if he's willing to retire over it all, than problem solved. Subservience is a virtue, I guess. By "we will educate the players" they really just mean "try to force them to get vaccinated" Yes, let's get excited to cut our second best receiver because he wants to have a choice without being treated like a leper. Lunacy. I personally got the shot just so I can get my freedom papers, but just make the damn thing mandatory because it effectively is anyway. Your choice is get the shot and get your papers to participate in society, or don't and be cast out. It's not really a choice. 2 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) LOOOOOOOL Beasley saying if he infects other people, it's God's Will. Edited June 18, 2021 by DrDawkinstein 1 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: LOOOOOOOL 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Isnt it pretty cut and dry at this point? Those who dont vax are going to have to jump through hoops.......if they dont jump through those hoops....they wont be available on game day. Or am I missing something? Only if he tests positive or a close contact. The team can fine him if he goes out with his family, etc I think, but he can still play as long he’s not on the COVID list. Of course, vaccinated players will be tested once every two weeks and can also be put on the list if they test positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: At last report , the Bills were one of the teams over 50% and climbing every day. Only a handful of teams are under that 50% mark (Jags, Colts, Chargers) He said STANDS for principals. That's why he doesnt have a problem with this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, Process said: There is a protocol thread where Cole is being discussed but he probably deserves his own thread at this point. Im getting pretty dang close to rooting for the Bills to cut him. I was already thinking he's likely to get cut next off-season, might as well just do it now and let some of the young guys get some playing time. So now we get down to it. This isn't about Cole Beasley wanting to protect himself and his family from vaccinated teammates who might go out to dinner and bring Covid-19 back to the WR room and infect him. This isn't about Cole Beasley not getting clarity on NFL/NFLPA protocols. The only outcome acceptable to Cole Beasley, that he thinks the NFLPA should have fought for, is for no mandatory vaccine AND no protocols restricting unvaccinated players. ***** the rights of any players who might not want to be exposed to covid (vaccination is maybe 85% effective against current variants), ***** any concerns of the team to have their stars available all season, and the NFL's concern to deliver a quality product. So much for Beane and McDermott saying this won't be a distraction to the team or any desire by team leaders to keep contention internal. Welp, the Bills are certainly in the Forefront this season and it's not for good reasons. 14 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 This is great news! In the past when the bills were bickering Divas they were at their best! Super bowl here we come! 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 He was my favorite Bill until now. Screw him. It’s like a hex I put on my favorite Bills. Kiko Alonso was in 2013 7 3 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I get both sides of it. He has every right to not get the shot. And the NFL/Bills have every right to fire him. It reminds me of when people lean on freedom of speech. “I CAN SAY WHATEVER I WANT!! FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!”. It just means you won’t go to jail. It doesn’t mean your employer can’t fire you. Beasley is one of my favorite players on the field. But his tweets are going off the rails, mentioning “Gods will” (maybe God’s will was to put scientists and doctors on earth to develop a vaccine, but I digress). Fine. Don’t get the vaccine; but shut up. Or retire. I was really hoping a Bills player would show up on the front page of ESPN.com this off-season…. 5 2 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Process said: Lmao. You don't automatically get respect for speaking your mind. You don't get respect when what's on your mind is complete nonsense, and you are acting like a clown, like Cole is. Sometimes it amazes me how foreign empathy is to some people. Not everyone thinks like you, and not everyone values the same things you do. I hate to say this, but that doesn't automatically make them a bad person. Someone actually took Cole's stance, not on general vaccines, but on just this particular one and compared it directly to people who picket the funerals of gay people. Like, what? Edited June 18, 2021 by Boxcar 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Are we now once again the bickering Bills? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Only if he tests positive or a close contact. The team can fine him if he goes out with his family, etc I think, but he can still play as long he’s not on the COVID list. Of course, vaccinated players will be tested once every two weeks and can also be put on the list if they test positive. Right but isnt that the whole point If he comes up positive.....he cant play which could affect our entire offensive game plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: This is great news! In the past when the bills were bickering Divas they were at their best! Super bowl here we come! I actually thought this last night too. I can only imagine the crap that we would have seen if that team in 1988 had social media accounts. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, DJB said: Are we now once again the bickering Bills? I hope so! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 Elijah Moore would look sooooo good in a bills uni right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, DJB said: Are we now once again the bickering Bills? Nope. Just like every human being, the Bills just have one butthole. Edited June 18, 2021 by stevestojan 1 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Boxcar said: Sometimes it amazes me how foreign empathy is to some people. Not everyone thinks like you, and not everyone values the same things you do. I hate to say this, but that doesn't automatically make them a bad person. Someone actually took Cole's stance, not on general vaccines, but on just this particular one and compared it directly to people who picket the funerals of gay people. Like, what? You arent understanding what he is saying here. This is beyond his choice to not get vaccinated. No one cared about that. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: LOOOOOOOL Beasley saying if he infects other people, it's God's Will. I thought God gave me brains so I could earn a PhD and design manufacturing processes for vaccines to prevent infections and medications to treat them? If God didn't want me to do that *****, he shoulda made me fast strong and dumb 9 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: LOOOOOOOL Beasley saying if he infects other people, it's God's Will. 1 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: This is great news! In the past when the bills were bickering Divas they were at their best! Super bowl here we come! But only the FOLLOWING year, after they learnt some humility and how to get along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellDopeland Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I'm done with him. He's gotta go. He's now become a full-blown distraction for this organization...a colossal pain the a$$! He obviously has lacked the intelligence or common deceny to handle this behind closed doors- in other words- the sensible way. Thusly, he should be sent packing; and as soon as possible! He's gangrenous. 3 2 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Right but isnt that the whole point If he comes up positive.....he cant play which could affect our entire offensive game plan Yes, it’s a possibility he could test positive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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