Hey Levon... You made the wrong choice

[Lothar]

4 hours ago, kirkwoodus13 said:

Yes  the name was not spelled correctly.. But did you not know to whom I was referring to? Agree or disagree with my opinion and keep it moving. You guys obliviously have nothing better to do. This a football forum not an English/ spelling/ class.

Obliviously not.

[Royale with Cheese]

7 hours ago, kirkwoodus13 said:

LeVeon Bell has not all of a sudden forgotten how to play football. Andy Reid is the most overrated coach in NFL history. Adam Gase is probably the worst head coach in NFL history. The Jets and Detroit  Lions are maybe the worst run organizations in history. He is way better than anything we have. If Josh Allen  played for Adam Gase he would probably be in Carolina right now. Player are hindered by their environment. Bring him to Buffalo and watch this man remind everyone why he was an all pro. 

 

P.S: This a football forum, if you want to discuss a miss spelled name, please don't comment  on this topic. Thank you

It has nothing to do if he forgot how to play football.  Sometimes players, especially running backs play just drops suddenly. 
 

Reid knows offense, he’s one of the best offensive coaches there has ever been.  He didn’t see enough from him to keep him active….they were better at RB without him.

[YoloinOhio]

At least he has his music career to fall back on 

[Simon Says]

Levon Helm?

[Bills Survivor]

22 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Who is Levon?

 

22 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Levon sells cartoon balloons in town. His family business thrives. 

Wow that guy tossed you an alleyoop there . Well played.

Edited June 15, 2021 by Bills Survivor

[Augie]

23 minutes ago, Bills Survivor said:

 

Wow that guy tossed you an alleyoop there . Well played.

 

The easier play was:

 

Levon, Levon likes his money

He makes a lot of it they say….

 

 

But who doesn’t love a cartoon balloon???    

 

 

 

 

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Edited June 15, 2021 by Augie

[kirkwoodus13]

Our two lead backs are slow and strikes no fear in the defense.. These guys are seeing light boxes and can’t get the job done. Speaking of washed up, what’s has Breida done in this league. At least we know Bell has been a dominant rusher in this league. The last time he had was in an explosive offense with the Steelers what did he produced. The weak links in this offense are the running backs and the tight ends.The Bills ain’t winning nothing without upgrading one of those groups. Bell instantly gives this run game some respect. Obviously the coach and the GM felt that way last year because they were all in trying to get him. 

[ROCBillsBeliever]

3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

He "pulled into Nazareth"...  Let's get it right  

 

 

I'm showing my (lack of) age, LOL. 

[Augie]

16 minutes ago, kirkwoodus13 said:

Our two lead backs are slow and strikes no fear in the defense.. These guys are seeing light boxes and can’t get the job done. Speaking of washed up, what’s has Breida done in this league. At least we know Bell has been a dominant rusher in this league. The last time he had was in an explosive offense with the Steelers what did he produced. The weak links in this offense are the running backs and the tight ends.The Bills ain’t winning nothing without upgrading one of those groups. Bell instantly gives this run game some respect. Obviously the coach and the GM felt that way last year because they were all in trying to get him. 

 

Singletary has a career YPC of 4.8 and Moss was 4.3 YPC carry last year as a rookie while being a top rated back in pass protection. 

 

Bell is old, and only did well behind an overpowering offensive line. He got to wait and pick a hole 4 yards past the LOS. Our guys were usually hit by the LOS. 

 

Please provide something more than your misguided gut reaction. 

 

Unless, of course, you are his mother or his agent. In that case, I’ll give you credit for your desperate attempt. 

 

 

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Edited June 15, 2021 by Augie

[EasternOHBillsFan]

32 minutes ago, kirkwoodus13 said:

Our two lead backs are slow and strikes no fear in the defense.. These guys are seeing light boxes and can’t get the job done. Speaking of washed up, what’s has Breida done in this league. At least we know Bell has been a dominant rusher in this league. The last time he had was in an explosive offense with the Steelers what did he produced. The weak links in this offense are the running backs and the tight ends.The Bills ain’t winning nothing without upgrading one of those groups. Bell instantly gives this run game some respect. Obviously the coach and the GM felt that way last year because they were all in trying to get him. 

 

Ain't no way Levon Bale gonna save the Bils and they ain't gonna win no champeenship cause of that Levon guy you crazy dood

Edited June 15, 2021 by EasternOHBillsFan

[QLBillsFan]

1 hour ago, kirkwoodus13 said:

 At least we know Bell has been a dominant rusher in this league. The last time he had was in an explosive offense with the Steelers what did he produced. The weak links in this offense are the running backs and the tight ends.The Bills ain’t winning nothing without upgrading one of those groups. Bell instantly gives this run game some respect. Obviously the coach and the GM felt that way last year because they were all in trying to get him. 

Yes he played well for the Steelers where he fit in with an outstanding line and a balanced offense. They helped him thrive in his peak years. He responded by turning down 14m per year which he never recovered from.
Subsequently he has done absolutely nothing. He is not currently viewed as a fast guy. Do the Bills have a great running back group ? No, but can they win with them-yes. Is Bell an upgrade at this time ? No …. 

[BananaB]

37 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Yes he played well for the Steelers where he fit in with an outstanding line and a balanced offense. They helped him thrive in his peak years. He responded by turning down 14m per year which he never recovered from.
Subsequently he has done absolutely nothing. He is not currently viewed as a fast guy. Do the Bills have a great running back group ? No, but can they win with them-yes. Is Bell an upgrade at this time ? No …. 

Can we beat the teams we need to beat to win the Super Bowl with these RBs is a better question. I’m not sure we can. Is Bell a better option? no one really knows. At this point he’s just  another option at a possible upgrade, not many of those around at this time. 

[QLBillsFan]

24 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Can we beat the teams we need to beat to win the Super Bowl with these RBs is a better question. I’m not sure we can. Is Bell a better option? no one really knows. At this point he’s just  another option at a possible upgrade, not many of those around at this time. 

Again just don’t think he’s an upgrade.  Nor a process guy. Do you actually think he would be the featured back for the Bills at this point ?  So more likely option two or three at best. Given his lack of acceptance of a limited role don’t think he’s a fit. 

[GunnerBill]

On 6/14/2021 at 5:02 AM, FireChans said:

He also looked kinda washed in KC.

 

I think there’s a decent chance this dude is cooked.

 

Yea so do I. At a vet minimum sort of deal it might be worth it.... but I am not guaranteeing him anything.

[machine gun kelly]

He’s not only done, but one of his teammates stated when anything goes wrong he always blames someone else.  He had some carries mid season, but they kept going down for a reason and Helaire was getting more and more time on the field.

 

Lastly, why would anyone want to bring in a disgruntled RB, that slams a SB Coach in Reid.  Reid is well known for being a great players coach.

 

Id never want that cancer in our locker room.  Some people keep thinking he’s the RB producing like the time with the Steelers.  Those days are over.

[Rochesterfan]

7 hours ago, kirkwoodus13 said:

Our two lead backs are slow and strikes no fear in the defense.. These guys are seeing light boxes and can’t get the job done. Speaking of washed up, what’s has Breida done in this league. At least we know Bell has been a dominant rusher in this league. The last time he had was in an explosive offense with the Steelers what did he produced. The weak links in this offense are the running backs and the tight ends.The Bills ain’t winning nothing without upgrading one of those groups. Bell instantly gives this run game some respect. Obviously the coach and the GM felt that way last year because they were all in trying to get him. 

 

So Last years KC offense wasn’t explosive?  I am pretty sure it was more explosive than the Pittsburgh offenses and he produced less than our current RBs.  Bell gives the offense no respect because he has not produced in 4 years.  Our GM went after him to replace our #4 back last year and obviously doesn’t feel the same way as Bell has no offers and now Bell threw a highly respected HC under the bus and the KC players are even calling Bell out for a lack for not understanding he was the problem.

 

Once again troll - fix your title to the correct name because we all know:

 

Levon, Levon likes his money

He’s made a lot they say

Spends his days counting

In a garage by the motorway

 

and in his stupidity he cost himself NFL opportunity and nearly 14 million more.

[BananaB]

3 hours ago, QLBillsFan said:

Again just don’t think he’s an upgrade.  Nor a process guy. Do you actually think he would be the featured back for the Bills at this point ?  So more likely option two or three at best. Given his lack of acceptance of a limited role don’t think he’s a fit. 

That’s fine. I think he’s an option. Don’t trust our RBs at all. Just like Bell they haven’t done much lately to gain any trust. Yeah, they are great team players but sometimes that doesn’t get the job done. Bell struggled in NY just like everyone else on that ***** team. Hard to make a huge impact in that situation. When he went to KC what were you expecting? He played a  small role in the offense, doesn’t matter if the starter went down, that’s all he was ever gonna play. How many times has a guy went from one team to another and made a big impact mid season?

[BringBackFergy]

https://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/tyrann-mathieu-le-veon-bell-092435710.html
 

How many songs can we come up with for “Tyrod Matthew” or “Honey Weasel”?

[machine gun kelly]

You know I sent a pm to Kirkwood to be nice to him to change the title, as he was getting some ribbing yesterday and really surprised he doesn’t take two seconds to do it.

 

say it with me kirkwood, Le’Veon, Le’Veon, Le’Veon.

[K-9]

Bell don’t ring no mo. 

[JPP]

20 hours ago, NewEra said:

Break the bank?  Lol

Bell signed a 4 year 52 MILLION contract with the NY Jets....Great money spent for a washed up 3.6 yard per carry RB who appears to be a nuisance wherever he goes....LOL

[NewEra]

53 minutes ago, JPP said:

Bell signed a 4 year 52 MILLION contract with the NY Jets....Great money spent for a washed up 3.6 yard per carry RB who appears to be a nuisance wherever he goes....LOL

Yeah…..what does the contract he signed in 2019 have to do with him breaking the bank in 2021?  Do you expect him to get another contract that “breaks the bank”?

[JPP]

22 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yeah…..what does the contract he signed in 2019 have to do with him breaking the bank in 2021?  Do you expect him to get another contract that “breaks the bank”?

lol

[NewEra]

37 minutes ago, JPP said:

lol

🙄

[without a drought]

16 hours ago, mattynh said:

This clown lacks common sense. 

Are clowns known for their common sense?

[T master]

What a ass hat the dude basically calls one of the most respected coaches in the league a liar while he's looking for a job man him & AB were made for each other but just like AB you know some one will give him a shot and he still won't be happy they need to just need to leave these kinds of players to the curb .

[JPP]

6 hours ago, NewEra said:

🙄

LOL...yeah ok keep pushin the Le'veon Bell theory wont cost too much and worth it....LOL...

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, JPP said:

LOL...yeah ok keep pushin the Le'veon Bell theory wont cost too much and worth it....LOL...

I didn’t push anything…..I said bring him in and take a look at him. Dude isn’t gonna get paid Jack ****.   I’d say 2.5M max…,most likely vet minimum or his career will be over.

 

@JPP  how much $ do you think Leveon is going to get?

Edited June 16, 2021 by NewEra

[billsintaiwan]

On 6/14/2021 at 11:29 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

Who is Levon?

He's a good man

[JPP]

13 hours ago, NewEra said:

I didn’t push anything…..I said bring him in and take a look at him. Dude isn’t gonna get paid Jack ****.   I’d say 2.5M max…,most likely vet minimum or his career will be over.

 

@JPP  how much $ do you think Leveon is going to get?

The whole point is how much he thinks of himself and what his agent(s) are going to be asking for.....I dont think his ego will allow him to seek anything around 2.5 mill

[Simon]

On 6/15/2021 at 11:05 AM, JPP said:

Bell signed a 4 year 52 MILLION contract with the NY Jets

I remember that was my favorite signing of that entire offseason.

I still laugh thinking about it. 

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, JPP said:

The whole point is how much he thinks of himself and what his agent(s) are going to be asking for.....I dont think his ego will allow him to seek anything around 2.5 mill

My whole point is…..no one is going to pay him more.  No one.  So…..it’s retire or sign for pennies.  If he wants his career to continue, he’ll be signing a one year deal with a team that can give him a chance to flourish again.  We wouldn’t be “breaking the bank”  

[TheFunPolice]

I wouldn't sign a malcontent, washed up,  slow RB that has been totally ineffective on 2 teams now since holding out an entire season for more money if he would come here for a nickel. 

 

We've got a guy in Singletary who is process personified, and is a better back today than Bell. I'm excited to see how his work with a speed coach pays off. 

 

Bills have dodged 2 disasters now in AB and Bell. Sometimes not getting a guy in FA/trade is a blessing. 

 

 

[billsfan_34]

On 6/13/2021 at 11:24 PM, kirkwoodus13 said:

This man should be a Bill right now.. it’s no secret the Bills were extremely interested in signing him but he choose the easy road for a championship. He is better than every back we have right now. He needs carries and reps. His pass protection/blocking has always been excellent. He runs route like a receiver. The only question is his health and the fact that he sign to play with the JETS and Adam Gase. He is perfect for this scheme. Bring this man in and let him compete to be that Number 1 and only lead back. We need a back that can make the defense respect our running game . Two third round pick and a wash up Brieda is not going to get it done. Please Ring the Bell Mr. Beane

Have you watched him run the past 2 seasons? Bell has lost a step and is a cancer- hard pass.

[billsfan_34]

On 6/13/2021 at 11:52 PM, IgotBILLStopay said:

Not a bad thought. At this point, he can be had for the minimum - so it likely wont affect the cap. And he does have an animosity towards Andy Reid - which will make him extra motivated for the KC game. Maybe sign him just before that game:)

No- guy is a cancer- our culture says not a chance he is welcomed here. 

[Rochesterfan]

39 minutes ago, NewEra said:

My whole point is…..no one is going to pay him more.  No one.  So…..it’s retire or sign for pennies.  If he wants his career to continue, he’ll be signing a one year deal with a team that can give him a chance to flourish again.  We wouldn’t be “breaking the bank”  

 

My issue with this is wasn’t that what KC was supposed to be.  He was paid by the NYJ - signed a deal in KC to get a shot at a ring and show he could still play.  He couldn’t beat out an UDFA when CEH was injured and then threw the coach under the bus.  KC teammates then came to Reid’s defense and basically said “He didn’t work hard enough and if there were issues to look in the mirror”.  Not a ringing endorsement of Bell.

 

Then assume you sign him for “pennies” - even 2.5 million or less - how motivated is he really going to be to come to another team and play on a cheap deal?  He was not real motivated on a championship team last year.  He blasted a pretty player friendly coach that most guys really seem to love to play for.

 

If you got Bell of 4-5 years ago - a guy that seemed motivated and still wanted to be the best - that would be a guy I offer a cheap contract and hope to revive.  The current Bell showed money was most important when he walked away from Pittsburgh and threw that team under the bus.  Then in NY after signing a huge deal - he was never able to do anything and threw that team under a bus.  KC was supposed to be the perfect fit - an offensive HC coming off a championship.  A team that likes to use RBs both running and catching the ball.  A near perfect fit and Bell couldn’t get into that team having nearly 1/2 a season to pick things up.

 

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

My issue with this is wasn’t that what KC was supposed to be.  He was paid by the NYJ - signed a deal in KC to get a shot at a ring and show he could still play.  He couldn’t beat out an UDFA when CEH was injured and then threw the coach under the bus.  KC teammates then came to Reid’s defense and basically said “He didn’t work hard enough and if there were issues to look in the mirror”.  Not a ringing endorsement of Bell.

 

Then assume you sign him for “pennies” - even 2.5 million or less - how motivated is he really going to be to come to another team and play on a cheap deal?  He was not real motivated on a championship team last year.  He blasted a pretty player friendly coach that most guys really seem to love to play for.

 

If you got Bell of 4-5 years ago - a guy that seemed motivated and still wanted to be the best - that would be a guy I offer a cheap contract and hope to revive.  The current Bell showed money was most important when he walked away from Pittsburgh and threw that team under the bus.  Then in NY after signing a huge deal - he was never able to do anything and threw that team under a bus.  KC was supposed to be the perfect fit - an offensive HC coming off a championship.  A team that likes to use RBs both running and catching the ball.  A near perfect fit and Bell couldn’t get into that team having nearly 1/2 a season to pick things up.

 

After reading that, I have no clue what your issue is with what I had said.   
 

I’m not saying we should sign him…..

I’m not saying that he will be a great fit with any team or situation…

I’m not saying that he’ll be any good…..

 

 

I’m saying that he won’t “break the bank” as one poster said….

I’m saying that he will likely take the minimum salary for a team that he thinks can showcase his skills…..or he will have to retire because no one will pay him more…..

I said previously that it can’t hurt to bring him in for a workout and see what he has…..

 

So you’re saying what?  What do you disagree with? 

 

 

[Rochesterfan]

19 minutes ago, NewEra said:

After reading that, I have no clue what your issue is with what I had said.   
 

I’m not saying we should sign him…..

I’m not saying that he will be a great fit with any team or situation…

I’m not saying that he’ll be any good…..

 

 

I’m saying that he won’t “break the bank” as one poster said….

I’m saying that he will likely take the minimum salary for a team that he thinks can showcase his skills…..or he will have to retire because no one will pay him more…..

I said previously that it can’t hurt to bring him in for a workout and see what he has…..

 

So you’re saying what?  What do you disagree with? 

 

 

 

I am saying - I wouldn’t even bring him in at vet minimum.  
 

He wasn’t motivated to perform in NY with a big salary or KC on a championship level team - I don’t see him being more motivated to come in and play for a minimum/low salary for a coach that wants you to earn your playing time.

 

I see him taking the money from some team - complaining about being underutilized and thinking it is once again an issue with the 4th different team that is the problem. 

Edited June 16, 2021 by Rochesterfan

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

I am saying - I wouldn’t even bring him in at vet minimum.  
 

He wasn’t motivated to perform in NY with a big salary or KC on a championship level team - I don’t see him being more motivated to come in and play for a minimum/low salary for a coach that wants you to earn your playing time.

 

I see him taking the money from some team - complaining about being underutilized and thinking it is once again an issue with the 4th different team that is the problem. 

Ok….. cool.  
 

i didn’t say that we should bring him in for the minimum…..I said we should bring him in.  Watch him.  Talk to him.  Then decide…..as opposed to just closing the door because of a hunch

Edited June 16, 2021 by NewEra

[Rochesterfan]

Just now, NewEra said:

Ok….. cool.  

 

I don’t disagree with what you said - I just wouldn’t personally sign him.  
 

I totally agree that he will most likely have to take a minimum/low salary to rehabilitate himself.

 

I am just not sure he cares enough about football to do that well.