QBs on New Teams

[CA OC Bills Fan]

A couple of days before the draft I was watching the NFL Network and they were talking about one of the QBs that's now on a new team. I started thinking about there being several former top draft choices that are on new teams and I unexpectedly started to realize that I kind of hope a few of them do well on their new team, for the most part, just to give their old team misery (i.e. especially the Jersey Jerks). Anyway, I was wondering what others thought. I originally was only going to include 1st round QBs that just went to a new team, but I couldn't resist including Fitzpatrick and then I decided to keep Winston on as well even though he was with the Saints last year and isn't yet considered the starter. And no, I had no intention of including Mitch Trubisky since we all hope he only plays after we've wrapped up  the #1 seed two weeks before the season ends. 

 

Edited June 12, 2021 by CA OC Bills Fan
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[Boxcar]

I don't really think Stafford or Fitz quite belong there. The others haven't been good and required a change of scenery, but changing teams is normal for Fitz and Stafford is already a very good QB and has been for his while career.

 

I'd love to see Darnold succeed. Poor guy got such a raw deal.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Six 'mistakes' in this poll...where do I cast my 'Rosen' vote? 🤔

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[GunnerBill]

Stafford's career doesn't need resurrecting. The team success has not been there but he has still played at a very good level. So I excluded him from that first question.

 

I think of the rest it breaks down as:

 

Sam Darnold - I think he will be a solid enough starter that Carolina will not draft a guy next year. However, if the legal situation resolves then them trading for Deshaun Watson after 2021 is very likely. 

 

Jared Goff - Was the sacrificial lamb in LA for issues that were some, but not all, of his making. But there is no talent around him. I think Detroit are in the conversation for the number 1 pick. 

 

Carson Wentz - I don't think it is fixable. Think he is fundamentally broken. Yes his protection sucked in Philly but he was also the worst rated QB in the league from a clean pocket in 2020. If anyone can Reich can but I predict Wentz is benched before the season ends and that is his last starting gig in the league. 

 

Jameis Winston - think he will play okay and on a team too talented to tank right now stands to be a placeholder for the next 2/3 years on a 9-8/8-9 type team. 

 

Matthew Stafford - think he will be the same top 12 QB he has always been but with more wins. 

 

Ryan Fitzpatrick - will start off hot but tire as the season goes on but could, finally, QB a team to a wildcard spot.

[CuseBill]

I think Carson Wentz will most benefit from a "reset" especially with his former coach Frank Reich and a good line in front of him.  He has the physical talent and (I think) the intelligence.  He had no support at the Eagles on any level (coaching, line, running game, receivers, defense) and I think he will regain his confidence in a short time.

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, CuseBill said:

I think Carson Wentz will most benefit from a "reset" especially with his former coach Frank Reich and a good line in front of him.  He has the physical talent and (I think) the intelligence.  He had no support at the Eagles on any level (coaching, line, running game, receivers, defense) and I think he will regain his confidence in a short time.

 

Worst QB in the NFL from a clean pocket in 2020. I think playing on a good Indy team will expose what the primary issue was.... it was Carson Wentz.

Edited June 12, 2021 by GunnerBill

[CuseBill]

Gunner, when you are always running for your life it gets into your head, clean pocket or not.  I think good coaching and increased confidence will fix that.  Frank will put him into a situation where he will be able to make quick decisions and get the ball out.  You can't deny Wentz has the physical tools.  I don't disagree with you that he almost never looked good last couple of years, but I don't think you can take one statistic and extrapolate it to make the conclusion that he has no chance to be good again.  You could pick some of JA's first and second year stats to make the same kind of dire predictions and look what he has done.  Ryan Tannehill is also the poster boy for what a change of scenery, better coaching and better support can do for your career.

[AmishRifle]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Worst QB in the NFL from a clean pocket in 2020. I think playing on a good Indy team will expose what the primary issue was.... it was Carson Wentz.

Gunner-can’t dispute the facts you lay out.  But, I think Frank Reich will make Wentz better.  The kid definitely needed to get out of a negative situation in Philly and reboot himself.

[YoloinOhio]

No Andy dalton?

 

I picked Darnold because he’s Josh’s friend and because it will piss off jets fans if he’s good 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, CuseBill said:

Gunner, when you are always running for your life it gets into your head, clean pocket or not.  I think good coaching and increased confidence will fix that.  Frank will put him into a situation where he will be able to make quick decisions and get the ball out.  You can't deny Wentz has the physical tools.  I don't disagree with you that he almost never looked good last couple of years, but I don't think you can take one statistic and extrapolate it to make the conclusion that he has no chance to be good again.  You could pick some of JA's first and second year stats to make the same kind of dire predictions and look what he has done.  Ryan Tannehill is also the poster boy for what a change of scenery, better coaching and better support can do for your career.

 

It wasn't just one stat. He has had about 6 good games in two years. Eventually some of that is on you. He had a Superbowl winning Head Coach who is regarded as one of the best play callers in the game. I watched Wentz play. I watched the breakdowns that pros did on his game last year. When you are misreading a simple hitch route when kept clean then that isn't on receiver talent or protection. It is on Carson Wentz.

[CuseBill]

On the other hand, look at his 2017 and 2018 stats and tell me what you see.  Passer ratings above 100, high TD to low INT percentages, etc.  So which years are the real Carson Wentz?  You can't say he has never been good.  He just hasn't been good the last two years and I'm willing to bet that can't all be put on him.

[Don Otreply]

Darnold and Goff imo have little to no chance, they are both back up QBs pretending to be starters, as are the majority of this group.  Wentz is the most likely to have a resurgence as an above average QB. Out side of Fitz, who is a the quintessential underdog, I don’t care much about any of their careers, and hope they flounder when and if the play the Bills, except on rare occasions, I truly hope they all fail miserably, as I generally never root for other teams to be successful, screw them all... 😁

 

Go Bills!!!

[eball]

28 minutes ago, CuseBill said:

You could pick some of JA's first and second year stats to make the same kind of dire predictions and look what he has done

 

Actually, no, you couldn’t.  Not if you watched the games.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Agree with those saying Stafford is too good to be an option, which is why I picked Wentz, who is back with Reich and a very solid supporting cast on both sides of the ball. 
 

And I get the Darnold thing, but Fitz is Fitz, and this year’s WFT seems fun like our McBeane era Bills. 

[CuseBill]

2 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Actually, no, you couldn’t.  Not if you watched the games.

eball I agree with you.  I'm saying anyone can take stats and make predictions from them.  But if you watch the game and watch the player and know something about football you wouldn't necessarily make those predictions.  I'm fond of saying "34.7% of all statistics are totally meaningless".

[Buffalo Boy]

    Not sold on Darnold or the Panther’s coaching on the offensive side. Rhule seems like a bit of a tool and Darnold is WAY too laid back. 
   

[Boxcar]

46 minutes ago, CuseBill said:

eball I agree with you.  I'm saying anyone can take stats and make predictions from them.  But if you watch the game and watch the player and know something about football you wouldn't necessarily make those predictions.  I'm fond of saying "34.7% of all statistics are totally meaningless".

I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'm really not understanding the lack of concern seemingly everyone has towards Wentz. He was literally the worst starting QB in football last year. I don't know why people think it will just take Frank Reich to make him good again.

 

You don't blow open the lead in interceptions solely due to bad coaching, which I'm not even convinced was the problem.

[Craig Oi]

Stafford stuck out big-time on this list as he has always been a upper tier QB but never had any chance to succeed in Detroit. No one could have in that situation. Fitz is who he is everyone loves him and he gets everyone around him to play their best.  He seems to be aging like fine wine as his numbers keep improving but he is still very hot & cold but man when he's HOT watch out! So if you exclude those guys it's not looking too good for the others on the list. Wentz seems to have completely come undone and I'm not sure if even Reich can fix him. Darnold was in a no win situation in NY much like Stafford was but I think his ceiling is only that of an average QB. Goff was in a very good spot in LA but proved to be too limited and was shipped out and is also just average. That leads me to Winston who has the highest ceiling of the remaining guys on the list and set up to succeed on a very good team. Can Peyton get his level of play to match the level of talent? That remains to be seen but is my best bet. As for the second question...I always have rooted for Fitz and it's so much easier when he's not in the AFCE. I would love to see him finally lead a team to the playoffs and at the cowboys expense is an extra bonus. 

[Thurman#1]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Stafford's career doesn't need resurrecting. The team success has not been there but he has still played at a very good level. So I excluded him from that first question.

 

I think of the rest it breaks down as:

 

Sam Darnold - I think he will be a solid enough starter that Carolina will not draft a guy next year. However, if the legal situation resolves then them trading for Deshaun Watson after 2021 is very likely. 

 

Jared Goff - Was the sacrificial lamb in LA for issues that were some, but not all, of his making. But there is no talent around him. I think Detroit are in the conversation for the number 1 pick. 

 

Carson Wentz - I don't think it is fixable. Think he is fundamentally broken. Yes his protection sucked in Philly but he was also the worst rated QB in the league from a clean pocket in 2020. If anyone can Reich can but I predict Wentz is benched before the season ends and that is his last starting gig in the league. 

 

Jameis Winston - think he will play okay and on a team too talented to tank right now stands to be a placeholder for the next 2/3 years on a 9-8/8-9 type team. 

 

Matthew Stafford - think he will be the same top 12 QB he has always been but with more wins. 

 

Ryan Fitzpatrick - will start off hot but tire as the season goes on but could, finally, QB a team to a wildcard spot.

 

 

You certainly could be right. 

 

I think Wentz will be a lot better in a situation where he doesn't feel a disconnect with the coaching staff as he did in Philly.

[chongli]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

No Andy dalton?

 

I picked Darnold because he’s Josh’s friend and because it will piss off jets fans if he’s good 

 

Also, Tyrod may start for Houston.

[whorlnut]

I think the choice in the first question is Stafford. He’s a very talented guy and now has weapons everywhere. For the second question…how is it NOT unanimous with Fitz?  One of the best guys to ever put on a helmet…

Edited June 13, 2021 by whorlnut

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

I think Stafford is going to light it up with the Rams this year. The Lions are a terrible organization that never seems to be able to put together a complete roster and besides Calvin Johnson (who he only had for half of his career) Stafford hasn't had elite weapons. On the other end of the trade, I think Goff will have a terrible season, showing just how good of an offensive coordinator McVay really is. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, CuseBill said:

I think Carson Wentz will most benefit from a "reset" especially with his former coach Frank Reich and a good line in front of him.  He has the physical talent and (I think) the intelligence.  He had no support at the Eagles on any level (coaching, line, running game, receivers, defense) and I think he will regain his confidence in a short time.

 

I think the problem with Wentz (from various reports) has been maybe too much support?

- Howie Roseman had a life-size picture of Carson Wentz on his office wall which reflected how Wentz was treated in the organization

- Roseman and Lurie gave him influence in the draft, FA, and coaching decisions even though he actually hadn't achieved that much

- Wentz didn’t always "take" to hard coaching or show personal accountability for mistakes

- Wentz would "kill" plays called by Pederson out of "personal dislike" for the play

- Wentz unwillingness to accept blame for his mistakes hurt him in the locker room

 

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For the first two years, the Eagles on the surface appeared to do everything right with Wentz. But a knee injury in 2017, and Nick Foles taking over and winning the Super Bowl altered the dynamic.  Roseman, owner Jeffrey Lurie, and other Eagles leaders, however, treated Wentz as if he had won that championship.

 

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Wentz’s Type-A personality could be credited just as much for his past success. Many top quarterbacks share the same trait. But the 28-year-old had increasingly rebuffed advice, defied criticism, and clashed with former coach Doug Pederson last season, Eagles sources said.
 

“Every great quarterback wants to be coached and they want to be coached hard and by the best, and it doesn’t seem like [Wentz] wants that,” one source said. “It’s kind of like whoever’s coaching him is working for him. But it can’t be that way.”

 

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“He doesn’t understand that he lost games for us,” a veteran player said. “He will never admit that and that’s a problem because he can’t get it corrected.”

 

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In the quarterback room, when his errors were pointed out, Wentz would sometimes make irrelevant excuses and Taylor wouldn’t correct him. For instance, there would be a play when he didn’t throw to an open receiver. The read was drawn up as designed, the coverage played out as expected, and he would be asked why he didn’t pull the trigger.

 

And Wentz would say the look wasn’t there, or he would overemphasize the pass rush, and when it was suggested the play be run again in practice as to get it right, he would object.

 

So here's the nutshell:

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John DeFillipo, Wentz’s first quarterback coach with the Eagles, coached him hard. Former offensive coordinator Frank Reich did as well. They had years of experience, though, and Wentz was just entering the NFL when he worked under them.

 

The question is whether watching the whole experience in Philly unfold will serve as a "gut check" for Wentz. 

Will he listen and accept the "hard coaching" under Reich and his OC Marcus Brady, who is going to be a first-year OC?

 

Or will he keep on as he is said to have done in Philly?

 

Unless it affects the Bills, I'd actually like to see Wentz become a redemption story.  But habits are hard to break.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

5 hours ago, CA OC Bills Fan said:

A couple of days before the draft I was watching the NFL Network and they were talking about one of the QBs that's now on a new team. I started thinking about there being several former top draft choices that are on new teams and I unexpectedly started to realize that I kind of hope a few of them do well on their new team, for the most part, just to give their old team misery (i.e. especially the Jersey Jerks). Anyway, I was wondering what others thought. I originally was only going to include 1st round QBs that just went to a new team, but I couldn't resist including Fitzpatrick and then I decided to keep Winston on as well even though he was with the Saints last year and isn't yet considered the starter. And no, I had no intention of including Mitch Trubisky since we all hope he only plays after we've wrapped up  the #1 seed two weeks before the season ends. 

 

 

I'm glad the people are smart enough to vote Matt Stafford for the 1st option. Along w/ obviously Fitzpatrick, he's my favorite non-Buffalo QB for sure. Not only is he going to be great in LA, he's going to be in the MVP conversation. McVay is a master play caller and he can literally open up the entire play book now.

 

I have a theory that the early-mid 30's are the prime years for a franchise QB in these current times due to all the advances in healthcare & training. A decade or 2 before, it was the mid-late 20's. My reason being they have all the built in wisdom from 10+ years of experience playing combined w/ all of their physical skills still in tact. A good example is Aaron Rodgers. I feel like he's playing the best football of his life. He still has a great arm and has the intelligent and XP to know precisely how to use it. This is why I feel Stafford is in a prime position to take his game to a new level. 

 

I chose Fitzpatrick and Darnold as the guys I want to succeed, but am not necessarily sold on (Darnold being my least favorite option.) I hate the Jets and I want them to continue to be the laughing stock of the league and premier dumpster 🔥 franchise. I don't necessarily think he's some kind of hidden treasure. I'm motivated purely by hate. 😈 And as far as Fitz goes, who doesn't want him to succeed? He's a class act and seems like a cool guy to shoot the **** with. With that being said, I think he does have a legit chance to snag that NFCE. He's the 2nd best QB in that division IMO and I'll be keeping an eye out on his progress.

 

Sorry, for the long read...

 

 

Edited June 12, 2021 by ChronicAndKnuckles

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

48 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think the problem with Wentz (from various reports) has been maybe too much support?

- Howie Roseman had a life-size picture of Carson Wentz on his office wall which reflected how Wentz was treated in the organization

- Roseman and Lurie gave him influence in the draft, FA, and coaching decisions even though he actually hadn't achieved that much

- Wentz didn’t always "take" to hard coaching or show personal accountability for mistakes

- Wentz would "kill" plays called by Pederson out of "personal dislike" for the play

- Wentz unwillingness to accept blame for his mistakes hurt him in the locker room

 

 

 

 

 

So here's the nutshell:

 

The question is whether watching the whole experience in Philly unfold will serve as a "gut check" for Wentz. 

Will he listen and accept the "hard coaching" under Reich and his OC Marcus Brady, who is going to be a first-year OC?

 

Or will he keep on as he is said to have done in Philly?

 

Unless it affects the Bills, I'd actually like to see Wentz become a redemption story.  But habits are hard to break.

Wow !!! Thanks for posting this as it is a pretty bad indictment of Wentz. 

 

I never knew all this happened in Philly. 

 

I'm not a Wentz fan and I personally would like to see him fall flat on his face. It will be interesting to see how the Colts go from Rivers the consumate nice guy to the ego driven Wentz. 

 

I like Stafford, Darnold and Fitz. I just think Fitz is too old.

Edited June 12, 2021 by JakeFrommStateFarm

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Worst QB in the NFL from a clean pocket in 2020. I think playing on a good Indy team will expose what the primary issue was.... it was Carson Wentz.

Philly had a pathetic group of receivers to go along with a bad o-line (many injuries).  Wentz also had a role to play in their bad performance but it wasn't solely on him.  He played great during their super bowl year and was surrounded by a very good team.  Throwing from a clean pocket only means something when your receivers can gain separation or can win on contested balls.  Not much of either of those things were happening for Philly in 2020.  Even with all of that said, I agree with you and expect him to be a big disappointment in Indy.  They will hide some of his problems with a good running game but when he must deliver on a critical drive in a close game, I expect him to fail.

[TBBills]

Only Stafford. 

 

WFT basically hurt themselves b.c with Fitz you will not make the playoffs. You know... Fitz curse.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

17 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Wow !!! Thanks for posting this as it is a pretty bad indictment of Wentz. 

I never knew all this happened in Philly. 

I'm not a Wentz fan and I personally would like to see him fall flat on his face. It will be interesting to see how the Colts go from Rivers the consumate nice guy to the ego driven Wentz. 

 

Sometimes big-ego not-very-nice guys get a "gut check" and change state. 

 

Reportedly Jim Kelly was not a very likeable guy his first years in Buffalo, and reportedly didn't show accountability privately and threw his teammates under the bus publicly.  In 1989, the "Bickering Bills" year, Thurman Thomas famously returned fire.  He was asked in a TV interview what positions the Bills could improve on, and said "Quarterback". 

 

Kelly got the message (presumably from others as well), and now all these years later that whole core group of players are still best friends.

 

I like to see good football, and we're located so we either get Indy or KC on TV a lot.  I'd just as soon watch a good game as a bad one, so I have no particular desire for Wentz to fall on his face unless he's playing the Bills.

 

But it's going to be interesting to see how the Colts first-year OC fares with Wentz.

 

17 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I like Stafford, Darnold and Fitz. I just think Fitz is too old.

 

HA!  I've been thinking Fitz is too old for like the last 6 years, and yet, there he is running the "Ryan Fitzpatrick Cycle" with Yet Another Team.

 

IIRC, Buddy Nix cited Fitz age (30 at the time) as one reason to move on the spring the Bills cut him.  It's like Fitz subsequent career has been one giant middle finger to Nix for that.

 

TBH Fitz arm looked better last year and the year before than I'd seen it, and his pick % was down.  I think he may have been working on his passing mechanics and working harder on his physical condition.  Back when he was with the Bills, he used to show up with a pronounced "Dad Bod" and a nice coating of fat over his fitness.

[MJS]

Does Stafford need to resurrect his career? He has always been pretty good. If he can maintain his level of play that would be a good thing for his new team.

[H2o]

I think Stafford in LA with McVay is a really good match. In that offense I think he has the best years of his career. I then want to see Fitz do well in Washington, but suck against us, and finally get a taste of the playoffs. 

[Rico]

Fitz and Fitz. Right team in the right division, he finally makes the playoffs.

 

Honorable mention to Darnold, because Jets. I feel like giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

Have no use for the other QB's on the list.

[CA OC Bills Fan]

14 hours ago, Boxcar said:

I don't really think Stafford or Fitz quite belong there. The others haven't been good and required a change of scenery, but changing teams is normal for Fitz and Stafford is already a very good QB and has been for his while career.

 

I'd love to see Darnold succeed. Poor guy got such a raw deal.

I agree that Stafford was a completely different situation than Darnold or Wentz in that he was never the problem in Detroit, he just didn't have a team around him. I just wanted to keep him here since he's another former top pick that switched teams. Actually, I was listening to Sirius XM NFL Radio yesterday (?) and I think it was Ryan Leaf was ranking the QBs in the NFC West. He had Stafford as last saying that until he sees it, he's not buying that changing Goff for Stafford is going to necessarily change much.

 

As for Fitz, yes, he's the odd man out in that he's not a former top pick, he has generally been what he is, a decent stop gap QB or a good backup. Again, I just decided to include him for as much as any reason many of us like to see him succeed when it doesn't adversely affect the Bills. Him being in the NFC, and also being the on the only NFC team that only plays the Bills in our division, I likely will root for him in every game except of course against the Bills.

13 hours ago, CuseBill said:

I think Carson Wentz will most benefit from a "reset" especially with his former coach Frank Reich and a good line in front of him.  He has the physical talent and (I think) the intelligence.  He had no support at the Eagles on any level (coaching, line, running game, receivers, defense) and I think he will regain his confidence in a short time.

I agree, or at least I kind of hope you're right. I don't really care about Wentz except I like the idea of Reich looking good and him resurrecting Wentz's career will make him look good. Of course, if he does, then the Colts will be competition for the Bills, but that's ok, so long as we beat them in the playoffs. And, I'd much rather the Colts win than the Titans. 

[CA OC Bills Fan]

13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

No Andy dalton?

 

I picked Darnold because he’s Josh’s friend and because it will piss off jets fans if he’s good 

When I was first thinking about starting this thread, I was going to include Dalton, I just forgot😟 If I knew how to edit the choices, I'd add him on. Personally, I'd like to see him do well but I don't see any chance that he will in Chicago.

[CA OC Bills Fan]

8 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

 

I have a theory that the early-mid 30's are the prime years for a franchise QB in these current times due to all the advances in healthcare & training. A decade or 2 before, it was the mid-late 20's. My reason being they have all the built in wisdom from 10+ years of experience playing combined w/ all of their physical skills still in tact. A good example is Aaron Rodgers. I feel like he's playing the best football of his life. He still has a great arm and has the intelligent and XP to know precisely how to use it. This is why I feel Stafford is in a prime position to take his game to a new level.

I can partially buy this as it makes sense. However, I can't think of many QBs who first start to look great in their 30s. Rich Gannon possibly, but that wasn't recent. Rogers was always good since he took over as a starter. I'd agree that his experience has helped him get better. I think you could have always said that was the case that QB's experience after 10 years in the league made them better. The big difference now vs. years ago is more about the rules than the training. Kelly was absolutely killed for most of his career. Part was from early on the Bills didn't have a line. Part was the way he played the game. But a big part was that the rules allowed him to be hit much more and much harder than he would be today. 

[RaoulDuke79]

Stafford is going to light it up .

[Boxcar]

24 minutes ago, CA OC Bills Fan said:

I agree that Stafford was a completely different situation than Darnold or Wentz in that he was never the problem in Detroit, he just didn't have a team around him. I just wanted to keep him here since he's another former top pick that switched teams. Actually, I was listening to Sirius XM NFL Radio yesterday (?) and I think it was Ryan Leaf was ranking the QBs in the NFC West. He had Stafford as last saying that until he sees it, he's not buying that changing Goff for Stafford is going to necessarily change much.

 

As for Fitz, yes, he's the odd man out in that he's not a former top pick, he has generally been what he is, a decent stop gap QB or a good backup. Again, I just decided to include him for as much as any reason many of us like to see him succeed when it doesn't adversely affect the Bills. Him being in the NFC, and also being the on the only NFC team that only plays the Bills in our division, I likely will root for him in every game except of course against the Bills.

I agree, or at least I kind of hope you're right. I don't really care about Wentz except I like the idea of Reich looking good and him resurrecting Wentz's career will make him look good. Of course, if he does, then the Colts will be competition for the Bills, but that's ok, so long as we beat them in the playoffs. And, I'd much rather the Colts win than the Titans. 

I'm sorry, what? Someone ranked Stafford below Trey Lance/Jimmy G and Kyler Murray?

 

Lolk

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, CA OC Bills Fan said:

When I was first thinking about starting this thread, I was going to include Dalton, I just forgot😟 If I knew how to edit the choices, I'd add him on. Personally, I'd like to see him do well but I don't see any chance that he will in Chicago.

 

Edit your OP post (the one that started the thread).  Look at the top.  You'll see two tabs with choices, "Content" is one, and "Poll" is the other.

Click on Poll and the changes you want are Your Oyster.

[machine gun kelly]

Stafford should do well as he didn’t have a running game or much of a defense in Detroit.  The Rams upgraded their QB, and his stats in Detroit were somewhat eye popping.  He also isn’t that old.  He could be there another 8 years as he’s only 33.

 

I think everyone roots for Fitz, but he’s just a bridge until they find one in the draft next year.

 

This really is the last chance for Wentz.  He’ll be a backup if he fails in Indy.  They are one of the more balanced teams in the AFC, and Reich did get something out of him in the past.  That one is a real crapshoot.  Selfishly, I hope it doesn’t go well as they’ll make the playoffs if he does well.

[SoTier]

I'm not going to pretend to have a crystal ball with these QBs, especially Wentz.   I think that a significant amount of any QB's success stems from his situation, which is why I picked Stafford, Wentz, and Fitzpatrick.  They are all in situations where they're set up for success with quality teams around them, but Wentz is the one with the big question marks.   If he can't return to recover his early career form on a talented team with a quality coaching staff like Indy, then there's no excuses for him.  Indy is a good QB away from being a serious SB contender.