Logic Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) The most telling comment to me is "we're thinking more long term than short term" at pick 30. It would seem to indicate that they're not thinking "who's going to push us over the top in 2021", but rather, "who's gonna help us BEYOND this coming year, once we have to start cutting expensive vets to accommodate Allen's extension and the reduced cap". To me, it opens the door to positions like IOL (Creed Humphrey as a potential long term replacement for Morse), IDL (Barmore or Onwizureke?), a developmental EDGE prospect, even LB. It also doesn't close the door on the already perceived "favorites" at 30, like CB or WR. WR, actually, is a pretty interesting possibility. Sanders is only on a one-year deal and Beasley isn't exactly a spring chicken. Edited April 20, 2021 by Logic 1 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think he’s being calculated and wants someone to trade ahead of him to take etienne so another player falls to him Yeah. He's always very calculated and holds his cards close to the vest. Nothing from that presser told me that Etienne is "their guy". That's more people projecting their personal 'want' of Etienne. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I feel there's a decent chance that the 30th pick ends up being at a position that may have Bills fans scratching their heads a bit, as it's not the most immediate "need" and may already have good veterans at that position. Again, though, the cap being lower than expected next year and the upcoming Allen (and Edmunds?) extension(s) will start to make the cutting of good veterans necessary in favor of cheap labor. Mitch Morse, Star Lotulelei, AJ Klein, Mario Addison, Jerry Hughes....some of the older, more expensive vets on this team may see their replacements drafted this year. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Logic said: The most telling comment to me is "we're thinking more long term than short term" at pick 30. It would seem to indicate that they're not thinking "who's going to push us over the top in 2021", but rather, "who's gonna help us BEYOND this coming year, once we have to start cutting expensive vets to accommodate Allen's extension and the reduced cap". To me, it opens the door to positions like IOL (Creed Humphrey as a potential long term replacement for Morse), IDL (Barmore or Onwizureke?), a developmental EDGE prospect, even LB. It also doesn't close the door on the already perceived "favorites" at 30, like CB or WR. WR, actually, is a pretty interesting possibility. Sanders is only on a one-year deal and Beasley isn't exactly a spring chicken. The reduced cap? TV Extension dollars are going to be kicking in starting after this year and within 5 years the cap is projected to be at $300 million. It makes sense to tie Allen up longterm now because he will be taking up an increasingly small portion of the cap as we move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think he’s being calculated and wants someone to trade ahead of him to take etienne so another player falls to him Hes calculated but can be a straight shooter too. Etienne is a perfect for for us. Would ignite the offense even further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: The reduced cap? TV Extension dollars are going to be kicking in starting after this year and within 5 years the cap is projected to be at $300 million. It makes sense to tie Allen up longterm now because he will be taking up an increasingly small portion of the cap as we move forward. Beane just said in his press conference that he doesn't expect the cap to go up by a huge amount next year. That's what I'm referring to. Also, I believe the TV money doesn't kick in until 2023. Edited April 20, 2021 by Logic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 The talk about planning ahead could be us looking at a replacement for Edmunds as well imo. Add that to the fact they are still thinking about the 5th year options, which you know they're picking up Josh's, and it makes sense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 He said that they will decide on the 5th year options for Josh and Edmunds "after the draft". The draft ends May 1st and the deadline to pick up the options is May 3rd. That is a tight window. Nobody realistically thinks there is a decision to be made with Josh. That is a no-brainer and a slam dunk. He probably couched it that way so as not to tick off Edmunds' camp. JMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, BillsSbSoon said: Hes calculated but can be a straight shooter too. Etienne is a perfect for for us. Would ignite the offense even further Both of the RB’s have skill sets that ours don’t possess, so I would think both are in play if they fall to 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 We really need for this draft to be over. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The Governor said: Both of the RB’s have skill sets that ours don’t possess, so I would think both are in play if they fall to For sure i just think etienne gives us more of what we dont have. An explosive home run hitter. Can make the case for either one though. Edited April 20, 2021 by BillsSbSoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Logic said: Beane just said in his press conference that he doesn't expect the cap to go up by a huge amount next year. That's what I'm referring to. Also, I believe the TV money doesn't kick in until 2023. The ESPN/ABC Monday Night deal kicks in after next year. The other contracts the following year. Cap should go up by about 15-20 million next year if not more: Fortunately, thanks to the new television contracts, things are looking up for the 2022 season and far beyond for everyone involved. The Athletic’s Lindsay Jones wrote there is a reasonable expectation that the 2022 NFL salary cap climbs to at least $200 million, with the possibility it is set even higher. Additionally, agents believe that the 2023 cap ceiling could skyrocket toward $230 million. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/nfl_salary_cap_could_climb_past_200_million_for_2022_season/s1_12680_34412705 In terms of Allen's deal they could easily backload a lot of the dollars so it is less against the cap early on and more once the cap starts skyrocketing in years 3,4 and 5...either way, the cap will increase so much that Allen's deal will look like a huge win for the Bills after a few years. Edited April 20, 2021 by Big Turk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: For sure i just think etienne gives us more of what we dont have. An explosive home run hitter. Can make the case for either one though. If he can’t block and he’s a fumbler, he won’t be the pick. Be interesting to see what they decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Governor said: If he can’t block and he’s a fumbler, he won’t be the pick. Be interesting to see what they decide. Both of those things are fixable. At the end of the day id kinda be surprised if beane took a rb in the 1st anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 If there's one thing to bank on about a press conference one week before the draft it's that a GM will be 100% honest about his draft intentions. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsSbSoon said: Both of those things are fixable. At the end of the day id kinda be surprised if beane took a rb in the 1st anyways Agreed. A WR is much more likely than a RB at pick 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I expect an Allen extension to be announced about a week after the draft. Just a gut feeling. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: Hes calculated but can be a straight shooter too. Etienne is a perfect for for us. Would ignite the offense even further I just don’t see him going there at all. He knew exactly what would happen when he said that and it was intentional. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I just don’t see him going there at all. He knew exactly what would happen when he said that and it was intentional. Possibly. I gave doubts beane goes that route too. An explosive home run hitting rb that can catch outs this offense over the top, but theres a good chance both of them are long gone anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, ExWNYer said: Need speed on D O to take on KC. Fixed it for you. Skills players and scoring are what win now. 21 minutes ago, HOUSE said: We really need for this draft to be over. It was much worse during the years when Buffalo was bad. Basically during the 2005-19 drafts. It's child's play drafting bottom of the 1st coming off an AFC Championship appearance. Of course, the board was a lot different about 10 years ago. Smaller more educated group for the most part. Not so much anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsVet said: Fixed it for you. Skills players and scoring are what win now. It was much worse during the years when Buffalo was bad. Basically during the 2005-19 drafts. It's child's play drafting bottom of the 1st coming off an AFC Championship appearance. Of course, the board was a lot different about 10 years ago. Smaller more educated group for the most part. Not so much anymore. No, you didn't "fix it" for me. That is what Beane was talking about at the time when someone asked him about KC. Maybe listen next time before being a wise ass. Jesus H... 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: He said that they will decide on the 5th year options for Josh and Edmunds "after the draft". The draft ends May 1st and the deadline to pick up the options is May 3rd. That is a tight window. Nobody realistically thinks there is a decision to be made with Josh. That is a no-brainer and a slam dunk. He probably couched it that way so as not to tick off Edmunds' camp. JMO The NFL did no favor to teams by making draft end so late close to date to pick up many options. I understand that they needed more time due to lack of combine but future contracts should not have fixed date but relative date like "7 days after draft ends". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Isn't Breida the "HR hitter"? And as for Edmunds, they've been playing him out of position, hoping to make him what he may never become. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 55 minutes ago, Logic said: The most telling comment to me is "we're thinking more long term than short term" at pick 30. It would seem to indicate that they're not thinking "who's going to push us over the top in 2021", but rather, "who's gonna help us BEYOND this coming year, once we have to start cutting expensive vets to accommodate Allen's extension and the reduced cap". To me, it opens the door to positions like IOL (Creed Humphrey as a potential long term replacement for Morse), IDL (Barmore or Onwizureke?), a developmental EDGE prospect, even LB. It also doesn't close the door on the already perceived "favorites" at 30, like CB or WR. WR, actually, is a pretty interesting possibility. Sanders is only on a one-year deal and Beasley isn't exactly a spring chicken. Yep. Could even see us trading up for a guy like Jaylen Waddle, Micah Parsons or Devonta Smith if they are there but I doubt that there’s a whole lot of other prospects that we would go up for and the likelihood that either of these guys are there is next to zero. Waddle or Smith would be epic in this offense though. 30 minutes ago, eball said: I expect an Allen extension to be announced about a week after the draft. Just a gut feeling. I’m sure both sides want it done.. I suspect that Josh will take a lower yearly salary if he is given a longer deal with more guaranteed.. That’s my gut feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Beane sucking Marcel into his 'web'. 🤔 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, wppete said: Anyone have a Video Link yet? Thanks! Here's the audio. @YoloinOhio may have the video for you. https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/podcasts/bills-football-20262 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: No, you didn't "fix it" for me. That is what Beane was talking about at the time when someone asked him about KC. Maybe listen next time before being a wise ass. Jesus H... Relax Hondo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, BillsVet said: Relax Hondo. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Did Beane mention drafting a DT the size of a mountain? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsVet said: Relax Hondo. Folks get wrapped around the axle each year around the draft. Most prognostications have been off the mark, especially the way Beane trades up and down. The closest I have seen is when many of us suspected he would take Oliver over the TE the Lions grabbed... I don't think either have quite lived up to their potential yet. I kind of just want to skip the drama and get right to the yearly bitching about the picks already. 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, WideNine said: Folks get wrapped around the axle each year around the draft. Most prognostications have been off the mark, especially the way Beane trades up and down. The closest I have seen is when many of us suspected he would take Oliver over the TE the Lions grabbed... I don't think either have quite lived up to their potential yet. I kind of just want to skip the drama and get right to the yearly bitching about the picks already. 🙂 I suspect Beane just holds those press conferences so he can come here and get a big chuckle out of how we dissect every comment and come up with crazy ideas! Edited April 20, 2021 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Augie said: I suspect Beane just beans those press conferences so he can come here and get a big chuckle out of how we dissect every comment and come up with crazy ideas! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Augie said: I suspect Beane just beans those press conferences so he can come here and get a big chuckle out of how we dissect every comment and come up with crazy ideas! I can easily picture him kicking up his heels, drink in hand, and lurking on a few sites like these and checking out the tweets just to chuckle and bask in all the chaos and misdirection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Liars season. Believe and don’t read into anything. They all lie like an adulteress. I haven’t believed a word of any prognosticator, analyst, coach, manager or anyone else. They all lie. Im ok with it. I can’t believe there is something to read into from some people. There isn’t. He’ll, wecluld be taking. Long snapper for what we know (not really). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 https://www.instagram.com/p/CN5XjbqJLH1/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Good summary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: “I wish we were picking at 32” Next year 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Beane never commits to anything, he just leaves everyone blowing in the wind, gets folk to spin what he says in almost any direction, he is damn good at being noncommittal, Go Beane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: Liars season. Believe and don’t read into anything. They all lie like an adulteress. I haven’t believed a word of any prognosticator, analyst, coach, manager or anyone else. They all lie. Im ok with it. I can’t believe there is something to read into from some people. There isn’t. He’ll, wecluld be taking. Long snapper for what we know (not really). Adulteress? Misogyny. It’s a known fact adulterers lie 82% more than adulteresses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) Beane is just starting the process of casting his spell on the rest of the GM’s. The incantations have begun. Edited April 21, 2021 by buffaloboyinATL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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