wppete Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) Report: Former NFL player Phillip Adams kills 5 in South Carolina, then himself https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31214902/report-former-nfl-player-phillip-adams-kills-5-himself Played for San Francisco and the Raiders. Went to South Carolina University. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AdamPh00.htm Edited April 8, 2021 by wppete 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 He deserves to rot in the hottest part of hell. 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Killed a 9 year old and a 5 year old, among others. Hope he likes it hot, because I hear it is hot where he is going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: He deserves to rot in the hottest part of hell. Trust me, he's feelin' it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Killing anyone is terrible. Killing children? You can die a million fiery deaths. Piece of crap. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 He must have been suffering a great deal I am both the perpetrator and the victim. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: He must have been suffering a great deal I am both the perpetrator and the victim. Or he was off his ***** rocker. Why don't we hold back on the sympathy for the dude that murdered children for the time being. 2 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I'm in Greenville, SC right now and this is all over the news. Absolutely sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, LeviF91 said: Or he was off his ***** rocker. Why don't we hold back on the sympathy for the dude that murdered children for the time being. Do as you like I know I'm capable of lashing out when I'm in pain, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: He must have been suffering a great deal I am both the perpetrator and the victim. People suffer all the time and manage not to go on a murder spree. 5 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, LeviF91 said: Or he was off his ***** rocker. Why don't we hold back on the sympathy for the dude that murdered children for the time being. Why? because he's a person just like me and you. Was he a good person? from his actions it doesn't look like it but what lead him to those actions? Perhaps he had an illness like depression or something else. Edited April 8, 2021 by The Jokeman 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Do as you like I know I'm capable of lashing out when I'm in pain, too. With a .45? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Apparently the man he killed was a doctor that treated him. I hate to speculate but this seems like CTE. This is so sad. Those innocent people. It’s equally as sad how so many players end up in shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Why? because he's a person just like me and you. Was he a good person? from his actions know but what lead him to those actions? Perhaps he had an illness like depression or something else. Or he's simply evil. Why can't people be evil anymore? 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: With a .45? I don't know his life other than suffering, which I can relate to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 From what i've heard down here, Dr Lesslie told Adams he would not prescribe anymore painkillers and that he needed to seek help. (unconfirmed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Or he's simply evil. Why can't people be evil anymore? The obsession with finding something - anything - to blame aside from the proximate cause (in this case, a murderer) of somebody's death nowadays is baffling to me. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Why? because he's a person just like me and you. Was he a good person? from his actions know but what lead him to those actions? Perhaps he had an illness like depression or something else. What about Ted Bundy? Should we have sympathy for him? Adolph Hitler? Stalin? Pablo Escobar? Are we supposed to talk about how hard it must have been for these guys because surely they all had mental illness that led to their murders? Mental illness is not an excuse for murder or genocide. Millions of people live with those same illnesses without managing to kill a bunch of people. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: The obsession with finding something - anything - to blame aside from the proximate cause (in this case, a murderer) of somebody's death nowadays is baffling to me. Need to have sympathy for the criminal/murderer....I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Apparently the man he killed was a doctor that treated him. I hate to speculate but this seems like CTE. This is so sad. Those innocent people. It’s equally as sad how so many players end up in shambles. The catch all disease. Again, thousands of former players live with significant effects from CTE without going on a murder spree. Yes, pain and mental illness are hard. For sure. But nobody should get a pass for murdering others regardless of what they were going through. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, MJS said: What about Ted Bundy? Should we have sympathy for him? Adolph Hitler? Stalin? Pablo Escobar? Are we supposed to talk about how hard it must have been for these guys because surely they all had mental illness that led to their murders? Mental illness is not an excuse for murder or genocide. Millions of people live with those same illnesses without managing to kill a bunch of people. No but understanding the illness sometimes helps find something that will help cure or alleviate it for someone else. I have depression and medicated for it thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 The more I reading the reports of the incident, this man is pure Evil. Killed a 9 and a 5 year old. Disgusting, sick to my stomach. We have seen so much disgusting behavior from NFL athletes this year alone but this is on another level... enough is enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, MJS said: What about Ted Bundy? Should we have sympathy for him? Adolph Hitler? Stalin? Pablo Escobar? Are we supposed to talk about how hard it must have been for these guys because surely they all had mental illness that led to their murders? Mental illness is not an excuse for murder or genocide. Millions of people live with those same illnesses without managing to kill a bunch of people. Absolutely. Mental illness or not. I don’t care. No excuses for this!! I’m sick of that excuse being used constantly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: No but understanding the illness sometimes helps find something that will help cure or alleviate it for someone else. I have depression and medicated for it thankfully. I'm sorry you go through depression, my ex did and I know how bad it can be. There are and have been research on mental illness/depression. I'm sure they will keep enhancing the medication. However, everyone has a right to be angry over this, mental illness or not. Innocent people should not lose their lives, children especially, because of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, H2o said: Trust me, he's feelin' it right now. he's not feeling anything. He's dead 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Mental illness or not, ***** him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Apparently the man he killed was a doctor that treated him. I hate to speculate but this seems like CTE. This is so sad. Those innocent people. It’s equally as sad how so many players end up in shambles. From a quick look at wikipedia, doesn't seem like he has a history of any concussions, though you never know what is reported or now. As a CB, you would think the risk of CTE would be less. He also didn't really ever play meaningful snaps in the NFL-- was a 7th round pick that bounced around on some PS's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, Brennan Huff said: Mental illness or not, ***** him exactly. to kill a guy's grandkids...he's a special sort of #######. a lot of us have mental illness in our families. hell, a few months ago my cousin had to call the cops on himself because he attacked my uncle during an episode. it's hard, but what this guy did was just from his evil nature. ***** him right in his ear hole. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I can't believe CTE is even being discussed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, nucci said: he's not feeling anything. He's dead Dead to this present world, but 🔥 in the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, MJS said: The catch all disease. Again, thousands of former players live with significant effects from CTE without going on a murder spree. Yes, pain and mental illness are hard. For sure. But nobody should get a pass for murdering others regardless of what they were going through. I’m not giving anyone a pass? All I said was it seemed like it could be CTE and then said it was a tragedy... This is a poor response from you man... Do you understand how CTE works and what it does to your brain and ability to behave and think rationally? It doesn’t have the same effect on everyone. 1 minute ago, Process said: I can't believe CTE is even being discussed. Ok. When they come out and say he had significant CTE then we can discuss it. That’s probably fair. Edited April 8, 2021 by JGMcD2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, Maynard said: Absolutely. Mental illness or not. I don’t care. No excuses for this!! I’m sick of that excuse being used constantly. We don't really know the motive, but I'll say its hard (nigh impossible) to have any sympathy for a murderer. Undiagnosed mental illness is a huge problem in the world, and far too complex an issue to discuss on a message board. I see no reason to bring his NFL career into it, nor do i believe it was the main contributing factor. all retired players to receive free or low-cost screenings, preventive care, mental health services and orthopedic care at a new national network of top hospitals created by the owners and the union Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Do as you like I know I'm capable of lashing out when I'm in pain, too. Everyone is...usually they don't go around killing people because on some level they take responsibility for much of it themselves. These people blame the world and bear no responsibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, H2o said: Dead to this present world, but 🔥 in the latter. I guess, if you believe in that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Scum of the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: He must have been suffering a great deal I am both the perpetrator and the victim. I agree that, out of suffering, more pain tends to be projected onto others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 The vast, vast majority of gun violence in this country happens where existing laws, and new laws, won't prevent them... and i'm not some NRA guy - I don't even own a gun, but that's facts... To get to the root of what's going on in this country, we need to be able to have discussions deeper than virtue signal gun laws and calling people evil. This situation is tragic, as they all are, and the act of killing 5 people, including 2 kids, is pure evil... but we won't ever solve the gun violence epidemic if we just label guns bad, people evil, and move on to the next massacre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, MJS said: People suffer all the time and manage not to go on a murder spree. This seems to be a too common occurrence with CTE. We can crap on the guy for doing something horrible all we want (and it's warranted) but there is a much deeper problem here that we should probably consider. Chris Benoit, Aaron Hernandez, Junior Seau, Tyler Hilinski, etc. It's clearly an issue. Why would anyone discount this? Edited April 8, 2021 by Boxcar 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 45 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Do as you like I know I'm capable of lashing out when I'm in pain, too. There’s a difference between seeing the humanity of all angles and trying to excuse actions. If you have concerns that you’re capable of lashing out to this extent you need to seek help. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 58 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: From a quick look at wikipedia, doesn't seem like he has a history of any concussions, though you never know what is reported or now. As a CB, you would think the risk of CTE would be less. He also didn't really ever play meaningful snaps in the NFL-- was a 7th round pick that bounced around on some PS's. It's all speculation now but he did play a lot of STs, and that will tend to get you some head trauma. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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