Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Nice. Really like this player. I think there's untapped potential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iverwig Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Yes!!! I’m so happy with this. Very underrated player for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: We need our hyphenate. And when I say hyphenate, I don't mean that he's a WR / gadget guy / returner. I mean he re-signed. With a hyphen. Unless he decides to leave a job at some point, which would be resigning. Oh I thought you meant to reflect his proper name... Isaiah McKitrick-McKenzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Glad they resigned him but depending on the draft, his spot on the final roster isn’t necessarily a lock. If the Bills were to draft someone like Ihmir Smith Marsette, WR at Iowa, he does everything McKenzie does but is bigger and most likely cheaper. Camp should be very competitive this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I don’t think Beane is eliminating the possibility of using a late 1st on a WR just because of what he gave up to get Diggs. WRs typically don’t put up big numbers as rookies. Wouldn’t be a bad idea to take on in the first few rounds to develop behind vets like Beasley, Sanders and Diggs rather than just throwing them in the fire because we have nobody else. All will be revealed next month! LOL. As to "because we have nobody else" I wouldn't worry about that. As long as Josh is throwing the ball receivers will be knocking the door down to come to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: Not necessarily, a WR at any round is still in play given Beasley's and Sanders age. Kadarius Toney would be a great option at 30 and locks in your WR group as a top 3 group for 2 to 3 years Definitely agree with what you said. Also the biggest strength of our team was Josh and the WRs last season so I hope we keep investing in the passing game. A weapon like Toney gives you elite versatility, YAC, and speed. We have bigger 'needs' elsewhere on the roster, but I think he would make our offense unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Looking forward to more relentless snark from his teammates. Any numbers on his deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Beane is never done, 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said: Glad they resigned him but depending on the draft, his spot on the final roster isn’t necessarily a lock. If the Bills were to draft someone like Ihmir Smith Marsette, WR at Iowa, he does everything McKenzie does but is bigger and most likely cheaper. Camp should be very competitive this year! I think you’re right. I also think he ends up making the final roster... but his spot isn’t guaranteed. He said in an interview the same thing happened to him last year. They like him... but keep pushing him harder to earn this back of the roster spot. Fits the whole competition everywhere mantra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Looking forward to more relentless snark from his teammates. Any numbers on his deal? This thread seems like a good place to bring this old gem back to life 🤣 : 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 as a PR/KR + his value as "the jet sweep guy" he is much more valuable than the role he played last year. I like bringing him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said: His body of work as a returner (punts mostly) was horrible as a Bronco and it probably got him released. The Bills have not let him do enough returns to make me confident in having him take over as their primary guy. This is why I don't know what to expect with him, as far as being a returner. Hope he has gotten a lot better since then. Not for certain he will take over as K/R-P/R though. Have to see what happens. Lot of off season left. Edited March 23, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) I think they need a bigger body back there to return punts and kickoffs. Glad he's back. He knows the offense and is a useful cog. Go get a bigger body to take the wear and tear of return duties. I think spot duty or change of pace is fine occasionally, but someone dedicated to the spot is what I believe is needed. How about last year's receiver? Hodgins? He's 6-3, 201lbs Edited March 23, 2021 by wjag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 We shall see. I just don't know how we are expected to improve if we are just brining back all the same players. I hope he doesn't make the team, just because that means we upgraded what he could bring us in the draft. I really want an player that can stretch the field. We are running out of spots on the 51, so I thought Isiah's was a spot that could have been upgraded to bring in a guy to do it all, not just touch the ball 3 times a game. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: We shall see. I just don't know how we are expected to improve if we are just brining back all the same players. I hope he doesn't make the team, just because that means we upgraded what he could bring us in the draft. I really want an player that can stretch the field. We are running out of spots on the 51, so I thought Isiah's was a spot that could have been upgraded to bring in a guy to do it all, not just touch the ball 3 times a game. The Bills need a PR/KR. He showed that he can do that in the Miami game. He also played WR and sort of RB. Remember they are getting Hodgins back. Thats like a free draft pick. Trust the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said: Glad they resigned him but depending on the draft, his spot on the final roster isn’t necessarily a lock. If the Bills were to draft someone like Ihmir Smith Marsette, WR at Iowa, he does everything McKenzie does but is bigger and most likely cheaper. Camp should be very competitive this year! I think he is pretty safe....there is still one WR position open when compared to last year, Roberts replacement...which could be McKenzie filling that role of returner. I would not rule it out but I think WR will not be a high draft priority this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said: His body of work as a returner (punts mostly) was horrible as a Bronco and it probably got him released. The Bills have not let him do enough returns to make me confident in having him take over as their primary guy. Body of work? The guy was a rookie. Mckenzie is so much better now than he was when he 1st arrived in Buffalo. Much more confident player. You can see the improvement all around as a WR. He hasn't had to return the ball much though so we'll see. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Looking forward to more relentless snark from his teammates. Any numbers on his deal? we can assume he turned down top dollar to take a hometown deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Body of work? The guy was a rookie. Mckenzie is so much better now than he was when he 1st arrived in Buffalo. Much more confident player. You can see the improvement all around as a WR. He hasn't had to return the ball much though so we'll see. No question he has definitely improved. But not sure about as a returner specifically. Hasn't really done it too much to tell really, unless he got a lot of reps in practice and whatnot that I'm not aware of. As a WR and pretty much all around player, yes absolutely an improvement. Just not sure about the KR-PR role yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 44 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I’m not so sure. Sanders is only here for a year and Beasley isn’t getting any younger. We have Davis and not much else in terms of young WR talent. It is pretty well known that Beane has wanted Sanders for a while....it would not shock me to see Sanders signed to a extension after this year.....they are just being frugal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: we can assume he turned down top dollar to take a hometown deal I found it interesting to hear Beane joke that maybe Josh would give him a "hometown discount." Up until this point, I thought that was just something us fans said/thought/hoped for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Definitely agree with what you said. Also the biggest strength of our team was Josh and the WRs last season so I hope we keep investing in the passing game. A weapon like Toney gives you elite versatility, YAC, and speed. We have bigger 'needs' elsewhere on the roster, but I think he would make our offense unstoppable. I think this team is looking at trying to get a piece that makes an immediate impact in an area of need at pick 30, I don’t see WR being that area. Maybe at pick 62 they dip into building the depth and future of the team but at pick 30 I think the team tries to find an impact piece. I don’t think WR is very likely at pick 30 possible but highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said: His body of work as a returner (punts mostly) was horrible as a Bronco and it probably got him released. The Bills have not let him do enough returns to make me confident in having him take over as their primary guy. Yeah that touchdown last year in the few opportunites he got really sucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Just now, John from Riverside said: It is pretty well known that Beane has wanted Sanders for a while....it would not shock me to see Sanders signed to a extension after this year.....they are just being frugal. Yeah, loved smoke and what he done for the Bills and Allen. But honestly really excited to see Sanders with Diggs and Beasley. Those 3 alone have some of the best hands, if not the best in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Love the move!!! I’m convinced we go DE and CB In the first 2 rounder maybe a RB in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, Gambit said: I'd say Diggs should still qualify as young but maybe I'm wrong. Word is that Hodgins we drafted last year that remained on the PS but got hurt was turning heads......and brings the big WR element. Honestly.....our WR group overall isnt that old.....we have a couple of vets in Sanders and Beasely that are playing at a high level....Cole had his best year last year 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 No, he didn't. The thread title literally means he voluntarily left his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: No question he has definitely improved. But not sure about as a returner specifically. Hasn't really done it too much to tell really, unless he got a lot of reps in practice and whatnot that I'm not aware of. As a WR and pretty much all around player, yes absolutely an improvement. Just not sure about the KR-PR role yet. My biggest worry with returners is ball security. Always. So we'll find out. Brings back a memory of Wade Phillips describing Chris Watson as a "Punt Catcher", not a punt returner. How many people remember that one? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Hopefully a team friendly deal. Im glad to bring him back. Hopefully that means no gadget guy in the early rounds of the draft. Something tells me were looking at another defensive approach.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Really glad McK is back......I feel a lot better with him running those jet sweeps.......most of our guys are 4.4 guys or under......(Gabe is like 4.5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, wppete said: Love the move!!! I’m convinced we go DE and CB In the first 2 rounder maybe a RB in the 3rd. It's looking like CB round 1 is great value. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: My biggest worry with returners is ball security. Always. So we'll find out. Brings back a memory of Wade Phillips describing Chris Watson as a "Punt Catcher", not a punt returner. How many people remember that one? Exactly. Mine also. That's what I mean with him. No question he is fast and can break away. Just not sure how the ball security is with him as the returner. Also not written in stone that he will definitely play that role all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 Nice perspective here... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Word is that Hodgins we drafted last year that remained on the PS but got hurt was turning heads......and brings the big WR element. Honestly.....our WR group overall isnt that old.....we have a couple of vets in Sanders and Beasely that are playing at a high level....Cole had his best year last year Yeah I read the same last year during training camp.... things looking good at WR. 1. Diggs 2. Beasley 3. Sanders 4. Davis 5. McKenzie (Kick/Punt Returner) 6. Hodgins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr. K said: Hopefully a team friendly deal. Im glad to bring him back. Hopefully that means no gadget guy in the early rounds of the draft. Something tells me were looking at another defensive approach.... You know its team friendly....this is Beane we are talking about What I am wondering is how Beane sold McK on staying......I am thinking still gadget guy that gets a lot of work AND our returner (I dont care what he did in Denver....he has been awesome for us in the limited opportunities he has gotten) 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: It's looking like CB round 1 is great value. Big Nickle is looking very likely to me......but I am not ruling out LB....it really depends on who drops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: We shall see. I just don't know how we are expected to improve if we are just brining back all the same players. I hope he doesn't make the team, just because that means we upgraded what he could bring us in the draft. I really want an player that can stretch the field. We are running out of spots on the 51, so I thought Isiah's was a spot that could have been upgraded to bring in a guy to do it all, not just touch the ball 3 times a game. Welp, it took 5 pages, but this was expected.. 1 hour ago, stevewin said: Welcome back McKittrick! Too bad we couldn’t add Fitzgerald instead of Twitch Murbisky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, wppete said: Yeah I read the same last year during training camp.... things looking good at WR. 1. Diggs 2. Beasley 3. Sanders 4. Davis 5. McKenzie (Kick/Punt Returner) 6. Hodgins I would throw Jake Kumerow into that list someone but this looks right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 34 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: While exciting I don't trust him back there returning punts.... and I don't think McD does either. He's a threat to muff/fumble the ball on every return. I was wondering how you were gonna take a dump on this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Exactly. Mine also. That's what I mean with him. No question he is fast and can break away. Just not sure how the ball security is with him as the returner. Also not written in stone that he will definitely play that role all the time. We are going to have that same worry except for a guy like Patterson.....a. rookie would also scare us there. I will take a vet that has shown he has been good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Good to see this. McD emphasized we need more speed on the team overall, so this makes perfect sense. So far we have a net loss of speed on offense. How will they improve? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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