Thoughts and prayers for Zerovoltz here

[Success]

There were a couple of Chiefs fans here the past couple of weeks doing some humble bragging.  It wasn't egregious, but I just thought it was bad etiquette after a loss like we had.  Give it a couple of months before talking about how much better the Chiefs are than the Bills as of today & all that.

 

Much MORE egregious was their main board.  Other fanbases were talking about how insufferable Chiefs fans had become, and I always thought it was hyperbole - but that board was somethin' else. I've said it before, but it's the 1st place on the internet that I will not go back to.  A completely toxic place, where we need stronger words than "arrogant" to adequately describe the general tone.

 

Last night was a bit of humble pie for all of them.  And I didn't really mind seeing Brady hoist another as much as I thought.  6, 7 - what's the difference.

 

[Aussie Joe]

5 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

@Zerovoltzis a pretty respectable troll on the Bills forum and was one of the few who actually saw the talent in Josh Allen.  

 I see to recall that initially he didn’t rate Allen at all, but perhaps came around to his talent a bit earlier then most of his other critics 

2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

No, it was the same person. It was an actual conversation back then. 

No .. dude was always a chiefs fan.. 

Edited February 8, 2021 by Aussie Joe

[Jauronimo]

2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

No, it was the same person. It was an actual conversation back then. 

jeffismagic 

[NewEra]

Here we go with the “one game makes a career” crowd.  The bills chiefs game didn’t make me think that Mahomes is better than allen. His career to date has.  This one game won’t change that. 

 

yes.  I truly believe that Mahomes >>>> Allen.  I truly believe that the Bucs front 7 talent + scheme + the chiefs starting all backup OL + turf toe led to Mahomes playing the worst game of his career.  
 

you feel otherwise.  Cool.

[Aussie Joe]

4 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

jeffismagic 

Yeah that’s him... not Zerovoltz 

Edited February 8, 2021 by Aussie Joe

[Royale with Cheese]

Mahomes and the Chiefs offense has been figured out.  They'll be battling for the #1 overall pick next year!  Sorry Zerovoltz!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

I wish the Bills had that crew calling the AFCCG

KC didn't get away with their usual garbage.

 

Jon Feliciano agrees with you:

 

 

 

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

Yeah that’s him... not Zerovoltz 

They are one and the same as I distinctly recall.

[2ForMacAdoo]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

The chiefs didn’t score a TD.

 

this game wasn’t more Brady.  It’s was more defense.  Just like Brady’s last super bowl win....his D gave up zero TDs.... hard to lose Super Bowls when your opposition doesn’t score ONE TD

It certainly wasn't all Brady. TB's front 7 is just dominating. But TB had virtually the same defense the previous year and got nowhere with Jameis Winston. As much as I hate to admit it, Brady had plenty to do with getting them to the big game and winning it all.

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

13 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

I see to recall that initially he didn’t rate Allen at all, but perhaps came around to his talent a bit earlier then most of his other critics 

 

He has the same Avatar on the Broncos forum as well and he has defended or propped up Allen on their site as well.

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

They are one and the same as I distinctly recall.

Well I recall him saying he was a Chiefs fan who had posted for years before joining here on Chiefs Planet and other AFC west team boards...

 

Jeffsmagic kept posting on Buffalo Rumblings during the 2017 season when Mahomes was having his red shirt year ...

 

Maybe he is both guys  but if so he has a few backstories then...

[prissythecat]

2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Well I recall him saying he was a Chiefs fan who had posted for years before joining here on Chiefs Planet and other AFC west team boards...

 

Jeffsmagic kept posting on Buffalo Rumblings during the 2017 season when Mahomes was having his red shirt year ...

 

Maybe he is both guys  but if so he has a few backstories then...

 

jeffsmagic last logged on to this board around mid2020 from a quick lookup.   And he posted till summer 2017.  So they probably are different people. 

[LabattBlue]

Who cares who he used to be...all I know is he has been trolling here for a few years now...and he is a Chiefs fan on a Bills forum. I’m hoping he disappears from here forever. 

[Stank_Nasty]

20 minutes ago, Success said:

There were a couple of Chiefs fans here the past couple of weeks doing some humble bragging.  It wasn't egregious, but I just thought it was bad etiquette after a loss like we had.  Give it a couple of months before talking about how much better the Chiefs are than the Bills as of today & all that.

 

Much MORE egregious was their main board.  Other fanbases were talking about how insufferable Chiefs fans had become, and I always thought it was hyperbole - but that board was somethin' else. I've said it before, but it's the 1st place on the internet that I will not go back to.  A completely toxic place, where we need stronger words than "arrogant" to adequately describe the general tone.

 

Last night was a bit of humble pie for all of them.  And I didn't really mind seeing Brady hoist another as much as I thought.  6, 7 - what's the difference.

 

100% agree. Brady is already the GOAT. Another title is a small price to pay to see those punk fans get cooled off and for the league to see mahomes bleed a bit.

 

Last night was my preferred outcome.

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Dude, relax.  I’m tired of all of the superlatives that get thrown around after the latest performance by all of these guys.  Now Tampa is the greatest team ever and will dominate for years.  Bottom line is Mahomes looked like crap last night, so everyone can take their foot off the “greatest to play the game” talk for a little while.  Allen did more with less, that’s a fact.

Idk man.  it was one game in which the chiefs OL was completely dominated for 4 quarters and Mahomes was running for his life, with a broken toe.  My personal opinion of Mahomes won’t change because of one game.  He showed that he’s not immune to a great D and game plan + poor OL play and dropped passes.  
 

I don’t get the point of allen doing more with less.  When did he do more with less?  Did you see the KC OL?  Literally 4 backup OL who were shifted around playing positions they normally don’t play.....vs Barrett, JPP, Vea, Suh, David and white.  Did we see Allen play with 4 backup OL?  Yes, Mahomes has better weapons, but our weapons are pretty dam good too.

 

what is the point of this?  Is allen better than Mahomes?  What does one bad Mahomes mean?  
 

Mahomes is the better QB at the moment. There is no debate.  What is so wrong with admitting this?  I was called Nick Wright yesterday......and I’ve stated several times I wouldn’t trade Allen for Mahomes.  Am I being sensitive?  Idk, maybe.  I feel that this board is ultra sensitive with posters stating the obvious truth at this stage in their careers.  Mahomes >>> Allen.   If there was a poll that excluded bills fans from voting  I’m confident that it would be around 99% in favor of Mahomes being the better qb. 

so what’s the problem?

[dave mcbride]

5 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

 

jeffsmagic last logged on to this board around mid2020 from a quick lookup.   And he posted till summer 2017.  So they probably are different people. 

I suppose we could ask him ...

[NewEra]

11 minutes ago, 2ForMacAdoo said:

It certainly wasn't all Brady. TB's front 7 is just dominating. But TB had virtually the same defense the previous year and got nowhere with Jameis Winston. As much as I hate to admit it, Brady had plenty to do with getting them to the big game and winning it all.

Brady had a lot to do with the Bucs getting to AB winning the super bowl.  The defense, last night, was the most dominant unit of the field last night and kept a Mahomes, Hill, Kelce led offense out of the end zone for the entire game.  

[eball]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Idk man.  it was one game in which the chiefs OL was completely dominated for 4 quarters and Mahomes was running for his life, with a broken toe.  My personal opinion of Mahomes won’t change because of one game.  He showed that he’s not immune to a great D and game plan + poor OL play and dropped passes.  
 

I don’t get the point of allen doing more with less.  When did he do more with less?  Did you see the KC OL?  Literally 4 backup OL who were shifted around playing positions they normally don’t play.....vs Barrett, JPP, Vea, Suh, David and white.  Did we see Allen play with 4 backup OL?  Yes, Mahomes has better weapons, but our weapons are pretty dam good too.

 

what is the point of this?  Is allen better than Mahomes?  What does one bad Mahomes mean?  
 

Mahomes is the better QB at the moment. There is no debate.  What is so wrong with admitting this?  I was called Nick Wright yesterday......and I’ve stated several times I wouldn’t trade Allen for Mahomes.  Am I being sensitive?  Idk, maybe.  I feel that this board is ultra sensitive with posters stating the obvious truth at this stage in their careers.  Mahomes >>> Allen.   If there was a poll that excluded bills fans from voting  I’m confident that it would be around 99% in favor of Mahomes being the better qb. 

so what’s the problem?

 

I don't know that there's a "problem" but yes, I'd say you're a little sensitive on this issue.  If Josh plays a game like Mahomes played last night he'd be eviscerated on this board and in the media.  That's a fact.  Mahomes gets every benefit of the doubt right now even when he lays a Grade A egg.

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

but you can’t think that Allen is just as good as Mahomes?  Can you?

 

I think this year on the whole they played at an equal level. It depends how much you weigh the period of time that Allen played with a shoulder harness. Mahomes gets the edge right now because he has done it for multiple seasons and has looked better in the playoffs throughout his career. But the gap is not what you make it out to be. Mahomes has two elite pass catchers and much better depth at receiver than Allen does. He also has a competent running game. Allen has Diggs, a good slot receiver, and medium to low tier talent otherwise, with a bottom tier run game. The talent gap for their respective supporting casts is substantially larger than the talent gap between the QBs IMO.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

IMO  Give the guy a break.   He's not the worst person to enter the boards.  

 

 

 

Christ .   many Bills fans here love to troll 

[Captain_Quint]

2 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

jeffismagic 

Forgot all about that guy! Lol...

[Logic]

7 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

IMO  Give the guy a break.   He's not the worst person to enter the boards.  

 

 

 

Christ .   many Bills fans here love to troll 

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[NewEra]

54 minutes ago, eball said:

 

I don't know that there's a "problem" but yes, I'd say you're a little sensitive on this issue.  If Josh plays a game like Mahomes played last night he'd be eviscerated on this board and in the media.  That's a fact.  Mahomes gets every benefit of the doubt right now even when he lays a Grade A egg.

I don’t think Allen was eviscerated after the KC game.  He played poorly but didn’t really have a chance due to the pressure that was on him.   It was a very similar performance to what Mahomes did last night imo.  Both got dominated by the opposing pass rush.
 

You blame Mahomes for their offensive performance yesterday?  

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

I suppose we could ask him ...

 

 

I have always believed and still do that Zerovoltz is the same person as Jeffismagic.    He has denied it and actively tried to dispel it in the past.   Of course there is good reason to deny it.......it's obviously a weak look to be a Bills fan one day and then front running for another team because of one player decision.   Kinda' ruins your site cred.     

 

In related news @Teddy KGB also says he is not Ryan L Bilz.

 

There are a few people on here who have assumed different identities to re-start their persona/identity/reputation.

[GreggTX]

So apparently winning in the trenches and defense still matter in the 21st century, despite what so many think. I never doubted it. I hope Beane was watching.

[Stank_Nasty]

24 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I think this year on the whole they played at an equal level. It depends how much you weigh the period of time that Allen played with a shoulder harness. Mahomes gets the edge right now because he has done it for multiple seasons and has looked better in the playoffs throughout his career. But the gap is not what you make it out to be. Mahomes has two elite pass catchers and much better depth at receiver than Allen does. He also has a competent running game. Allen has Diggs, a good slot receiver, and medium to low tier talent otherwise, with a bottom tier run game. The talent gap for their respective supporting casts is substantially larger than the talent gap between the QBs IMO.

And if we're gonna do this for Allen can we please do this for the last 3 or 4 games of mahomes regular season when he posted a sub 90 rating? People having pounded the table about Allens mid-season regression but the same ones have no issues glossing over mahomes late season slump. A slump is a slump, no matter when it happens. 

 

I think Mahomes is the better qb, but Allens regular season was every bit on par with Mahomes.... if not just outright better.

[NewEra]

21 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I think this year on the whole they played at an equal level. It depends how much you weigh the period of time that Allen played with a shoulder harness. Mahomes gets the edge right now because he has done it for multiple seasons and has looked better in the playoffs throughout his career. But the gap is not what you make it out to be. Mahomes has two elite pass catchers and much better depth at receiver than Allen does. He also has a competent running game. Allen has Diggs, a good slot receiver, and medium to low tier talent otherwise, with a bottom tier run game. The talent gap for their respective supporting casts is substantially larger than the talent gap between the QBs IMO.

Much better depth at WR?  Idk man.  I’d take our 5 over their 5.  Sammy missed just about the entire season.

 

Not enough is said about the KC OLine.  They had the 31st ranked run blocking line this year.  Their offensive line was starting 4 backups last night, 3 of which were switching positions.  They started 3 backups for the last 12 weeks. 
 

Kelce is the tide turner and gives them the better supporting cast.  I agree that the chiefs are the better team talent wise, but I don’t think the gap as big as people are making it out to be.  
 

You guys can think w/e you want.  Based on their careers and what we saw this year, Mahomes is the more consistent and better overall QB and it’s not really a discussion.  Think whatever you guys want to think.  Hopefully Josh continues to improve and makes it a more worth while conversation.

 

There’s nothing else for me to say about this. My opinion is known.  Mahomes >>> Allen.  Agree to disagree 

[BADOLBILZ]

3 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

So apparently winning in the trenches and defense still matter in the 21st century, despite what so many think. I never doubted it. I hope Beane was watching.

 

 

No, apparently having the best overall roster matters.

 

That allows you to clear all of the hurdles in a matchup league.

 

The Tampa roster was artificially enhanced though........they built that roster thru years and years of missing the playoffs entirely and in 2019 they had a great defense and an explosive offense that just turned the ball over a crazy amount.    Then they added Brady, Gronk and AB on top of drafting early enough to get rookies of greater impact............that's not really a blueprint.

 

In most cases your team is going to have to pick and choose where to be strongest.   Pass rush should always have been second to QB play in terms of priority.

[prissythecat]

20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I have always believed and still do that Zerovoltz is the same person as Jeffismagic.    He has denied it and actively tried to dispel it in the past.   Of course there is good reason to deny it.......it's obviously a weak look to be a Bills fan one day and then front running for another team because of one player decision.   Kinda' ruins your site cred.     

 

In related news @Teddy KGB also says he is not Ryan L Bilz.

 

There are a few people on here who have assumed different identities to re-start their persona/identity/reputation.

 

Nah.  He admitted who he was a few seasons back finally.   Though he certainly did deny it for quite a while .

[WideNine]

6 hours ago, Southern_Bills said:

KC just learned the NFL may "like" them, but they LOVE Brady. You can't play Brady's Recievers physical, called everytime. 

 

Maybe now he sees the light. The goat, is not allowed to throw picks or fumble in a SB.

 

It is laid out clearly in Goodell 1:1  Thou shalt not hit the goat, nor suffereth any harm or negative plays to come upon him. 

 

Welcome to our decades of hell. Pull up a chair Zerovoltz, there is plenty of room. 😁

 

 

 

[NewEra]

17 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

And if we're gonna do this for Allen can we please do this for the last 3 or 4 games of mahomes regular season when he posted a sub 90 rating? People having pounded the table about Allens mid-season regression but the same ones have no issues glossing over mahomes late season slump. A slump is a slump, no matter when it happens. 

 

I think Mahomes is the better qb, but Allens regular season was every bit on par with Mahomes.... if not just outright better.

Why make things up?  I get you are trying to prove a point, but why lie?  Please explain? He had one game under 90 (atl) in the last part of the year and only had 2 all regular season.  Allen had 5 games under 80.  Mahomes was more consistent 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 minute ago, prissythecat said:

 

Nah.  He admitted who he was a few seasons back finally.   Though he certainly did deny it for quite a while .

 

 

Which one?   Or both?

[dave mcbride]

7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

No, apparently having the best overall roster matters.

 

That allows you to clear all of the hurdles in a matchup league.

 

The Tampa roster was artificially enhanced though........they built that roster thru years and years of missing the playoffs entirely and in 2019 they had a great defense and an explosive offense that just turned the ball over a crazy amount.    Then they added Brady, Gronk and AB on top of drafting early enough to get rookies of greater impact............that's not really a blueprint.

 

In most cases your team is going to have to pick and choose where to be strongest.   Pass rush should always have been second to QB play in terms of priority.

They did one other thing: they went and signed elite-level talents on D-line (JPP and Suh) who had a history of being extremely disruptive, not "solid" guys like Addison and Butler. The one proven elite NFL talent that the Bills have acquired in this regime is Diggs. Some of the other signings have been good - Beasley, Brown, Hyde, Poyer, Williams -- but none of those guys match Suh and JPP. 

[prissythecat]

4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Which one?   Or both?

 

 

Haha.    I was referring to Teddy KGB  aka Maury Ballstein / Ryan L Billz

[C.Biscuit97]

As bills fans, we’re making fun of a team for losing a super bowl??? 

[eball]

26 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I don’t think Allen was eviscerated after the KC game.  He played poorly but didn’t really have a chance due to the pressure that was on him.   It was a very similar performance to what Mahomes did last night imo.  Both got dominated by the opposing pass rush.
 

You blame Mahomes for their offensive performance yesterday?  

No, but all I’ve heard is that Mahomes is some sort of wizard who makes the impossible, possible. All people want to do today is make excuses for him. Josh actually made some things happen in the KC game, and his coach took the ball out of his hands twice when he might have made another play. Mahomes didn’t make much at all happen last night except throw up a few desperation heaves.

[Stank_Nasty]

12 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Why make things up?  I get you are trying to prove a point, but why lie?  Please explain? He had one game under 90 (atl) in the last part of the year and only had 2 all regular season.  Allen had 5 games under 80.  Mahomes was more consistent 

bro. chill.... i had saw a graphic back in december highlighting both qb's last 3 or 4 games and it had mahomes rating at 89 over that span. it was correct and so was i. there was one very poor game that pulled it down and the others hovered right at 90. he didnt play real good to end the season. The point is there was a dip in play from his usual and it was fairly large. if we point out where allen dipped and other qb's played well we can point out when another qb dipped and others outplayed him. Right?????... so no, i didnt lie. i'm quoting exactly what i saw. a dip in play where his cumulative rating was just below 90 in his last 4 games. please dont accuse me again. 

 

I already said i think mahomes is the better qb as of now. and now i see why another called you sensitive. geez man.

Edited February 8, 2021 by Stank_Nasty

[WideNine]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

As bills fans, we’re making fun of a team for losing a super bowl??? 

 

Small? Yes, but It feels cathartic having seen our team pummeled out of contention by KC.

 

I can see why the fans of other teams did that to us during our SB years.

 

We were better than most, but not the best.

 

Did not really hate KC until their defense started doing their impersonation of a Greg Williams' squad.

 

 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, WideNine said:

 

Small? Yes, but It feels cathartic having seen our team pummeled out of contention by KC.

 

I can see why the fans of other teams did that to us during our SB years.

 

We were better than most, but not the best.

 

Did not really hate KC until their defense started doing their impersonation of a Greg Williams' squad.

 

 

 

Eh, I was genuinely shocked by the game but I never really get anything rooting for another team to lose. Like when NE would lose a SB, I never really cared.

 

I was so happy with this season and what Allen has become, it’s all positive vibes. ✌️ 

[Stank_Nasty]

8 minutes ago, eball said:

No, but all I’ve heard is that Mahomes is some sort of wizard who makes the impossible, possible. All people want to do today is make excuses for him. Josh actually made some things happen in the KC game, and his coach took the ball out of his hands twice when he might have made another play. Mahomes didn’t make much at all happen last night except throw up a few desperation heaves.

You're 100% correct. its been nothing but a pity party for Mahomes today and how he dealt with so much pressure..... We didnt see anything of the sort for Allen 2 weeks ago.