Niagara Dude Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Like many of the rest of you, i am just heartbroken today, i was so hopeful we would get our day to shine and make up for those 4 Super Bowl losses. I am sure most you have read my posts during the season, yes i am one of the most pessimistic on this site and always the doubting Thomas. LMAO! Today i know something great is just getting started and the franchise is about to enjoy some great long-term success. Do we have some holes, yes and so does every other team in this league. The one thing that brings a smile to my face is despite the small holes to fill the most important position on the field is finally looking very good after so many years of searching for that guy. Yes Allen was not at his best yesterday but fans should remember that Patrick Mahomes also failed in his first attempt in a championship game, keep the faith because the sun is going to shine on this team and Allen is just getting started. So thanks to all Bills players who made this season my season of hope that "yes we can and we will be winning a Super Bowl in the coming years" Cheers Edited January 25, 2021 by Niagara Dude 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I totally agree i like to be a glass half full guy i'm not happy with the out come of the game yesterday like all Bills fans but we have taken a step closer to the goal and to be truthful am glad we lost that game than going to the SB and losing there if they go it's a must win game if not we will be considered the same ole Bills ! Beans wasn't the GM of the year for nothing he is very smart and now knows where the weakness lie weather it was in some of his draft picks or in FA's that he brought on board and i believe he will get it figured out . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 For the old timers, this game was a lot like the team of the late '80's. Right on the cusp, but not quite there yet. Honestly, we'll probably look back & be grateful it played out this way. I don't think there is much doubt that the lights were just a tiny bit too bright for us last night - and if that's the case in the AFCCG, it would have been a 500 watt experience in the upcoming SB, especially against Brady. It's better to get to the championship in steps, in some ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, T master said: I totally agree i like to be a glass half full guy i'm not happy with the out come of the game yesterday like all Bills fans but we have taken a step closer to the goal and to be truthful am glad we lost that game than going to the SB and losing there if they go it's a must win game if not we will be considered the same ole Bills ! Beans wasn't the GM of the year for nothing he is very smart and now knows where the weakness lie weather it was in some of his draft picks or in FA's that he brought on board and i believe he will get it figured out . You make a great point that as painful as losing yesterday was, the game also highlighted areas that need improvement. I loved watching Diggs stay on the field to watch KC celebrate. This will only fuel Diggs and Allen more getting ready for next season, that tells me how much he wanted it and cares about winning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 We need a wrecker on the DL. Hughes is a good player, but we need someone who gets home. KC had 3 guys getting in seemingly every other play. We're missing a Bruce and a Thurman. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: We need a wrecker on the DL. We're missing a Bruce and a Thurman. Winner winner chicken dinner!!! - This hits the nail on the head..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: Disagree. I think this team is overrated and got lucky to make it so far. Overrated based on your feelings or..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: Disagree. I think this team is overrated and got lucky to make it so far. ALERT: Giuseppe Tognarelli, the realist who many accuse of being wildly negative, thinks you're way off base with this take. The Bills were clearly the #2 team in the AFC (and probably the league). They're just not as good as the Chiefs. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Overrated based on your feelings or..? Overrated by beating more teams with winning records in 2020 than any other team in the NFL I presume. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 50 thou a year will buy a lotta beer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, NJKBillsfan said: What is main strength on this team? We have no running game, we have no pass rush, when we face a good passing QB we get LIT up. What is this team good at? Winning 15 games behind a rising superstar QB and making it the furthest we have in the Playoffs in the last 27 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Like I actually think there was an argument that the 2019 Bills were overrated. Winning 10 games but against a bad bunch of teams. The 2020 Bills beat The Rams The Dolphins twice The Seahawks The Steelers The Colts The Ravens All of whom won double digit games themselves. That is 7 wins against teams who were double digit win teams. We also beat the Raiders and the Cardinals who went 8-8. Of the Bills 15 wins this season only 6 came against teams with losing records. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: We need a wrecker on the DL. Hughes is a good player, but we need someone who gets home. KC had 3 guys getting in seemingly every other play. We're missing a Bruce and a Thurman. Is that all? I’m sure finding future HoF players at DE and RB should be a piece of cake...especially drafting 30th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: What is main strength on this team? We have no running game, we have no pass rush, when we face a good passing QB we get LIT up. What is this team good at? You conveniently left out passing the football? Thanks for setting me up... we had an elite passing offense this season, it’s not even debatable. That’s what the team is good at. If you’re arguing we’re not balanced, sure. If you’re arguing they are overrated because they were REALLY good at passing the ball and average to below average at everything else an route to winning 15 games against one of the 3 toughest schedules in the league... you need to re-evaluate your stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, NJKBillsfan said: Yes we went 13-3 in the regular season but to be fair the schedule was pretty weak. Look at the last 6 or 7 games...they were all against easy opponents. And in the 1st round we got outplayed by the Colts (7th seed) and easily could've been one and done. Please see the below post from Gunner. You're a buffoon if you think our schedule was weak. 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Like I actually think there was an argument that the 2019 Bills were overrated. Winning 10 games but against a bad bunch of teams. The 2020 Bills beat The Rams The Dolphins twice The Seahawks The Steelers The Colts The Ravens All of whom won double digit games themselves. That is 7 wins against teams who were double digit win teams. We also beat the Raiders and the Cardinals who went 8-8. Of the Bills 15 wins this season only 6 came against teams with losing records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: Yes we went 13-3 in the regular season but to be fair the schedule was pretty weak. Look at the last 6 or 7 games...they were all against easy opponents. And in the 1st round we got outplayed by the Colts (7th seed) and easily could've been one and done. You can’t just assert the schedule was weak, it was one of the toughest schedules in the league, and the toughest amongst playoff teams. SOS at .512 was the highest of all playoff teams. SOV at .471 was the highest of all playoff teams The 7 seed Colts were an 11-5 football team that was a tiebreaker away from being the 4 seed. Try again. Edited January 25, 2021 by JGMcD2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, NJKBillsfan said: Yes we went 13-3 in the regular season but to be fair the schedule was pretty weak. Look at the last 6 or 7 games...they were all against easy opponents. And in the 1st round we got outplayed by the Colts (7th seed) and easily could've been one and done. Please...pretty sure all season long we were being reminded that we had one of the most difficult schedules in the league and we had one of the best strengths of victory of anyone...it was all just nonsense now, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: Yes we went 13-3 in the regular season but to be fair the schedule was pretty weak. Look at the last 6 or 7 games...they were all against easy opponents. And in the 1st round we got outplayed by the Colts (7th seed) and easily could've been one and done. So if you ignore the good teams they beat and pretend they lost games they actually won they are overrated? Got ya. #logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, NJKBillsfan said: That's where we can disagree. I just don't see this team as being an "elite passing offense". If we really had an elite passing offense why didn't the offense do more against Baltimore or KC? They’re only good or bad by comparison, in comparison to NFL passing offenses in 2020, they were elite. Why didn’t we? Because Baltimore and KC are arguably the two best pass defenses in the entire league. Sprinkling in our entire WR room being hurt, and our #2 option playing a with broken leg, doesn’t help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, Kwai San said: r chicken dinner!!! - This hits the nail on the head..... 35 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: Disagree. I think this team is overrated and got lucky to make it so far. Nick Wright is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Only problem I have with the loss is...some of us aren't getting any younger. 👴 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The problem is that we were shown not to be a great player or two away from where KC is. We are more like 5 great players away. Those players are hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 "The future is very bright" Mahomes has replaced Brady as the Bills kryptonite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: KC's defense is only average. I mentioned it earlier. They’ve been very good against WR. Their excel there. They don’t do very well against TE or RB. Those are the positions that gave them the biggest issues this year down the stretch after guys like L’Jarious Snead emerged and made a significant impact in their pass defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: So if you ignore the good teams they beat and pretend they lost games they actually won they are overrated? Got ya. #logic it and blue gets ignored if you’re the Patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) I agree 100% with the OP. We had an amazing season, 13-3 plus two playoff wins, exceeding ALL expectations, learned how to win in playoff football, Allen is 24, AND we plenty to work on and improve. In two weeks it will be clearer, after KC waxes the Bucs, that we lost to the best team. But KC can't do it every season. The Pats run was 9 Super Bowls in 18 years, meaning there were 9 seasons where they got beat in the AFC. We will beat KC or someone else will, or they'll have injuries or an off-year. To me there is every chance Buffalo brings home that ring in the next five years. LET'S GO! Edited January 26, 2021 by Ray Stonada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 PS the level of negativity of some fans, after our best season in 30 years, surprises me. It's like the negativity is hard-wired no matter how well we do. If some of you were running a team, you'd be blowing up your team after every loss, cutting guys who had one bad game, and generally running around like a chicken with its head cut off. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Ray Stonada said: PS the level of negativity of some fans, after our best season in 30 years, surprises me. It's like the negativity is hard-wired no matter how well we do. If some of you were running a team, you'd be blowing up your team after every loss, cutting guys who had one bad game, and generally running around like a chicken with its head cut off. Yea that is pretty much what we do around here........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 14 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said: Disagree. I think this team is overrated and got lucky to make it so far. DVOA disagrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 14 hours ago, Charles Romes said: The problem is that we were shown not to be a great player or two away from where KC is. We are more like 5 great players away. Those players are hard to find. Especially drafting near the bottom of each round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 It is still dark at my house ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea that is pretty much what we do around here........ I mean, I get it, it hurts to lose and even more, this is the first time in months another team has been clearly superior to us. But still, you gotta have faith... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2021 teams: Miami: new OC New England new QB* NY Jets new HC/OC/QB Atlanta Falcons new HC/OC Carolina Panthers new OC Houston Texans new HC/OC/QB* Indianapolis Colts new QB Pittsburgh Steelers new OC at Miami: new OC at New England new QB* at NY Jets new HC/OC/QB at Jacksonville new HC/OC/QB at New Orleans new QB at Tampa Bay Buccaneers Same at Tennessee Titans new OC at Kansas City Chiefs maybe a new OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 18 hours ago, Charles Romes said: The problem is that we were shown not to be a great player or two away from where KC is. We are more like 5 great players away. Those players are hard to find. I'd disagree w/ the characterization of "great." We need to upgrade at certain positions, but after so many years in the drought where we had JAG's everywhere, and the offseason "needs" list was epic, catching KC in one offseason seems very feasible. I don't think the gap was as stark as we saw the other night. Get a better running game & go into the re-match with a receiving corps that isn't as compromised by injuries, and we're right there on offense. Obviously, we also need a better line and pass rush on the other side, but I could see a good draft and a key 1-2 FA acquisitions getting that unit up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) I believe the future is bright as well but I'm sure the 49ers faithful though the same thing last year after making the Super Bowl. If the Bills come to work focused next season the sky is the limit. If they come in thinking they are all that, it will be a rough season. The talent is there. I believe the work ethic is as well. It truly is up to them just how good they want to be as a team moving forward. Edited January 26, 2021 by Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 19 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said: That's where we can disagree. I just don't see this team as being an "elite passing offense". If we really had an elite passing offense why didn't the offense do more against Baltimore or KC? It doesn't matter whether you "see" this team as an elite passing offense. There are many ways to measure this, and all of them say you are completely wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Beast said: I believe the future is bright as well but I'm sure the 49ers faithful though the same thing last year after making the Super Bowl. If the Bills come to work focused next season the sky is the limit. If they come in thinking they are all that, it will be a rough season. The talent is there. I believe the work ethic is as well. It truly is up to them just how good they want to be as a team moving forward. Obviously they had a great season and a lot of the talent is in place especially at the most important position. But there are concerns with this roster which have been pointed out by many posters. They need to upgrade the lines on both sides of the ball. Next season they have to have a more balanced offense as they were one dimensional this year. Think of how much more dangerous Allen can be with a running game. Defensively they need to do a better job in rushing the passer. I do think the future is bright with Beane and McDermott though. Hopefully Beane can make the necessary moves to improve this roster to help them take that next step and win a Super Bowl. This offseason with the draft and FA figures to be an interesting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 22 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: We need a wrecker on the DL. Hughes is a good player, but we need someone who gets home. KC had 3 guys getting in seemingly every other play. We're missing a Bruce and a Thurman. The AFCCG exposed more weaknesses then I thought . Our Lines are soft d line is a complete marshmallow that gets pushed around. The O line is usually good at pass pro but sucks running. We need an athletic road grater ( wish Teller was still here) we also a better TE. When they take away the back end of the passing game and we are given the underneath stuff we should make teams pay . KC knew we couldn’t and that’s huge. I heard people say we are close I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 39 minutes ago, Beast said: I believe the future is bright as well but I'm sure the 49ers faithful though the same thing last year after making the Super Bowl. If the Bills come to work focused next season the sky is the limit. If they come in thinking they are all that, it will be a rough season. The talent is there. I believe the work ethic is as well. It truly is up to them just how good they want to be as a team moving forward. this makes the beat down a little easier to accept. There is less likelihood of complacency than if we hung with the chiefs for 3 quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: The AFCCG exposed more weaknesses then I thought . Our Lines are soft d line is a complete marshmallow that gets pushed around. The O line is usually good at pass pro but sucks running. We need an athletic road grater ( wish Teller was still here) we also a better TE. When they take away the back end of the passing game and we are given the underneath stuff we should make teams pay . KC knew we couldn’t and that’s huge. I heard people say we are close I disagree. Yeah, KC is way ahead on the lines and even on defense overall. Their defense is fast, hits hard, and always harasses the QB. They are going to curb stomp the Bucs. the game won't be close. Edited January 26, 2021 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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