whatdrought Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 an interesting idea. personally I would tell anyone I liked to stay farrrrr from that place. That being said, we’d get a couple third rounders if it did happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Frazier is a solid guy. I think he would do well there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I like Frazier. I also like third round draft picks 🤔 9 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Would only wish him well if he gets the gig but selfishly I want to keep the band together. But it is true the extra 3rds would ease the pain a bit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Leslie. Don't do it. That franchise is screwed for the next couple of years. You are just being set up to fail there. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 One thing is for sure: with how meticulously prepared Beane and McDermott are and how attractive these Bills coordinator jobs are now, I have absolute faith that good replacements will be found. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Coastie said: Would only wish him well if he gets the gig but selfishly I want to keep the band together. But it is true the extra 3rds would ease the pain a bit. What do you mean by extra 3rds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 This topic will potentially be a gold mine in 9 hours. That said I'm fine if Frazier leaves, even if we weren't getting draft picks out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: What do you mean by extra 3rds? Compensatory draft picks if a minority coordinator is elevated from your staff to a head coaching gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Logic said: I like Frazier. I also like third round draft picks 🤔 Daboll is easy to say his loss would be huge. Frazier is much harder because it’s so much harder to tell what his specific value is. I’d be fine with finding out, but I’m happier to keep him. Replacing our missing 4th with a 3rd would be very nice though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I would absolutely trade Frazier for two 3rd round picks. This defense could use a bit of a reset anyways. Lots of fat to cut this off-season. And we need to start hitting on some draft picks. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, whatdrought said: Daboll is easy to say his loss would be huge. Frazier is much harder because it’s so much harder to tell what his specific value is. I’d be fine with finding out, but I’m happier to keep him. Replacing our missing 4th with a 3rd would be very nice though... McD would figure it out or just call plays himself. Frazier is a good dude and a good coach but he's much more replaceable IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Process said: I would absolutely trade Frazier for two 3rd round picks. This defense could use a bit of a reset anyways. Lots of fat to cut this off-season. And we need to start hitting on some draft picks. when it’s put that way it definitely seems more doable. That’s essentially saying you’d trade him for Dawson Knox and Zach Moss, which I think most of us would.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I can see the attraction of a calming presense type like Frazier to Houston's ownership. But I am not sure it is enough to quell the locker room and Watson in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) I think the Bills have a DC in waiting with John Butler (DB coach) or Eric Washington (DL coach). Frazier would bring a calming presence to the Texans who are in complete chaos right now. Edited January 16, 2021 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Buffalo wins tonight he is gone imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Even though Houston is a dumpster fire and will be for several years...you can't pass-up a HC'ing gig if offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the Bills have a DC in waiting with John Butler (DB coach) or Eric Washington (DL coach). Frazier would bring a calming presence to the Texans who are in complete chaos right now. Washington’s DL hasn’t done much in his first year to make me jump at the idea that he’s deserving of a promotion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Leslie. Don't do it. That franchise is screwed for the next couple of years. You are just being set up to fail there. this... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the Bills have a DC in waiting with John Butler (DB coach) or Eric Washington (DL coach). Frazier would bring a calming presence to the Texans who are in complete chaos right now. I feel like Frazier is recieving the credit for improving the defense and getting more aggressive in places. I 100% feel that was Mcdermott. I think they hire from within or outside does really matter its Mcdermotts scheme and defense. He just does not handle the game day calling of plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Coastie said: Compensatory draft picks if a minority coordinator is elevated from your staff to a head coaching gig. I thought that was just a concept. Did they actually approve it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Does frazier want a head coaching job still or just a nice pay bump and new contract from the bills? I do think he would make a great choice for the Texans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I thought that was just a concept. Did they actually approve it? Yup https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/14/nfl-compensatory-picks-for-minority-coaches-and-executives-explained/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I thought that was just a concept. Did they actually approve it? I lost track of it as well and thought it died in the conceptual phase, but it’s active I guess. The 49ers got them for Saleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, whatdrought said: an interesting idea. personally I would tell anyone I liked to stay farrrrr from that place. That being said, we’d get a couple third rounders if it did happen. Let’s see how serious a candidate he is after today’s game. Every pre game show today is talking about how Ravens beat us last year and how we gave up so many yards to “ even Philip Rivers”, expecting the Ravens run game to be unstoppable. Hope Mcd and Frazier are up to this. Hell, i give up 300 yards passing to Lamar but I’d be darned if I would let them run for 250 plus and beat us running when everyone in the world knows they are a running team and we are “ weak” against the run. If Frazier let’s the d get run into the ground , I am rethinking him as a head coach. Calm is great , but winning is what you get those big bucks for ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I thought that was just a concept. Did they actually approve it? Yes. Two third round picks will be awarded to us if Frazier is hired as head coach. One in 2021 and another in 2022. These picks will be after the usual compensatory picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I guess it would surprise me....as LF took a fail in Minn. But, then again, Marv Levy took a fail in KC and came back to lead the Bills to greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Honestly it sorta makes sense. Houston is a toxic atmosphere that the big name coaching hires are steering clear of and Frazier is a HC retread that definitely couldn't have landed one of the better jobs. I really don't want continuity changes in both our offense and defense, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I lost track of it as well and thought it died in the conceptual phase, but it’s active I guess. The 49ers got them for Saleh. Are we sure he isn't white, but really tan? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said: Are we sure he isn't white, but really tan? He's of Lebanese descent and is considered an Arab American. He's the first Muslim head coach and speaks both Arabic and English. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Logic said: I like Frazier. I also like third round draft picks 🤔 I wonder if that rule would apply, since he’s already been a head coach before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Coastie said: Compensatory draft picks if a minority coordinator is elevated from your staff to a head coaching gig. wow. have a good career with the Texans, coach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I wonder if that rule would apply, since he’s already been a head coach before. That’s an interesting question?.... 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: He's of Lebanese descent and is considered an Arab American. He's the first Muslim head coach and speaks both Arabic and English. Thanks, had seen like 5 pictures of the guy ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Wonder how much is because they believe in Frazier and how much is to try and placate Watson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Big Turk said: Wonder how much is because they believe in Frazier and how much is to try and placate Watson? If they want to placate Watson they will hire bienemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said: Thanks, had seen like 5 pictures of the guy ever All in a mask as well! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Would a genius OC born and raised around Rochester count as a minority? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Frazier seems like a guy that every single player trusts and respects. He’s got a John Wooden and Tony Dungy demeanor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I wish him the best of he gets the job. It would be crazy if we lost BOTH our coordinators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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