buffalojedwardo Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 he has to have some kind of weakness were all human. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, FieldGeneral said: If you noticed on the 1st TD, most QBs would have gone down immediately to avoid injury or run out of bounds. Allen appears to always be looking to get rid of the ball. He's either trying that or fighting for extra yards. He's gotten much better at not doing that type of thing. He's thrown the ball away many times, eating the play, when he realizes it's not working. In a good way. He needs to eliminate his habit of turning around, running straight away from the center towards his own end zone, and then getting sacked for like a 15 yard loss. He did that in the Colts game, but I thought he had learned not to do that. It's an opportunity to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Reminds me of Ray Bourque. His gloves would get so wet with sweat he had to use a new pair for each period. He also did the trick of putting baby powder in them to try and keep them dry. I do that in my shorts... keeps the king and lads swinging around freely all day... and smelling fresh too no matter how many 300lb lifts I have done. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, T&C said: I do that in my shorts... keeps the king and lads swinging around freely all day... and smelling fresh too no matter how many 300lb lifts I have done. TMI, man. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 59 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: TMI, man. omg...the guy could only get one thumb on it for the vid........lol 😂😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: It's possible. He's not really careless with the ball like Mike Vick or someone. He tucks it but it just pops out. Strange. He's got massive hands, so it's not tiny hands. I'm sticking with the excessive sweating. To be fair, Allen is trying to constantly make a play downfield...He keeps the ball and his arm in throwing motion till the last moment...he is always susceptible for fumble. When running the ball, he keeps his ball up (he is not a RB) instead of tucking . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 hours ago, HOUSE said: He fails to exert the proper pressure on both sides of the ball hence causing the ball to escape to unfriendly opposing players On a related note, what is The Deflator up to these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, Augie said: On a related note, what is The Deflator up to these days? McBeane asleep at the wheel again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He's got 31 fumbles over the last 2 years. It's a concern. Most just seem to pop out. Maybe he's got what Brian Campbell had. Excessive sweating. His arms are might be drenched in sweat. Maybe Brian Campbell can help him. People seem to gloss over the fact that he fumbles when he's not hit very hard. Saw this alot his first 2 seasons. It's something we're just going to have to tolerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I think its because he's so tough to bring down and he fights to break tackles that he gives defenders many more opportunities to strip the ball. Its not really hard hits knocking the ball loose it seems to mostly be strips and punch outs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 He’s going to fumble every once in awhile. Every QB does. Enjoy his greatness and overcome his mistakes. The mistakes will never stop. Just like every QB in the history of football. Just be happy that we have him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) I think it's mental more than physical. Like you say he isn't holding the ball carelessly. I think he's so focused on staying upright and fighting off the defender that he isn't 100% focused on gripping the ball. That little bit of leeway is enough for defenders to punch it out. Imagine trying to use all your strength to resist a 300 lb behemoth while simultaneously holding onto a weirdly shaped ball that another super athlete is punching at. Most QBs in that situation just fall down and focus on nothing but holding onto the ball. Edited January 12, 2021 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Sir Allens hands are so strong he don't want to start a deflate gate 2.0😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 His go to move is the stiff arm which means the ball is secured by only one while he is fighting off defenders. I doubt he actually fumbled more often than other QBs this year but they tend to look different based on his style. Someone would have to show me the numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakingfane Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Problem is obvious. He holds the ball upside down... and backwards. Laces should be in! Less snaggability, more friction on the bod. Edited January 12, 2021 by wakingfane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 hmmmmmmmmmm this guy disagrees with the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 11 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Josh has to keep it high and tight!! Today's version or the 60's version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 13 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He's not careless with the ball. Many of his fumbles come with it tucked in and tight. It's a mystery to me. Any suggestions? Also lost in the Allen fumble vs Colts was Feliciano go destroyed on that play. Embarrassed, the real reason for the fumble. Still though, Allen had it tucked tight and it just pops out. So I think the play Saturday is an example of one where Josh has to give up and eat the sack sooner. Feliciano got well beaten (he is the one guys on our line who plays the run better than the pass) and once Josh can't rid of it immediately he should just do a Tom Brady, collapse to his knees and cradle the football. That however is not who Josh Allen is. I think here are numerous of those plays where even in the arms of defenders he is still fighting like a fly in a fly trap and wriggling his arms about and the ball gets popped. Not sure you will ever cure it. He is always gonna have that bit of hero ball it is part of what makes him great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Are we sure the fumble rate is computed accurately ? I learned a few weeks back on this board that a fumble only happens if ball hits ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Does he have small Daunta Culpepper size hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Needs Stickum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonley1180 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 because he's looking to pitch, shovel, or throw it on his way down %25 of the time. hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On GMFB they say it's "Sugar High Josh Allen" trying to make to much happen last year they referred to it as Josh trying to play "Hero Ball" or something like that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Hopefully Allen is trending in the right direction. He cut the fumbles down a lot this year. Credited with 9 but remember one of those is really on Moss. He was a fumbling machine his first two years. Much less so this year. I'll take 8-10 fumbles a year with everything Allen gives us. Maybe that number will go even lower next year. Give him a mulligan on the Jets game where he had two fumbles right out the gate and it wasn't a bad year at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 15 hours ago, Michael1962 said: I think part of it is because he is such a fierce competitor that he doesn't want to give up on plays. That plus another factors is that the other side identifies him as a fumbler and they work hard to knock it out of his grasp. Yeah most QBs would have just taken the sack on the play where he fumbled and it would be over. Allen just will not give up though, it's great but can be an issue too. Just gotta accept that this can happen but he often breaks free and makes a huge play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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