Special K Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, CSBill said: They are getting roasted for it. ... Did they bring back Al Riveron for this game? Sure looked like it. That was Phil Luckett level incompetence....complete garbage call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I'm not a fan of that officiating crew. I think they did s good job from what I could see. They let them play equally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 In a playoff game they didn't have the wherewithal to blow the whistle and at least feel the need to review. They were perfectly fine with just going to the next play, which is completely against then having the ability to do that within 2:00. I believe they reviewed and pride for not reviewing by their choice made them not overturn the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 To bring up "but what about's" when your teams wins..... .....well, I'm not that kind of fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, I am the egg man said: To bring up "but what about's" when your teams wins..... .....well, I'm not that kind of fan. What? This is a board to discuss a football game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, White Linen said: In a playoff game they didn't have the wherewithal to blow the whistle and at least feel the need to review. They were perfectly fine with just going to the next play, which is completely against then having the ability to do that within 2:00. I believe they reviewed and pride for not reviewing by their choice made them not overturn the call. Then why did McDermott get his TO back if htey lost the challenge? It was because the officials stopped the game for a review at the same moment McDermott called TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Simon said: Then why did McDermott get his TO back if htey lost the challenge? It was because the officials stopped the game for a review at the same moment McDermott called TO. So they claimed not clear but overed tracks well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I must admit. The call being so obvious and so wrong has ruined the entire win for me. I was so mad that I wasn't even happy when they won. I'm still not happy now. Why??? Because it's clear the nfl still wants the bills to lose. It's painfully obvious that the NFL puts it's fingers on scale. It's more obvious this year than any before. Just look at the way they bent over backwards for the Titans, but make the Broncos play with a practice squad WR at QB. Remember last year? Remember the Bills getting that kickoff touchdown....that was erased? No review, no wrong call made and it's being corrected, just....canceled? Remember the Texans getting 3-4 seconds extra on the playclock on critical downs? The NFL will simply do what they can to sway the outcome of games to their 'preferred' winner. And the Bills are clearly not the preferred winner. That's something that just ticks me off and I can't seem to get over it. Face it, we won't be winning the Superbowl if the NFL doesn't want you there. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Who knew I would have to see which officiating crews were reffing each game moving forward as part of my weekly status checks?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, peterpan said: I must admit. The call being so obvious and so wrong has ruined the entire win for me. I was so mad that I wasn't even happy when they won You might have some bigger issues than football that you want to address. 🙄 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 It was a really bad call and the replay explanation was even worse. What exactly was the call NFL? Was he down? Was he touched? Was it not a fumble? Had he given himself up? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: I think they did s good job from what I could see. They let them play equally. i thought they did an excellent job until that fumble- three plays could have gone either way but they made the correct call- two bills pass plays on the sidelines the non-interception call 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Simon said: You might have some bigger issues than football that you want to address. 🙄 Yeah, you never know what his issues may be. He may have bigman-itis for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: Let me tell you Sean should give himself a game ball for that timeout after that play was just brilliant. This has been brought up by a lot of folks in national media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: I think they did s good job from what I could see. They let them play equally. Until that missed fumble, I would agree, but by and large, I don't think I've ever seen this crew call a totally clean game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: This has been brought up by a lot of folks in national media He’s come a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, peterpan said: I must admit. The call being so obvious and so wrong has ruined the entire win for me. I was so mad that I wasn't even happy when they won. I'm still not happy now. Why??? Because it's clear the nfl still wants the bills to lose. It's painfully obvious that the NFL puts it's fingers on scale. It's more obvious this year than any before. Just look at the way they bent over backwards for the Titans, but make the Broncos play with a practice squad WR at QB. Remember last year? Remember the Bills getting that kickoff touchdown....that was erased? No review, no wrong call made and it's being corrected, just....canceled? Remember the Texans getting 3-4 seconds extra on the playclock on critical downs? The NFL will simply do what they can to sway the outcome of games to their 'preferred' winner. And the Bills are clearly not the preferred winner. That's something that just ticks me off and I can't seem to get over it. Face it, we won't be winning the Superbowl if the NFL doesn't want you there. Hi Peter, have things panned out for you lately? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Simon said: Then why did McDermott get his TO back if htey lost the challenge? It was because the officials stopped the game for a review at the same moment McDermott called TO. I think they gave it back because the officials in the booth/ NYC realized that they had made a major mistake by not instantly reviewing it and telling the officials to blow it dead. There was several seconds for them to review it and its the replay officials upstairs that have to intervene and tell the refs to stop everything. They waited until the very last second? to blow it dead simultaneously with the time out call by McD that is beyond incompetent. Then they double down on their ineptness by not overturning the no fumble call. Totally inexcusable! I bet those idiots were breathing a sigh of relief that the Bills won after taking a longer look at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Would 80,000 fans have driven them to make the right call? That's knee going up, NOT down. 1st Quarter, that play is reversed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, KCNC said: OMG don't get me started. I've never heard my wife curse so much. I was just in shock... I couldn’t believe it either. Once I saw the replay, I stopped being nervous because I thought there was no way they couldn’t overturn it. I told my family, “I’m not nervous anymore, the bills just won”. Then, they didn’t overturn it. It was crazy! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Simon said: Then why did McDermott get his TO back if htey lost the challenge? It was because the officials stopped the game for a review at the same moment McDermott called TO. That is correct, I think the official sad that after they announced it wasn’t being overturned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Look at Poyer! Got the "Eye of the Tiger", cocked and loaded ready to punch that pigskin!!! 👏 👏 👏 Edited January 10, 2021 by ExiledInIllinois 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Warcodered said: Lol clearly off the ground and Poyer still has not touched him!!! How is that not clear?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Virtually everyone agrees it was what is was: a fumble. Thankfully the Bills overcame it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: They waited until the very last second? to blow it dead simultaneously with the time out call by McD that is beyond incompetent They always wait as long as they can 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 55 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: No the officials were going to let the Colts run a play until McD called a TO. The idiots in the replay booth realized at that time there might have been a legit fumble and then reviewed it. If Mcd doesnt do that the Colts run a play and there is no review. Thats how insanely incompetent the booth crew were in this game! This! The League is CRIMINAL with the "pushing" outcomes! Thank Gawd McD ate his brain food this morning 🌄!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Other than Riveron.... is there a single person who doesn’t think that was a fumble. Unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: I think they gave it back because the officials in the booth/ NYC realized that they had made a major mistake by not instantly reviewing it and telling the officials to blow it dead. There was several seconds for them to review it and its the replay officials upstairs that have to intervene and tell the refs to stop everything. They waited until the very last second? to blow it dead simultaneously with the time out call by McD that is beyond incompetent. Then they double down on their ineptness by not overturning the no fumble call. Totally inexcusable! I bet those idiots were breathing a sigh of relief that the Bills won after taking a longer look at it! The replay team is supposed to wait until the ball is about to be snapped. If they stop it earlier it benefits the offense like a free timeout. What we don’t see and can’t know is exactly when the buzz comes, but McD did it right to make sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Virtually everyone agrees it was what is was: a fumble. Thankfully the Bills overcame it. Yup! If they are gonna go down the tech, camera wormhole... Then unpack the micrometers! I don't wanna hear any excuses. Clearly Poyer didn't touch him. Poyer was loaded ready to punch the ball upon getting up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Overall the refs today were mediocre. but that was before the garbage fumble decision at the end. That unfortunately pushed them into a crap rating. They confirmed some good replay calls but they did miss 2 facemasks on Bills players and at least 3 delay of games on Rivers (that were quite clear). One good thing is they didn't call any BS holding penalties or any blind side blocks. But our standards are so low when it comes to the NFL officials that even mostly poor performances by these officials are now held up as acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Other than Riveron.... is there a single person who doesn’t think that was a fumble. Unbelievable Down ruled on field. They will say: Inconclusive. It was anything but. They simply don't have balls to end game on that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: This! The League is CRIMINAL with the "pushing" outcomes! Thank Gawd McD ate his brain food this morning 🌄!!!! That’s what I’ve been saying. The only reason the play stopped was because of a timeout. The Bills last timeout. From the time of the player “down”, the fumble, the recovery, the questioning, setting the ball, lining up, running a play.... there was plenty of time. Lucky we had a timeout. If not, that pass, that play the Colt ran after would have counted.... if so, you really think the officials would have said “that play didn’t count”... now the Colts get robbed and it’s a bigger mess. The only reason it was reviewed was thankfully the bills had a timeout and used it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Overall the refs today were mediocre. but that was before the garbage fumble decision at the end. That unfortunately pushed them into a crap rating. They confirmed some good replay calls but they did miss 2 facemasks on Bills players and at least 3 delay of games on Rivers (that were quite clear). One good thing is they didn't call any BS holding penalties or any blind side blocks. But our standards are so low when it comes to the NFL officials that even mostly poor performances by these officials are now held up as acceptable. They didn't rule the TreyDay coverage incomplete a PI, late in game. At least they got that going. I thought Bills were gonna get screwed on that play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I think the NFL thinks they can get away with anything by saying it’s inconclusive . In actuality, we had a great game they were probably wishing went to OT to boost more ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Mighty Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 It is fairly evident to me that Al Riveron is satan incarnate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: High level meeting smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Poyer got screwed out of a brilliant game winning play (definitely appeared to actually let the receiver get back up) because refs are afraid to make a call that ends a playoff game. 10 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Overall the refs today were mediocre. but that was before the garbage fumble decision at the end. That unfortunately pushed them into a crap rating. They confirmed some good replay calls but they did miss 2 facemasks on Bills players and at least 3 delay of games on Rivers (that were quite clear). One good thing is they didn't call any BS holding penalties or any blind side blocks. But our standards are so low when it comes to the NFL officials that even mostly poor performances by these officials are now held up as acceptable. How about at least one ref trying to call that one Colts sideline pass a catch? The one that doinked right off the receiver and bounced away. That automatically disqualifies the refs from mediocre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Poyer got screwed out of a brilliant game winning play (definitely appeared to actually let the receiver get back up) because refs are afraid to make a call that ends a playoff game. How about at least one ref trying to call that one Colts sideline pass a catch? The one that doinked right off the receiver and bounced away. That automatically disqualifies the refs from mediocre. Yes I forgot about that one!! That was also bizarre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, MJS said: Riveron seems to blow more calls than he gets right. It's crazy to me the guy is stil in that position. I hope a media storm grows with this one to throw some more egg on his fat face (and I don't even know if he's fat) Why can't the NFL be competent in this review process. How hard is it with some of these calls. I think the NFL has also made a mistake to put a face (possibly a fat one) on the whole replay system to make it (at least appear) like it comes down to one incompetent buffoon. In the NHL people don't care about some guy named Jacques Rivieron - it's the Situation Room in Toronto - at least gives the impression of a crack team of experts in a room full of wall to wall HD monitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: He was clearly off the ground but was difficult to say with 100% certainly that Poyer's hand wasn't touching his back prior to the knee coming up off the ground.. I don't think it was, but since they called him down by contact becomes difficult to overrule if can't tell with absolute certainty he wasn't touching him . If it had been ruled a fumble, never would have been over ruled either. Oh man the picture evidence is clear. You seriously need glasses. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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