dhg Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 51 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I had that same question. Vacant? IIRC, if there is a unanimous First Team selection at a position (ie. Kelce), there is no Second Team All Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 So based on the way voting works, this means someone voted for Cole Beasley as one of their top 3 WRs in the league this year. That's pretty wild. The only thing I can think is maybe they tried to treat it like a real team and therefore gave a vote to Beasley as exclusively a slot guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Beasley making it is actually shocking to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I'm surprised Jamal Adams made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 49 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Awesome achievement for all those guys. Beasley just shouldn't be there though. He had a great season for himself, but this is just a weird quirk with the way the voting works where receiving 1 outlier vote from someone was enough to tie. There were definitely more deserving WRs this year though. Beasley absolutely deserves it as recognition for being the top slot WR in the league this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, dhg said: IIRC, if there is a unanimous First Team selection at a position (ie. Kelce), there is no Second Team All Pro that’s exactly correct. Since the voters only vote for a single TE, there is no 2nd team TE this year because no one came in 2nd in the voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Bferra13 said: So Diggs has to be first team. Very cool! He had the 2nd most votes and only 1 less than Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Beasley absolutely deserves it as recognition for being the top slot WR in the league this year. Beasley is a good player but you’re fooling yourself if you think he deserves to be an All Pro. Edited January 8, 2021 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Beasley making it is actually shocking to me. He only had 1 vote but 1 was enough to get on the 2nd team. Poyer had 3 but several other guys had more. A lot of Bills had 1-3 votes and were not 2nd team All-Pros. I'm guessing the one person who voted for Beasely wanted a true slot receiver on their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Just now, auburnbillsbacker said: He only had 1 vote but 1 was enough to get on the 2nd team. Poyer had 3 but several other guys had more. A lot of Bills had 1-3 votes and were not 2nd team All-Pros. I'm guessing the one person who voted for Beasely wanted a true slot receiver on their roster. You can thank Peter King for that vote. His reasoning behind it was if he was a QB and had to go against a defense, he’d want Beasley in the slot. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Just now, Bangarang said: You can thank Peter King for that vote. His reasoning behind it was if he was a QB and had to go against a defense, he’d want Beasley in the slot. I don't disagree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 This sounds expensive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Metcalf only 1 vote after the start to the season he had? Dude really fell off a cliff in the second half I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Metcalf only 1 vote after the start to the season he had? Dude really fell off a cliff in the second half I guess. he had some monster games. He also had 4 games with 3 or fewer catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, DCOrange said: So based on the way voting works, this means someone voted for Cole Beasley as one of their top 3 WRs in the league this year. That's pretty wild. The only thing I can think is maybe they tried to treat it like a real team and therefore gave a vote to Beasley as exclusively a slot guy. Peter King said he voted for Beasley because he was the best slot WR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Metcalf only 1 vote after the start to the season he had? Dude really fell off a cliff in the second half I guess. He still finished 6th in yards and 8th in TDs but you can only vote for 3 guys and Adams and Diggs were locks for 2 of those spots and really, Tyreek Hill should have been a lock for the 3rd as well. At any rate, DK was awesome this year but still not one of the top 3 WRs in the league this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, auburnbillsbacker said: I don't disagree with him. Seems like a faulty way of using your vote. Do you honestly believe Beasley is one of the 6 best WRs in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Odd change this year to the roster. Last year the AP all pro team had a flex position on both the 1st and 2nd teams. And only two WR spots on both the 1st and 2nd teams. The 2020 team they got rid of the flex spot and named three WR's for both the 1st and 2nd team (five for the 2nd team because three receivers tied with 1 vote each for the third spot on the second team). And the 2019 team the Flex player named for both the first and second team was also the RB named for that same team (McCaffery and Henry). Glad they changed it this year as having the same player seems kind of dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Great for Bease. He deserves it and it takes the sting out of not getting the 1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, KRT88 said: Imagine had we kept Wyatt Teller! Always liked him but when we traded him there wasn't a place for him on the line. Great for Wyatt! He had and still has trouble in pass protection, not good for a pass-first offense. Might be better than Boettger in this respect, though, and he certainly is better as a run blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Anyone have the vote counts? I told you Beasley would get the recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Seems like a faulty way of using your vote. Do you honestly believe Beasley is one of the 6 best WRs in the league? Really a question of if he's one of the top 3, as that's what the voters are voting for. Edited January 8, 2021 by DCOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: he had some monster games. He also had 4 games with 3 or fewer catches. Yeah he really fell off in the second half of the season. These are his projected 16 game averages for the first half of the season vs second half of the season: First 8 games: 86 rec 1576 yards 16 TDs 98.5 ypg Last 8 games: 80 rec 1030 yards 4 TDs 64.4 ypg He was running away with the first team all-pro through the first half of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Seems like a faulty way of using your vote. Do you honestly believe Beasley is one of the 6 best WRs in the league? I don't. If I had Diggs and Adams on the outside however, I might prefer Beasley in the slot over the other guys though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I’ll just say that I would take Tre’ Davious White 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 trillion times before I took Jalen Ramsey once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Still no love for Poyer? Lavonte David at LB?? Yeah I am amazed at how little love Poyer gets. Most underrated safety in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Still no love for Poyer? Lavonte David at LB?? Yeah I don't get Poyer being left out of these things. Guy has been great! Pretty mind boggling but anyways...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) Anyone else get bummed when you see Wyatt Teller on there as well...oh well, cant win them all... 27 minutes ago, DCOrange said: He still finished 6th in yards and 8th in TDs but you can only vote for 3 guys and Adams and Diggs were locks for 2 of those spots and really, Tyreek Hill should have been a lock for the 3rd as well. At any rate, DK was awesome this year but still not one of the top 3 WRs in the league this year. Top 3 should have been Adams, Diggs, and Hopkins over Hill IMO. 7 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Yeah I don't get Poyer being left out of these things. Guy has been great! Pretty mind boggling but anyways...... Same, its a travesty that Poyer gets no love here on these things, he is the most underrated and under appreciated (outside of Buffalo) player in the league IMO. Edited January 8, 2021 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, johnnywo said: Howard over White...DaFuq outta here....They must have not counted last weeks torching against him. This is very political. Just gonna our have guys show the league something during the playoffs. Lavonte David didn’t make the Pro Bowl, how’d he make All Pro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, auburnbillsbacker said: I don't. If I had Diggs and Adams on the outside however, I might prefer Beasley in the slot over the other guys though. That’s like leaving Tre out of an All Pro team because you’d prefer to have an actual slot corner instead. These guys aren’t getting together to play any games. It’s supposed to be a team of the best players in the league and Beasley was an odd choice. Edited January 8, 2021 by Bangarang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bangarang said: That’s like leaving Tre out of an All Pro team because you’d prefer to have an actual slot corner instead. These guys aren’t getting together to play any games. It’s supposed to be a team of the best players in the league and Beasley was an odd choice. Even if they were playing games, you could just put Diggs in the slot with Adams and Hill on the outside. There's no reason Diggs couldn't play well in the slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I told you Beasley would get the recognition. He got 1 vote from Peter King. But any recognition for Bills players is good. Daryl Williams also got a vote. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 hours ago, TBBills said: What about BoJo? He def had a great punting year... Even though he didn't have to punt much. No one knew he was a punter most of the year since he didn't appear in stats. Ha 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: That’s like leaving Tre out of an All Pro team because you’d prefer to have an actual slot corner instead. These guys aren’t getting together to play any games. It’s supposed to be a team of the best players in the league and Beasley was an odd choice. Well. If the slot corner was as dominate as bease has been at the slot then sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: No one knew he was a punter most of the year since he didn't appear in stats. Ha Well. If the slot corner was as dominate as bease has been at the slot then sure. Can we take our homer glasses off for a second and just admit the fact that while Beas is a good player, he isn't one of the best WR in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I told you Beasley would get the recognition. Beasley got 1 vote. 1 single vote out of 50. It is just that the voting at receiver was such a consensus (49/50 voted for Adams and 48/50 voted for Diggs then Hill and Hopkins in the 20s....) that 1 vote for Ridley, DK and Cole was enough for 2nd team recognition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Wyatt Teller, ex-Bill, made second team all-pro. Good for him and the Browns, not for us. Beane traded Teller based on his performance up to then, and it's hard to fault Beane for that. Our O line was pretty well set, not great but good enough. Teller was promising but not dominant. After the trade, Teller did a Josh Allen, drastically improving his body and his game. He's now one of the best guards in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 It is also good for Brandon Beane. The one thing I said he needed to make a jump into that top 5 GM bracket was some of HIS acquisitions to be pro bowl and all pros. Before this season he had a total if 7 all pro votes for his acquisitions with the Bills. Not 7 selections.... 7 individual votes (50 voters voting for each position and he had 7 votes for guys he had brought in to get all pro recognition. This year he got 70. Admittedly Stefon Diggs accounted for 48 of the 70 but still.... 5 minutes ago, Utah John said: Wyatt Teller, ex-Bill, made second team all-pro. Good for him and the Browns, not for us. Beane traded Teller based on his performance up to then, and it's hard to fault Beane for that. Our O line was pretty well set, not great but good enough. Teller was promising but not dominant. After the trade, Teller did a Josh Allen, drastically improving his body and his game. He's now one of the best guards in the game. He is one of the best run blockers in the game. The Bills have prioritised pass blockers and Wyatt still has some way to go in that regard. Still great great deal for Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, DCOrange said: So based on the way voting works, this means someone voted for Cole Beasley as one of their top 3 WRs in the league this year. That's pretty wild. The only thing I can think is maybe they tried to treat it like a real team and therefore gave a vote to Beasley as exclusively a slot guy. That is exactly what Peter King said this morning, that he votes for a team and put Beasley as a slot receiver over hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Beasley got 1 vote. 1 single vote out of 50. It is just that the voting at receiver was such a consensus (49/50 voted for Adams and 48/50 voted for Diggs then Hill and Hopkins in the 20s....) that 1 vote for Ridley, DK and Cole was enough for 2nd team recognition. You shut your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Still no love for Poyer? Lavonte David at LB?? Are you suggesting he shouldn’t have made a team? I think he may have been snubbed from first team. He’s incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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