Hebert19 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Who gets in? Who owns tiebreaker there. It's very possible. Titans and colts could lose this weekend. Ravens will win out imo. Phins could win out if we let them. Browns could split. So if all are 11-5. Who gets in and who do we play. We know Miami wins tiebreaker with ravens but if all are tied who does...will come down to other variables??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 What if every team finished 8-8? Is it even possible? Who would get in the playoffs... would there even be a playoffs?? What if a dog bred with a horse- would it be faster than a frightened monkey? C'mon TBD. Don't let me down 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 It might depend on WHO the losses are to for the Titans and Colts. 1 minute ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: What if every team finished 8-8? Is it even possible? Who would get in the playoffs... would there even be a playoffs?? What if a dog bred with a horse- would it be faster than a frightened monkey? C'mon TBD. Don't let me down I am sure it must be possible...it would follow the normal tiebeaker rules...those likely all wouldn't be equivalent. And even if they were the final tiebreaker is a coin flip...so I guess lady luck would have a big hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 how would the colts lose to the steelers??? Seriously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thronethinker Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Have you tried using the playoff machine? It will give you the answer you want, that’s what it was created for. http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Below is wild card procedure for first wild card team when 3 or more clubs are tied. Since procedure is repeated to determine the second wild team once first is determined, it probably is repeated again to determine wild card team #3 once 1&2 have been determined. From: https://www.nfl.com/standings/tie-breaking-procedures "Three or More Clubs (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.) Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.) Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four. Strength of victory. Strength of schedule. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed. Best net points in conference games. Best net points in all games. Best net touchdowns in all games. Coin toss When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) I don't care who we are beating, they should all be scared to play the Bills. Edited December 22, 2020 by TBBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 You have to sort division first... in a tie TEN is ahead of IND by division record right now. IF TEN does WL and TEN dies LW and tied at 11-5 and same division record, same common game, same conference record so it goes to strength of victory to sort. They both go 4-0 against NFC so can just look at AFC...the. y split with each other. Beat JAX andHOU once. TEN JAX BAL BUF DEN IND HOU CIN NYJ LV TEN looks to win division in a tie. BAL swept CLE so they are in 2nd MIA-BAL-IND. Miami is in at 5 by better conference, thrn BAL in by beating ind then CLE in by beating IND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) My biggest concern is the Titans, admittedly the pre game was a mess, but they beat the crap out of us, but no Milano, and impaired Edmunds, but Henry in Buffalo in cold weather reminds me of Cookie Gilchrist. Big bad RB with mad skills. BTW I lived through the Music City Miracle in 1999, in a skybox no less. Edited December 22, 2020 by BearNorth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 35 minutes ago, gordong said: how would the colts lose to the steelers??? Seriously. How would the Rams lose to the jets? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hebert19 said: Who gets in? Who owns tiebreaker there. It's very possible. Titans and colts could lose this weekend. Ravens will win out imo. Phins could win out if we let them. Browns could split. So if all are 11-5. Who gets in and who do we play. We know Miami wins tiebreaker with ravens but if all are tied who does...will come down to other variables??? http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine With just running that scenario and NOTHING else. KC 1 seed Pitt 2 Seed Bills 3 Seed Ten 4 Seed Indy 5th Miami 6th Ravens 7th Edited December 22, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, BearNorth said: My biggest concern is the Titans, admittedly the pre game was a mess, but they beat the crap out of us, but no Milano, and impaired Edmunds, but Henry in Buffalo in cold weather reminds me of Cookie Gilchrist. Big bad RB with mad skills. I'm with you on this ... my exact thoughts. I think Henry would give Bills a fit. I do think we have gotten better and are building steam which is a good sign heading into playoffs. I feel the offense is better than that first game ... but man, they did beat us up that Sunday! Tannehill is good (he ripped us that day, nearly perfect) and Vrabel is a great head coach IMO. Would be a battle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, BearNorth said: BTW I lived through the Music City Miracle in 1999, in a skybox no less. So YOU were the reason....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Striker Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, gordong said: Seriously. Sure, you can't be Seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, gordong said: how would the colts lose to the steelers??? Seriously. Same way Rams loss to the Jets? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, BearNorth said: My biggest concern is the Titans, admittedly the pre game was a mess, but they beat the crap out of us, but no Milano, and impaired Edmunds, but Henry in Buffalo in cold weather reminds me of Cookie Gilchrist. Big bad RB with mad skills. BTW I lived through the Music City Miracle in 1999, in a skybox no less. I disagree..... dont forget 1. There was uncertainty on evrn playing so Buffalo had to double plan around either TEN or dtill pkay KC on thursday 2. buffalo had injuries 3. the game came down to 3 buffalo turnovers that gave TEN drive starts inside buffalo 25 which led to TDs. You remove those, that takes 21 pts away. On one drive buffalo was in FG range so the game coukd have bern 21-20 TEN in 4th. 4. Ten defense has bern exposed. I have no problem getting into a high scoring gamewith them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, BearNorth said: My biggest concern is the Titans, admittedly the pre game was a mess, but they beat the crap out of us, but no Milano, and impaired Edmunds, but Henry in Buffalo in cold weather reminds me of Cookie Gilchrist. Big bad RB with mad skills. BTW I lived through the Music City Miracle in 1999, in a skybox no less. Josh Allen also played the Titans right after the Raiders game and was using a shoulder harness which was impacting him. Music City Miracle -----> Illegal Forward Pass 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: What if every team finished 8-8? Is it even possible? Who would get in the playoffs... would there even be a playoffs?? What if a dog bred with a horse- would it be faster than a frightened monkey? C'mon TBD. Don't let me down I love stuff like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 It doesn't matter since we are going 17 - 3 !!!!! Let's Go Buffalo!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, ganesh said: Josh Allen also played the Titans right after the Raiders game and was using a shoulder harness which was impacting him. Music City Miracle -----> Illegal Forward Pass People forget that. It wasn’t mentioned outside of this forum.That 3 game stretch was tough at best. This isn’t the same team anymore. This team is much better right now. The defense is coming into form, it’s perfect timing. There will be no allowing KC or any team to run it down our throats this time. If KC makes it that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: What if every team finished 8-8? Is it even possible? Who would get in the playoffs... would there even be a playoffs?? What if a dog bred with a horse- would it be faster than a frightened monkey? C'mon TBD. Don't let me down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 7 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: What if every team finished 8-8? Is it even possible? Who would get in the playoffs... would there even be a playoffs?? What if a dog bred with a horse- would it be faster than a frightened monkey? C'mon TBD. Don't let me down Since both Dogs and horses are faster than monkeys, I’ve gotta believe no matter how frightened the monkey it’s not beating the horg or Dorse... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 hours ago, MAJBobby said: http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine With just running that scenario and NOTHING else. KC 1 seed Pitt 2 Seed Bills 3 Seed Ten 4 Seed Indy 5th Miami 6th Ravens 7th That would be priceless. Browns don't even make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 10 hours ago, dlonce said: People forget that. It wasn’t mentioned outside of this forum.That 3 game stretch was tough at best. This isn’t the same team anymore. This team is much better right now. The defense is coming into form, it’s perfect timing. There will be no allowing KC or any team to run it down our throats this time. If KC makes it that far. And don't forget the Special Teams. They are playing extremely well * Great kick returns * Great punt coverage * FG kicking has been pretty consistent 8 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: That would be priceless. Browns don't even make it. I want the Browns to be in the playoffs....they have played well this year and deserve to be there. Browns, Miami and Baltimore deserve to be the Wild Card for AFC. Chiefs, Bills, Steelers and Titans should be the divisional winners. Raiders and Patriots don't deserve to back into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I don't know but I think they Ravens will win out. They are playing well after the couple of losses when Jackson was out. They just seem like the team that's coming with a vengeance. I just think they will likely be the toughest outside of the Chiefs, and the Titans are tough also. But so are the Bills. Any AFC team the Bills play will be a tough game due to the AFC being so strong this season. Either way the AFC playoffs will be a lot more exciting and better than the NFC playoffs imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 52 minutes ago, ganesh said: I want the Browns to be in the playoffs....they have played well this year and deserve to be there. Browns, Miami and Baltimore deserve to be the Wild Card for AFC. Chiefs, Bills, Steelers and Titans should be the divisional winners. Raiders and Patriots don't deserve to back into the playoffs. There is no backing into the playoffs. You either make it and deserve it or you don't. If a team falls apart at the end of the season to allow the Raiders to get in then the Raiders should get in over that team. That said, I think it is mathematically impossible for the Raiders to get in over the Browns. Raiders would need to get in over Miami and Baltimore. Raiders win out and those two teams both lose out then the Raiders deserve to be in. I see it as 50/50 right now that the Steelers win the North. Browns have a serious shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 17 hours ago, thronethinker said: Have you tried using the playoff machine? It will give you the answer you want, that’s what it was created for. http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine There is a way the Browns don't get in if they lose week 17 to Pitt. A 3 way tie at 12-4 with us the Titans and Steelers and we're the 2 seed. The odds based on my week 16 and 17 picks have us mostly playing the Browns or Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 15 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: That would be priceless. Browns don't even make it. It is a similar situation that happened to us in 2017. Even though the Browns own head2head tiebreakers over the Colts and Titans in a 3-way tie head to head isnt used. In that scenario Cleveland is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVGrown Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 22 hours ago, BearNorth said: My biggest concern is the Titans, admittedly the pre game was a mess, but they beat the crap out of us, but no Milano, and impaired Edmunds, but Henry in Buffalo in cold weather reminds me of Cookie Gilchrist. Big bad RB with mad skills. BTW I lived through the Music City Miracle in 1999, in a skybox no less. Wasn't White also out for the Titans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Here’s a more important question. Since the Bills don’t play until Monday night against a now eliminated Patriots team, is there a chance that any team’s fate will be decided prior to our kickoff? Will it impact Monday night? For example, could the Dolphins be eliminated by the time we kick off? Would that change anything in the way the Bills approach NE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I want to be in the room when it happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Here’s a more important question. Since the Bills don’t play until Monday night against a now eliminated Patriots team, is there a chance that any team’s fate will be decided prior to our kickoff? Will it impact Monday night? For example, could the Dolphins be eliminated by the time we kick off? Would that change anything in the way the Bills approach NE? If Pittsburghand Tennessee lose and KC wins buffalo just needs to win 1 game to clinch 2 seed Miami can’t be eliminated if they lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 38 minutes ago, djp14150 said: If Pittsburghand Tennessee lose and KC wins buffalo just needs to win 1 game to clinch 2 seed Miami can’t be eliminated if they lose. Thanks I like it. I’d rather see the Bills play games that still mean something to someone. This means the Dolphins will still be playing in Week 17. Do any games get flexed? Bills v Dolphins would seem to be a favorite for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 hours ago, LVGrown said: Wasn't White also out for the Titans? You are correct, so no milano, no white, no moss, three pretty big pieces. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 52 minutes ago, BearNorth said: You are correct, so no milano, no white, no moss, three pretty big pieces. And injured Allen and Edmunds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I grow tired discussing inferior teams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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