Big Turk Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Apparently even dudes playing with him at first didn't think he was very good... https://www.yahoo.com/sports/tyreek-hills-first-impression-of-patrick-mahomes-i-thought-he-was-trash-041028592.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 11 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Now that's a man a little too passionate about doing his job thoroughly 😆 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 TH: Any relation to Jalen Ramsey? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Good call... I recall a poster here getting trashed because he spoke to Ed Oliver at a bar and Oliver said Allen was trash. Poor guy got absolutely destroyed here... im sure the story was 100% true. what the ***** are you talking about scott? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Good call... I recall a poster here getting trashed because he spoke to Ed Oliver at a bar and Oliver said Allen was trash. Poor guy got absolutely destroyed here... im sure the story was 100% true. Is trash the only pejorative adjective teammates can come up with for their QBs? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Nobody tell Zerovoltz. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Good call... I recall a poster here getting trashed because he spoke to Ed Oliver at a bar and Oliver said Allen was trash. Poor guy got absolutely destroyed here... im sure the story was 100% true. The difference of course is in one case Tyreek Hill is quoted as saying it by a reporter who would be at risk of losing his job if he makes it up and in the other some guy on an anonymous board claims to have spoken to Ed. Hmmm. It is a source credibility thing. On the bright side, even if Ed did think that I am certain he doesn't feel that way anymore given the on the sidelines Jerry Hughes emphatic declaration that Josh should be in the MVP conversation (he shouldn't be, but that shows the confidence the team has in him). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: The difference of course is in one case Tyreek Hill is quoted as saying it by a reporter who would be at risk of losing his job if he makes it up and in the other some guy on an anonymous board claims to have spoken to Ed. Hmmm. It is a source credibility thing. On the bright side, even if Ed did think that I am certain he doesn't feel that way anymore given the on the sidelines Jerry Hughes emphatic declaration that Josh should be in the MVP conversation (he shouldn't be, but that shows the confidence the team has in him). Some games he definitely would be in the discussion, others not so much. Still working on consistency but his floor has moved up tremendously since his rookie year. Josh playing his worst game is still good enough to probably beat half the teams in the league of not more. Also...as an aside...has Josh ever thrown a pick 6? I don't recall seeing one...some QBs have a tendency for those type of INTs like Winston(and Matt Schaub going back a while) and others never seem to have them happen... Edited December 2, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Good call... I recall a poster here getting trashed because he spoke to Ed Oliver at a bar and Oliver said Allen was trash. Poor guy got absolutely destroyed here... im sure the story was 100% true. Funny, never saw that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) ...and if anyone knows trash, it’s Tyreek Hill. He sees it every time he looks in the mirror. 😡 Edited December 2, 2020 by Back the Blue 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) Tyreek Hill obviously also must have thought his pregnant fiancee and unborn child were trash when he beat the ***** out of her. Incredible talent but if anyone is human trash here its him. Edited December 2, 2020 by Bills Survivor 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 51 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: One more Hail Mary completion and that will be me. 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Bills Survivor said: Tyreek Hill obviously also must have thought his pregnant fiancee and unborn child were trash when he beat the ***** out of her. Incredible talent but if anyone is human trash here its him. in addition, someone should tell Tyrek Hill how he would look If someone other than PM were throwing the ball to him. I suspect he would be strictly a gadget guy or slot receiver on most teams. PM’s amazing ability and accuracy has allowed Hill to be a complete receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Good call... I recall a poster here getting trashed because he spoke to Ed Oliver at a bar and Oliver said Allen was trash. Poor guy got absolutely destroyed here... im sure the story was 100% true. Stop making up stories again. It's old 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said: That dude lost his mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InEnemyTerritory Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, matter2003 said: Also...as an aside...has Josh ever thrown a pick 6? I don't recall seeing one...some QBs have a tendency for those type of INTs like Winston(and Matt Schaub going back a while) and others never seem to have them happen... Week 17 of 2018 against the Dolphins to close out the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 It’s OK, Tyree. So did I. Can’t envision him here in Blo still. Tredavios White has been a great consolation prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Good call... I recall a poster here getting trashed because he spoke to Ed Oliver at a bar and Oliver said Allen was trash. Poor guy got absolutely destroyed here... im sure the story was 100% true. Yes bar stories told on the Internet are usually true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, InEnemyTerritory said: Week 17 of 2018 against the Dolphins to close out the first half. That's right...isn't that the game he came back in the 2nd half and went off on them for like 4 TDs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Oh come on teef...You were one of the first guys to question the thread.😅 You were leading the "shut this thread down" charge weren't you? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Hill is a stupid person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Tuel Time said: Yes bar stories told on the Internet are usually true. I only trust football information that is sourced in the feminine hygiene aisle at Walgreens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InEnemyTerritory Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 hours ago, matter2003 said: That's right...isn't that the game he came back in the 2nd half and went off on them for like 4 TDs? Yep. That was the game that sold me on him after his woeful 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 He was right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I don’t think I their opinion matters either way... which is why the overreaction to that thread was ridiculous. Gee.... people overreacting on TBD... Does that happen often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: That dude lost his mind Hes just passionate about his work. Gotta respect that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenReceipts Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) The Bills can sign their own version of Tyreek Hill this offseason...Will Fuller is an UFA. I would try and sign Will Fuller as a replacement for J Brown. Pair him with Diggs on the outside next year and the Offense could average 40 points per game. Fuller's PED suspension lowers his price tag, opening the door for the Bills to steal him. He is a PERFECT fit in the Bills Spread Offense. Stefon Diggs is not enough weaponry to beat the Chiefs. This team needs Will Fuller to become unstoppable. This football team is driven by Josh Allen and the WRs, so I would definitely make Will Fuller the #1 priority Free Agent. Message to Bills GM Brandon Beane, Key Steps to building 2021 Bills: 1) Sign Will Fuller in FA. 2) Draft the best available TE in Round 1. 3) Draft the best available RB in Round 2, an explosive homerun type RB. Surround Josh with the best weapons you can possibly surround him with, and just let him smash teams on a weekly basis. "But what about the Defense???" Focus on situational Defense. Be good enough. Nobody in the NFL really plays defense anymore, besides the Steelers (they are the 1 outlier) Edited December 2, 2020 by JoshAllenReceipts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 16 hours ago, matter2003 said: Some games he definitely would be in the discussion, others not so much. Still working on consistency but his floor has moved up tremendously since his rookie year. Josh playing his worst game is still good enough to probably beat half the teams in the league of not more. Also...as an aside...has Josh ever thrown a pick 6? I don't recall seeing one...some QBs have a tendency for those type of INTs like Winston(and Matt Schaub going back a while) and others never seem to have them happen... Usually pick-six occurs when weak armed QBs tried to throw towards the sideline and cannot beat the CB jumping his route.... Neither is Allen's arm weak nor does he throw those flat to the side line throws much. Most of his INTs have come from chunk plays where he did not see the Safety move up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said: After receiving TBD warning point Edited December 3, 2020 by Irv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, matter2003 said: Some games he definitely would be in the discussion, others not so much. Still working on consistency but his floor has moved up tremendously since his rookie year. Josh playing his worst game is still good enough to probably beat half the teams in the league of not more. Also...as an aside...has Josh ever thrown a pick 6? I don't recall seeing one...some QBs have a tendency for those type of INTs like Winston(and Matt Schaub going back a while) and others never seem to have them happen... Yes - josh threw a pick 6 in a win v the dolphins his rookie year but managed to show greatness on the same play. He got so mad he ran across field to track the defender down before he crossed the goal line and made a massive tomahawk chop to try to get the ball out. Edited December 3, 2020 by Charles Romes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 14 hours ago, JoshAllenReceipts said: The Bills can sign their own version of Tyreek Hill this offseason...Will Fuller is an UFA. I would try and sign Will Fuller as a replacement for J Brown. Pair him with Diggs on the outside next year and the Offense could average 40 points per game. Fuller's PED suspension lowers his price tag, opening the door for the Bills to steal him. He is a PERFECT fit in the Bills Spread Offense. Stefon Diggs is not enough weaponry to beat the Chiefs. This team needs Will Fuller to become unstoppable. This football team is driven by Josh Allen and the WRs, so I would definitely make Will Fuller the #1 priority Free Agent. Message to Bills GM Brandon Beane, Key Steps to building 2021 Bills: 1) Sign Will Fuller in FA. 2) Draft the best available TE in Round 1. 3) Draft the best available RB in Round 2, an explosive homerun type RB. Surround Josh with the best weapons you can possibly surround him with, and just let him smash teams on a weekly basis. "But what about the Defense???" Focus on situational Defense. Be good enough. Nobody in the NFL really plays defense anymore, besides the Steelers (they are the 1 outlier) Is there a reason we would be cutting John Brown? I don't see Will Fuller as a huge upgrade over what we already have. Every offense also reaches a point of oversaturation, where you just don't have enough balls to go around. We already have Diggs, Brown, Beasley and Davis. And you want to use our 1st Round Pick on yet another receiving weapon? AND then use a Day 2 Pick (for the third year in a row) on upgrading a run-game? I just don't see how we can possibly utilize all those pieces effectively. At this point, it really comes down to playcalling, blocking, the QB making the correct reads/throws and overall execution. In other words, we need to get our O-Line set. We need Brian Daboll to make good calls throughout the game. And we need continued improvement from Josh Allen. I'm not saying we never try to add offensive players or upgrade. But our resources in free agency and the draft need to go towards weak spots. We shouldn't be spending a #1 pick on a guy who may get 2-3 balls thrown his way each week. I also disagree completely with the idea that "nobody in the NFL really plays defense anymore." Even if scoring is higher than ever, offenses around the league are NOT scoring TDs on every single drive. Winning games comes down to having more points than your opponent. Look at the stats below and tell me where we have the most room for improvement... - Our defense is currently allowing 25.6 points per game (18th in the league). We are allowing 8.5 more points than the league's top unit. - Our offense is scoring 27.2 points per game (10th in the league). That is 4.5 points less than the league's top unit. Breaking things down further, our defense is: - 26th in the NFL in rushing yards allowed per attempt (4.7) - 29th in the NFL in rushing touchdowns allowed (16) - 23rd in the NFL in completion percentage allowed (66.8) - 20th in the NFL in passing yards allowed per attempt (7.4) - 19th in the NFL in interceptions (8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenReceipts Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, mjt328 said: Is there a reason we would be cutting John Brown? I don't see Will Fuller as a huge upgrade over what we already have. Every offense also reaches a point of oversaturation, where you just don't have enough balls to go around. We already have Diggs, Brown, Beasley and Davis. And you want to use our 1st Round Pick on yet another receiving weapon? AND then use a Day 2 Pick (for the third year in a row) on upgrading a run-game? I just don't see how we can possibly utilize all those pieces effectively. At this point, it really comes down to playcalling, blocking, the QB making the correct reads/throws and overall execution. In other words, we need to get our O-Line set. We need Brian Daboll to make good calls throughout the game. And we need continued improvement from Josh Allen. I'm not saying we never try to add offensive players or upgrade. But our resources in free agency and the draft need to go towards weak spots. We shouldn't be spending a #1 pick on a guy who may get 2-3 balls thrown his way each week. I also disagree completely with the idea that "nobody in the NFL really plays defense anymore." Even if scoring is higher than ever, offenses around the league are NOT scoring TDs on every single drive. Winning games comes down to having more points than your opponent. Look at the stats below and tell me where we have the most room for improvement... - Our defense is currently allowing 25.6 points per game (18th in the league). We are allowing 8.5 more points than the league's top unit. - Our offense is scoring 27.2 points per game (10th in the league). That is 4.5 points less than the league's top unit. Breaking things down further, our defense is: - 26th in the NFL in rushing yards allowed per attempt (4.7) - 29th in the NFL in rushing touchdowns allowed (16) - 23rd in the NFL in completion percentage allowed (66.8) - 20th in the NFL in passing yards allowed per attempt (7.4) - 19th in the NFL in interceptions (8) Holy smokes. I stopped reading after that. That comment shows you don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about. Will Fuller is one of the very best WRs in the world. Will Fuller is on par with Stefon Diggs as a WR, not much difference. You can make the case that a healthy Fuller is even better than Diggs. He's certainly faster and more explosive than Diggs. He is a bonafide #1 WR, a true difference maker. The Texans Offense splits with and without Fuller are drastic. Fuller would make Josh better, makes all the other WRs better, makes the RBs better. Imagine not understanding The Butterfly Effect on the entire Offense that a player like Will Fuller brings. Will Fuller is an impact weapon who makes everybody on his Offense better with his mere presence on the field. Learn something, my guy. Edited December 3, 2020 by JoshAllenReceipts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 18 hours ago, JoshAllenReceipts said: The Bills can sign their own version of Tyreek Hill this offseason...Will Fuller is an UFA. I would try and sign Will Fuller as a replacement for J Brown. Pair him with Diggs on the outside next year and the Offense could average 40 points per game. Fuller's PED suspension lowers his price tag, opening the door for the Bills to steal him. He is a PERFECT fit in the Bills Spread Offense. Stefon Diggs is not enough weaponry to beat the Chiefs. This team needs Will Fuller to become unstoppable. This football team is driven by Josh Allen and the WRs, so I would definitely make Will Fuller the #1 priority Free Agent. Message to Bills GM Brandon Beane, Key Steps to building 2021 Bills: 1) Sign Will Fuller in FA. 2) Draft the best available TE in Round 1. 3) Draft the best available RB in Round 2, an explosive homerun type RB. Surround Josh with the best weapons you can possibly surround him with, and just let him smash teams on a weekly basis. "But what about the Defense???" Focus on situational Defense. Be good enough. Nobody in the NFL really plays defense anymore, besides the Steelers (they are the 1 outlier) No thanks...not signing a guy who is one failed PED test away from a year long suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenReceipts Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, matter2003 said: No thanks...not signing a guy who is one failed PED test away from a year long suspension. Then you will never have enough weapons to take down Mahomes, Tyreek, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, CEH. Do Bills fans want to win a Super Bowl or not? Sounds like u want the Bills to fall short every year at the hands of the Chiefs. In order to beat the Chiefs, you need WEAPONRY. A stacked set of weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, JoshAllenReceipts said: Then you will never have enough weapons to take down Mahomes, Tyreek, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, CEH. Do Bills fans want to win a Super Bowl or not? Sounds like u want the Bills to fall short every year at the hands of the Chiefs. In order to beat the Chiefs, you need WEAPONRY. A stacked set of weapons. Why? Because only players who fail PED tests or others in danger of long suspensions are capable of that? Give me a break with this nonsense. The Bills couldn't just draft a Justin Jefferson type player? Or a DK Metcalf type player? Davis is already pretty good as a rookie in a limited role, he should improve over the next year or two. We definitely need a TE that is more reliable than Knox. RB's I think we are fine there. And last time I checked, the offense is not competing against KC's offense, they are competing against their Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenReceipts Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Why? Because only players who fail PED tests or others in danger of long suspensions are capable of that? Give me a break with this nonsense. The Bills couldn't just draft a Justin Jefferson type player? Or a DK Metcalf type player? Davis is already pretty good as a rookie in a limited role, he should improve over the next year or two. We definitely need a TE that is more reliable than Knox. RB's I think we are fine there. And last time I checked, the offense is not competing against KC's offense, they are competing against their Defense. No, they are competing against KC's Offense. KC's Offense will light up the scoreboard and there's nothing you can do about it. The only way to beat KC is to outscore them. And to do that, you need a completely stacked set of weapons. Relying on Gabe Davis and Devin Singletary to beat the Chiefs, will not get it done. Not enough. Not nearly enough. The Chiefs are a budding dynasty and it takes a special team knock them off. Will Fuller is a special, game-changing WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey13 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 27 minutes ago, JoshAllenReceipts said: Holy smokes. I stopped reading after that. That comment shows you don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about. Will Fuller is one of the very best WRs in the world. Will Fuller is on par with Stefon Diggs as a WR, not much difference. You can make the case that a healthy Fuller is even better than Diggs. He's certainly faster and more explosive than Diggs. He is a bonafide #1 WR, a true difference maker. The Texans Offense splits with and without Fuller are drastic. Fuller would make Josh better, makes all the other WRs better, makes the RBs better. Imagine not understanding The Butterfly Effect on the entire Offense that a player like Will Fuller brings. Will Fuller is an impact weapon who makes everybody on his Offense better with his mere presence on the field. Learn something, my guy. The same guy who, up until this season had Nuk on the other side taking all the attention? Fullers job is the exact same job John Brown brings to the Bills and their career splits aren't that far off from each other. Fuller isn't even one of the Top 15 receivers I'd take in the NFL so your opinion of him being one of the very best in the world is just a hyperbole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenReceipts Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Whitey13 said: The same guy who, up until this season had Nuk on the other side taking all the attention? Fullers job is the exact same job John Brown brings to the Bills and their career splits aren't that far off from each other. Fuller isn't even one of the Top 15 receivers I'd take in the NFL so your opinion of him being one of the very best in the world is just a hyperbole. Fuller is absolutely a Top 15 WR in the NFL. What the hell? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze_21 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 On 12/2/2020 at 9:19 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: in addition, someone should tell Tyrek Hill how he would look If someone other than PM were throwing the ball to him. I suspect he would be strictly a gadget guy or slot receiver on most teams. PM’s amazing ability and accuracy has allowed Hill to be a complete receiver. He put up 1200 yards with alex smith. Hills statement is irrelevant I doubt hill is scouting mahomes college tape he was just going off word of mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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