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14 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

OK, after striking out on my public library's apps, I found I can get SI to read on the ipad Kindle app for 1 month free, $20/yr afterwards.

Def. worth a read. 

 

So far a few little flaws: "with several games each season impacted by winds that can gust around 15 mph"  🤣

Sonny, in WNY we call that 15 mph stuff "the breeze"

 

Yeah, I saw that, too.  15 mph!   Cue Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator.  

15 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


his pocket presence and feel for pressure is really amazing. He’s so calm in the pocket now. 

Right.  I was always amazed last year when people refused to believe that that calmness was coming.   

 

And I don't think he's done.   He's going to be a really good field leader in a couple of years.   And because he's a natural leader, his team follows him.  So he'll be really good on two-minute drills, because his team will want to follow him and they'll know that Josh actually knows what's going on.   

 

He's going to be special. 

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17 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

"Buffalo's turning to Allen, after conservative Tyrod Taylor, was like waving goodbye to the kiddie roller coaster and hopping on the screamer that barely passes its daily inspections. If the last generation of great passers was typified by world-class surgeons-- Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees-- diagnosing defenses and dissecting them with painstaking precision, Allen arrives in the operating room with a hunting knife and a bottle of Wild Turkey." ..... LOLOL. oh man thats good.

Perfect description, Allen is like if MacGuyver was as a quarterback.

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3 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

Physical magazines still exist? Why?

 

I gave up my subscription several years ago...the magazine was getting thinner by the week, the stories were dated and the cover photos, once the crown jewel of SI, were starting to look like the National Enquirer.  

 

All print media, newspapers, magazines, journals, etc. are going the way of the square wheel.  I hate to see it, but it's just the way technology has evolved, or devolved, depending how you look at it.  

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22 minutes ago, Ned Flanders said:

 

I gave up my subscription several years ago...the magazine was getting thinner by the week, the stories were dated and the cover photos, once the crown jewel of SI, were starting to look like the National Enquirer.  

 

All print media, newspapers, magazines, journals, etc. are going the way of the square wheel.  I hate to see it, but it's just the way technology has evolved, or devolved, depending how you look at it.  

I dropped it too, several years ago.  Articles were getting shorter, and they tried to copy the ESPN sound-bite style.   

 

Now it's a monthly, so it costs less, and they still have some great writing.   I'm going to resubscribe.  

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23 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

Physical magazines still exist? Why?

 

i still read magazines at dentist office.

 

And everyone STILL does not prefer cell phones, digital music and reading.

Can still tell difference between a good record and a digital of same song.

I used to work in cellular telephone business and developed one of first tools to measure quality.  Cell companies knew they would be reducing quality when they went to digital to reduce bandwidth and the key was which technology got most bang for least loss.

 

 

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On 11/3/2020 at 6:39 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


his pocket presence and feel for pressure is really amazing. He’s so calm in the pocket now. 

 

I got to put this up here too (put it up in the Mongo thread as well).  Josh just has total trust in Mongo here. 

 

Also, KROFT SIGHTING!  Really good high degree of difficulty catch by Kroft - proud of you Tyler!

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On 11/3/2020 at 3:24 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He showed out this past Sunday against the Patriots.

 

He just showed out in a different way.  The Patriots said, "we believe you will come out slinging it, and we will bait you into mistakes"

Here's what they were running for defensive coverage:

 

 

In addition, the Patriots were doing a lot of what Jim Kubiak of TBN called "the Amoeba defense", which I've never heard called that, but whatever you call it: they only have one guy with his hand on the ground.  Everyone else is standing up and daring the QB to figure out if they're rushing or dropping in coverage.

 

It's a front that makes it difficult for the OL to protect and difficult for the QB to throw to short and over the middle because he doesn't know who will be dropping in coverage and who will be pressuring.  As I understand it, in one variant the Pats run, the defenders themselves don't know; anyone who is blocked immediately drops into coverage.

 

It's a *****-you defense.  It says "you can't run worth *****, so we're going to FSU (in the non university sense) on your passing game and to Hell with gap discipline.

 

Josh Allen and the Bills said "***** you back, Hot News: we're gonna run anyway"

 

I always wanted us to quick snap or direct snap to our RB and just plow over those standing bodies in that NE amoeba defense... I think we did try to quick-snap it once and just ended up shooting ourselves in our foot with a false start. Maybe Daboll was thinking the same thing.

 

 

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On 11/3/2020 at 3:44 PM, Johnnycage46 said:

This looks to be the issue in case anyone is out in the wild and spots it:

 

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I'm not sure why SI thought putting a husky golfer on the cover would sell magazines. I'm pretty sure the NFL has quite a few more followers than the PGA. Why not put Josh on there?

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On 11/3/2020 at 3:24 PM, Shaw66 said:

I didn't see anything posted here about the article about Josh Allen in Sports Illustrated.   It doesn't seem to be available at their website; I think you have to have the print version to see it.  I think it was in last week's SI, or possibly the week before. 

 

It's a full-fledged SI feature about him, starting with a great description of the face-mask sack he took against the Rams before winning the game.   It's a really positive article, describing how awesome he is physically and how much progress he's made working with Palmer each off-season.  Also a funny comment from Beane about preparing to face the press after they drafted Allen.  

 

If you can get your hands on it, it's worth the read.   Serious, positive national attention. 

Sports Illustrated.   Wow.  I have not read one in decades.  Veering off the JA subject a bit. 
 

This made me think to the days back in 6th grade when I would hurry home from school and find my new issue in the mail.  I saved up my “Buffalo Evening News” newspaper money to get a subscription.  
 

Magazines and newspapers.  Times have really changed.  I still get the Buffalo News in a online subscription - even though I moved away 40 years ago. 


Thanks for the memories. 

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On 11/3/2020 at 7:39 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


his pocket presence and feel for pressure is really amazing. He’s so calm in the pocket now. 

 

It seems like they have metrics for everything but Josh is rarely a sack victim due to one unblocked pass rusher.  It almost takes two or more who arrive simultaneously to get him down (ex. bad 4th quarter sack vs. Texans.)  Multiple guys who arrive sequentially are often defeated in detail as well (ex. plays vs. the Rams and Broncos.)  QBs who turtle collapse in the face of one unblocked defender are playing the position much differently.  So many plays Josh has made that I have rarely/never seen from other QBs and they've become so routine that we tend to take them for granted.

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You're right about the single rusher.  Josh always seems to see that guy, and he's able to do something about it - get the throw off, stiff arm, side step, scramble.   That's evidence of how he has matured.   He understands what he's seeing at the line of scrimmage, and he knows where to look for the free rusher.  

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Link to online article

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/11/12/josh-allen-rise-to-stardom-unique-playing-style-daily-cover

 

If the last generation of great passers was typified by world-class surgeons—Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees—diagnosing defenses and dissecting them with painstaking precision, Allen arrives in the operating room with a bowhunting knife and a bottle of Wild Turkey from which he takes generous slugs. Even the NFL’s best improvisers—Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson and Russell Wilson—work through a flow chart on any given play. Allen’s options, though, can seem wider, perhaps infinite. Allen represents an outlier among outliers.

 

The thing is, Allen aspires to be a world-class surgeon and work through a flow chart.  He's not there yet but he's getting much closer.  But when all that breaks down - he still has his Bowie knife and that bottle of Wild Turkey in his back pocket.

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30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Link to online article

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/11/12/josh-allen-rise-to-stardom-unique-playing-style-daily-cover

 

If the last generation of great passers was typified by world-class surgeons—Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees—diagnosing defenses and dissecting them with painstaking precision, Allen arrives in the operating room with a bowhunting knife and a bottle of Wild Turkey from which he takes generous slugs. Even the NFL’s best improvisers—Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson and Russell Wilson—work through a flow chart on any given play. Allen’s options, though, can seem wider, perhaps infinite. Allen represents an outlier among outliers.

 

The thing is, Allen aspires to be a world-class surgeon and work through a flow chart.  He's not there yet but he's getting much closer.  But when all that breaks down - he still has his Bowie knife and that bottle of Wild Turkey in his back pocket.

I really like the sentence before that one. 

 

Going to Allen after the last might-have-been-franchise quarterback in Buffalo, conservative veteran Tyrod Taylor, was like waving goodbye to the kiddie roller coaster and hopping on the screamer that barely passes its daily safety inspections.

 

I think that's how most of us feel on Sundays. 

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2 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Surprised that article didn’t include anything about the donations? It referenced the Seahawks game, so it was written this week, maybe before that blew up, but I would have expected them to go back and edit it. Maybe they didn’t get permission from Josh?

 

It was published in print last week, before the SeaSnakes game.  Nov 1 or 2 I think.  It's just the online version that came out this week.

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7 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

and did he have as good a follow up game as that Dolphins defender he "blessed" the week before?

 

An under-appreciated side-effect of the Josh Allen Experience: "motivating defenders the following Sunday since 2018"

 

On 11/6/2020 at 12:07 PM, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

Would you settle for a 2017 article?

 

https://vault.si.com/vault/2017/05/15/no-one-no-1

 

 

What's interesting about this is the guys Allen was apparently at that camp with - Tennessee's Jarrett Guarantano, Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush, TCU's Kenny Hill and Indiana's Richard Lagow.

 

Who?

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If one play embodies the chaotic, poetic, and befuddling nature of the Josh Allen Experience, perhaps it was that beautiful facemask penalty, on which the quarterback was less Joe Cool and more Chuck Norris. “It looked like a bar fight,” Bills general manager Brandon Beane says. “Like he was being jumped, and he’s got one hand tied behind his back. When [dude] gets close, he goes, I’m going to sling him. And he rag-dolled him!” Which is to say, Josh Allen did something unlike anything anyone in football has seen. Again.
 

from the posted link

12 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

New cover is out!

 

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