YoloinOhio Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Those who watched/studied becton in college (i watched zero Louisville football last year) - thoughts on this matchup? I think it will be a big factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Those who watched/studied becton in college (i watched zero Louisville football last year) - thoughts on this matchup? I think it will be a big factor. I read his scouting report and speed rushers can dip their lead shoulder and bend around him. I think Hughes will have a good day. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) The kid may turn out to be a stud, but Sunday give me the savy veteran over the first time starting rookie. Edited September 11, 2020 by twist_to_open 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Bigger they are, harder they fall. And quickness trumps size in pass protection. Becton is great for the RB running behind him - he can flatten Hughes or anyone else, but, based on Louisville tape, is vulnerable in pass protection. Expecting a few sacks from that side.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Bigger they are, harder they fall. And quickness trumps size in pass protection. Becton is great for the RB running behind him - he can flatten Hughes or anyone else, but, based on Louisville tape, is vulnerable in pass protection. Expecting a few sacks from that side.... I read that he is prone to bite on twists and stunts. I think we attack him all day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 I have to think then - and based on the strengths of bills D - the jets will try to run the ball. I don’t think Gase has ever been one to commit to the run though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I dont think its as cut and dry as a lot of people do. Becton is a good player and if he gets his hands on Hughes I am not sure Jerry has the size and strength to win that matchup. That makes Hughes one dimensional, and if he is limited to an outside speed rush then the Jets will be smart to run a lot of quick routes. I dont think Hughes has shown to be any kind of dominate player the last two years. He is a good player, but he often runs straight up the field without bending the corner well. I also imagine they will give Becton help. The real matchup to watch is Addison against Fant who is no real great at right tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I’ll be breaking tradition by not wearing my Jerry jersey opening day because dude is so massive I’m worried he’ll be shut down. 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I have to think then - and based on the strengths of bills D - the jets will try to run the ball. I don’t think Gase has ever been one to commit to the run though. Wasn’t it the Gase coached fins that slathered us with Ajayi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Becton is a hell of an athlete for his size. Jerry is a savvy vet though, who uses his hands well, and has a variety of pass rushing moves. Another thing that will help is Hughes is 100% healthy. I expect Jerry to win some and lose some. The one thing that does worry me is Hughes vs Becton in the running game. The guy absolutely mauled people at Louisville so our LB's and Safeties need to take proper angles and be sure tacklers on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I dont think its as cut and dry as a lot of people do. Becton is a good player and if he gets his hands on Hughes I am not sure Jerry has the size and strength to win that matchup. That makes Hughes one dimensional, and if he is limited to an outside speed rush then the Jets will be smart to run a lot of quick routes. I dont think Hughes has shown to be any kind of dominate player the last two years. He is a good player, but he often runs straight up the field without bending the corner well. I also imagine they will give Becton help. The real matchup to watch is Addison against Fant who is no real great at right tackle. Last year was a down year until it mattered most. He claims he was injured, we’ll see. 2 years ago was the best Jerry Hughes in a Bills uniform imo. He didn’t have the sacks, but he dominated his opposition on a weekly basis. His pass rush grade (or qb pressures, iirc) was number 1 in the league for DEs. If not 1st, dam close. I think he’s better than most people realize. Too bad all anyone cares about is sack stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2020/03/03/2020-nfl-draft-mekhi-becton-scouting-report/ Strengths Well, for starters, he’s huge. The heaviest player invited to the Combine, Becton is a hefty individual who also possesses stellar length for an offensive lineman. He’s not out of shape by any means, though; he carries the weight very well and doesn’t have much body fat on his frame. That size makes it anything but surprising to know that he’s an absolute mauler in the run game. He plays with a nasty edge, looking to annihilate the competition and drive them into the dirt. His grip strength is admirable, and the power with which he delivers his punches is downright brutal. Becton isn’t just a massive brute, as the athleticism he brings to the table is palpable. Much commotion has been made about his 5.10 40-yard dash at the Combine, and as crazy as that speed is for such a heavy player, that athleticism shows up on tape. He’s surprisingly light on his feet and has good body control when moving laterally in pass protection. His straight-line speed is also apparent when he’s asked to accelerate to the second level and block in space. Weaknesses For as much upside as he possesses already, Becton is still developing as a blocker. As one would expect for a taller offensive tackle, Becton’s pad level could be more consistent. His hips aren’t incredibly flexible, making it tougher for him to sink down and maintain leverage with his pads. He wins with pure strength and dominant force behind his strikes, but his pad level will need to get a bit better at the next level. Though he’s an athletic big man, Becton’s body control could use some improving. He finds himself getting knocked off balance on occasion, and he sometimes ends up lunging when he strikes, making him susceptible to getting beat. And, while he carries his current weight very well, he might be better off losing a few pounds just to be safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Hughes has FOUR games vs rookie LT's this year in the division. I really think we need to see him capitalize on that..... i'd rather not have to see a 40 page thread on how valuable his "hurries" are after this year.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Wait, was Greggggg Williams running his mouth again? I'm shocked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, eball said: Wait, was Greggggg Williams running his mouth again? I'm shocked. Why is Greggg even talking about a LT?!?! Doesn't he have some bounty he has to set on Allen and Beasley? Some coaching to do to Anderson about how to tear ligaments? Sounds like he is getting greedy and plotting what he is going to say as Interim HC... News flash Greggg, you will be out once they hire some other bum off the street to be HC because you are garbage! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 "You better git ready for a fistfight in a phone booth, YEEEEEE HAAAAAWWWW!" What a jackass. What does that even mean? Greggggg has become a caricature of himself, quickly approaching Rex Ryan status. I really hope the Bills hang 40 on them. 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 He sounds very good. Well hopefully since the OL hadn’t played in s game together yet, and Alex lewis next to him is pretty average, Hughes has the advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, NewEra said: Last year was a down year until it mattered most. He claims he was injured, we’ll see. 2 years ago was the best Jerry Hughes in a Bills uniform imo. He didn’t have the sacks, but he dominated his opposition on a weekly basis. His pass rush grade (or qb pressures, iirc) was number 1 in the league for DEs. If not 1st, dam close. I think he’s better than most people realize. Too bad all anyone cares about is sack stats. I think he is a good player. He had a strip sack against Tannehill a few years back that was one of the most athletic plays I've ever seen a defender make, I just dont think he is dominate. This has more to do with Becton, who I think is going to be a good player, and what the Jets do to help him. If I had to put money on which defensive end has a better game against their tackle on Sunday, my money would be on Addison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Agreed. Addison rotating with Jerry should wear Becton down causing him to lunge and we hopefully get some nice things that happen from Becton getting tired and sloppy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 53 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’ll be breaking tradition by not wearing my Jerry jersey opening day because dude is so massive I’m worried he’ll be shut down. Wasn’t it the Gase coached fins that slathered us with Ajayi? Hopefully we field more than 10 defenders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I think he is a good player. He had a strip sack against Tannehill a few years back that was one of the most athletic plays I've ever seen a defender make, I just dont think he is dominate. This has more to do with Becton, who I think is going to be a good player, and what the Jets do to help him. If I had to put money on which defensive end has a better game against their tackle on Sunday, my money would be on Addison. He’s not “dominant” no. There are a handful of those in the league imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 It is interesting how this is the matchup talked about with Addison rushing from the other side and Ed Oliver coming up the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: It is interesting how this is the matchup talked about with Addison rushing from the other side and Ed Oliver coming up the middle I’ll take Addison vs Fant all day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Mekhi Beaton is a heckuva prospect.. speed can beat him, which Hughes has plenty of.. but Hughes isn’t a sack master.. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’s not “dominant” no. There are a handful of those in the league imo. Agreed. Incredibly hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 The Jets have Le Veon Bell at RB and somebody's dead grandmother at WR. I expect them to try to run to help shorten the game, to help their QB against safeties who disguise coverage as well as anyone and to help a reworked OL with a rookie LT. The Bills need to get a lead and force the Jets to be one dimensional and use the DL depth early and send waves at them until their tongues are hanging out. Nobody is in game shape, so get after them and stay after them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Becton is really going to benefit from having no fans in the stands. Rookie tackle going against a speed rusher when he can't hear the snap count is at a huge disadvantage he won't have to face. I think Bell is going to get a LOT of carries and balls thrown to him. The Bills run D needs to be on point. Very much hoping Butler is healthy enough to play Sunday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: He sounds very good. Well hopefully since the OL hadn’t played in s game together yet, and Alex lewis next to him is pretty average, Hughes has the advantage For a giant, he's an athletic freak, but he hasn't played an NFL game yet, and both Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison are pretty crafty veterans. Becton does not have a veteran's technique as he relied on his athleticism and size advantage in his college career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, eball said: "You better git ready for a fistfight in a phone booth, YEEEEEE HAAAAAWWWW!" What a jackass. What does that even mean? Greggggg has become a caricature of himself, quickly approaching Rex Ryan status. I really hope the Bills hang 40 on them. He has one year of a decent defense in the last 7 or so and he can't shut up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 The rookie will likely be very good someday. Tomorrow he benefits from no crowd at a road game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 So I liked Becton coming out but thought he was a little raw and might be a slow starter early this season. However, he has supposedly been very impressive in camp and has looked instantly like one of the best players on the roster in a way similar to when Tre White first started here. Fortunately for the Bills the rest of the line is still weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, TigerJ said: For a giant, he's an athletic freak, but he hasn't played an NFL game yet, and both Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison are pretty crafty veterans. Becton does not have a veteran's technique as he relied on his athleticism and size advantage in his college career. This is pretty much how I see it. Keeping up a rotation against Becton is important. I’m sure he’ll get help and they’ll run a lot, but I’d make sure we have a savvy vet going against him on every third and long. I’m sure we will also test him mentally with a lot of stunts and overloaded lines. Edited September 11, 2020 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Becton is a very large human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 hours ago, twist_to_open said: The kid may turn out to be a stud, but Sunday give me the savy veteran over the first time starting rookie. Yeah I think he is going to be great. But it’s going to be tough for rookie olineman week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Nanker said: Becton is a very large human. I think he has Walter Jones/Orlando Pace potential... he really is that good.. If the Jets don’t beat the Bills I doubt it’ll be because of Becton.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Remember when we were super confident about Mario Williams dominating Austin Howard? Hopefully we don’t get a repeat of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, Bangarang said: Remember when we were super confident about Mario Williams dominating Austin Howard? Hopefully we don’t get a repeat of that. I actually don’t remember that. I remember one game at MetLife where Rex said Mario couldn’t play because he was sick ...needed an IV or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I actually don’t remember that. I remember one game at MetLife where Rex said Mario couldn’t play because he was sick ...needed an IV or something We got curb stomped by the Jets and Mario was complaining that Howard kept punching him in the face https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1328166-nfl-week-1-after-jets-vs-bills-mario-williams-angry-at-replacement-referees.amp.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Bangarang said: We got curb stomped by the Jets and Mario was complaining that Howard kept punching him in the face https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1328166-nfl-week-1-after-jets-vs-bills-mario-williams-angry-at-replacement-referees.amp.html That was the most disappointing week 1 ever. I thought we had a wildcard shot going into week 1. By the end of that game I wondered how we would win a single game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown24 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Throw out the stupid draft analysis and what you think you know. Here’s the truth. He’s a rookie LT. He’s going to get beat. Hopefully he manages to look impressive in between the bad moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I loved Becton as a prospect, and I think, in time, he’ll be a great LT. That said, I’ve seen what Jerry Hughes speed, bend, and creativity does to rookie LTs, and I can assure you that Becton will have his hands full. Also remember that Addison comes off the right side too, so it’s not just Hughes he’ll be dealing with. I expect a LOT of max protect to give the Jets receivers time to find space in Buffalo’s zone. The downside for them is that it take the Jets’ best matchup pieces—Bell and Herndon—out of pass routes in critical situations. Of course I expect Buffalo to counter by mixing in a lot of Cover-1/Robber to keep pressure on their 7-man protection sets and take advantage of their superior secondary. If I’m the Jets, the matchup I’m most worried about is Edmunds—perhaps one of the best plus-1 rushers in the game—being singled up on Herndon. That’s a complete mismatch; there are quality OTs that struggle with Edmunds length/speed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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