BullBuchanan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Davante Adams is clearly WR1 in GB (says something about GB WR,) What does it say? Adams is a Tier 1 elite WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: What does it say? Adams is a Tier 1 elite WR. Yeah i agree with you...is Adams somehow not an elite receiver in some peoples’ minds? I get that guys like Michael Thomas have raised the bar but damn, I’ll take Davante on the the Bills any day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: What does it say? Adams is a Tier 1 elite WR. He is a good WR1, not a top WR1 IMO 15 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: What does it say? Adams is a Tier 1 elite WR. He is ok as a #1, not a top tier #1 IMO. He has 1 x 1000 yd season in 6 seasons in GB. John Brown has the same number of 1k seasons in one season in Buffalo. Edited September 5, 2020 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: He is a good WR1, not a top WR1 IMO He is ok as a #1, not a top tier #1 IMO. He has 1 x 1000 yd season in 6 seasons in GB. John Brown has the same number of 1k seasons in one season in Buffalo. Davante's problem isn't talent. It is health. He has played in 16 games once since his rookie year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: He is a good WR1, not a top WR1 IMO He is ok as a #1, not a top tier #1 IMO. He has 1 x 1000 yd season in 6 seasons in GB. John Brown has the same in one season in Buffalo. And he also has 44 touchdowns over that span. Considering he was a depth player his first two seasons, put up 997 yards twice, double digit TDs 3 times, and last year put up 997 over only 12 games played. I've watched him play a lot. He's no worse than 5th best in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Davante's problem isn't talent. It is health. He has played in 16 games once since his rookie year. Availability is an ability. The same could be said about John Brown. GB was ok with Davante, Allison, MVS, etc.... Buffalo had Jon Brown and went out and got Stephon Diggs. JB has 2x1k seasons, DA has 1. Similar # of seasons. JB did it among 3 teams, DA has 1 in the same # of seasons with 1 QB. Buffalo improved at WR, GB did not. No one talks about JB as a #1 WR, but DA is. It's ridiculous. By that logic, Buffalo now has 2 #1 WR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, RocCityRoller said: Availability is an ability. The same could be said about John Brown. GB was ok with Davante, Allison, MVS, etc.... Buffalo had Jon Brown and went out and got Stephon Diggs. JB has 2x1k seasons, DA has 1. Similar # of seasons. JB did it among 3 teams, DA has 1 in the same # of seasons with 1 QB. Buffalo improved at WR, GB did not. No one talks about JB as a #1 WR, but DA is. It's ridiculous. By that logic, Buffalo now has 2 #1 WR You just put the tape one and it is obvious that Adams is a better player. The depth of Green Bay's receivers around him is not in question. It is bad. But Davante Adams is a top NFL receiver and a better player than John Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, GunnerBill said: You just put the tape one and it is obvious that Adams is a better player. The depth of Green Bay's receivers around him is not in question. It is bad. But Davante Adams is a top NFL receiver and a better player than John Brown. JB has more 1k seasons. Would GB gain by trading for Foster? Yes, Yes they would. That is my point. See the forest for the trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said: JB has more 1k seasons. Would GB gain by trading for Foster? Yes, Yes they would. That is my point. See the forest for the trees. Green Bay would gain by trading for Eric Moulds. Even now. Their 2, 3, 4 is as bad as any depth in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Green Bay would gain by trading for Eric Moulds. Even now. Their 2, 3, 4 is as bad as any depth in the league. who wouldn't like Eric Moulds! He was a HOF talent wasted here. I'm only teasing you some. I think DA is an ok #1,but misses too many games. 1 1k season with Aaron Rogers, really. But now he is great? Questionable. He is great in the endzone/ red zone, but how much of that is Aaron Rogers? Buffalo had JB and improved. GB did not. GB could use a Robert Foster these days, which was the point of the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: who wouldn't like Eric Moulds! He was a HOF talent wasted here. I'm only teasing you some. I think DA is an ok #1,but misses too many games. 1 1k season with Aaron Rogers, really. But now he is great? Questionable. He is great in the endzone/ red zone, but how much of that is Aaron Rogers? Buffalo had JB and improved. GB did not. GB could use a Robert Foster these days, which was the point of the OP I think Foster definitely has trade value. Have been saying that for weeks. He has game breaking speed and value as a special teams gunner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, ColeB said: Did you know he has a brother Osiris who is a WR for Stanford and a brother Amon-Ra who is a WR for USC? If those names aren’t strange enough, his parents’ last name is just Brown and their father has the most common name of John. Egytptian gods. It's a black power thing. I could take you to my hood, but we would both be uncomfortable there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Not sure how this became a Davonte Adams thread. All I was saying is that after an ok DA as a #1 GB has nothing. Robert Foster has value there. He also has value to Philly and SF. I'd expect RF to sign with any of them after tomorrow if Beane can't get a 6 or 7 for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Not sure why you and others wanted to fight me then!?! DA is a solid WR#1, not great, solid. After him it is garbage. GB needs WR. So do SF and Philly. A 6 or 7 for Foster makes sense since all of them need WR help. This thread is about Buffalo Bills with value at cut down. Foster has value to GB/SF/Philly. I hope we get a pick from him. I only chimed in on Adams. I never argued your point about Foster at all. You are wrong on Adams. You are right on Foster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I only chimed in on Adams. I never argued your point about Foster at all. You are wrong on Adams. You are right on Foster. Fair enough, I think Adams is only 'ok'. He misses too many games IMO. I'm one of those folks who believes availability is an ability. But then again I am a manager in my role. To get back to our Bills, how great is it now that we are arguing about players being cut for a better roster? Honest question, was anyone cut Friday other than the 2 on Defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said: Fair enough, I think Adams is only 'ok'. He misses too many games IMO. I'm one of those folks who believes availability is an ability. But then again I am a manager in my role. To get back to our Bills, how great is it now that we are arguing about players being cut for a better roster? Honest question, was anyone cut Friday other than the 2 on Defense? The Bills roster is stacked. Thompson was on the 53 last year. Joseph is one year removed from being a 5th round pick. Yet neither found a spot. Those were the only two cuts we heard about. DiMarco IR for the year was the other significant move. I'd be surprised if we got a pick for Croom, but Foster I can see a player teams might flick a 6th or a 7th for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: The Bills roster is stacked. Thompson was on the 53 last year. Joseph is one year removed from being a 5th round pick. Yet neither found a spot. Those were the only two cuts we heard about. DiMarco IR for the year was the other significant move. I'd be surprised if we got a pick for Croom, but Foster I can see a player teams might flick a 6th or a 7th for. Thanks, I didn't miss too much today. OK with Thompson and Joseph going. Good college/ role players, didn't translate to the NFL. I appreciate the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 hours ago, iinii said: This thread is now 12 pages long and is still a bunch dogs chasing a metaphorical bone; so yeah pretty useless. you have the option to ignore it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Maybe I am reading too much into this, but better buffalo bills.com mentioned4 transactions yesterday including activating Sweeney. Now the only mention the IR and 2 cuts. I thought it was odd they would elevate him from PUP the day before cutdown as it means they would have to cut another person. If they wait till after cutdown they can slide Feliciano to no season ending IR and bring back Sweeney with one less cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Looks like Dodson and the LB they acquired from Carolina are both making the final 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Nobody is worried about DiMarco...Juszczyk makes that catch 99 out of 100 times DiMarco was the original Juszcyk. You do know what they have in common, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: DiMarco was the original Juszcyk. You do know what they have in common, right? They're both fullbacks They’re both white They wear numbers in the 40s They played for Kyle Shanshan They both hit free agency in 2017 They both received offers from the Bills They both had 3 carries for 7 total yards in 2019 Other than that, not much right? 🍻 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: They're both fullbacks They’re both white They wear numbers in the 40s They played for Kyle Shanshan They both hit free agency in 2017 They both received offers from the Bills They both had 3 carries for 7 total yards in 2019 Other than that, not much right? 🍻 Nope. Its that they are both Tauruses. You’re welcome. Edited September 5, 2020 by JoshAllenHasBigHands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 40 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: DiMarco was the original Juszcyk. You do know what they have in common, right? They both choose ranch over blue cheese, and they’re both right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 So no cuts yet today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 8 hours ago, iinii said: This thread is now 12 pages long and is still a bunch dogs chasing a metaphorical bone; so yeah pretty useless. Imagine the 40 useless threads on individual player news if we didn’t do it this way. Bills have been known to release players to cut down day earlier than most teams, so we planned accordingly. I understand there are many new openings on the Bears Fan pages. Perhaps you’d feel happier there. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Well ladies and gents, today is the day. The final cut down to get to 55. Week one on deck. This is actually happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Imagine the 40 useless threads on individual player news if we didn’t do it this way. Bills have been known to release players to cut down day earlier than most teams, so we planned accordingly. I understand there are many new openings on the Bears Fan pages. Perhaps you’d feel happier there. If doing these style threads though they need to get done right or they actually make it harder for most to keep up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: If doing these style threads though they need to get done right or they actually make it harder for most to keep up Yep, I got out of work and had to scan the entire double digit pages to get caught up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Never happy..🤦♂️ When the bomb drops @OBD, I’ll edit the thread to mark the page. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 For once, I'm actually glad I work on Saturdays. My F5 key will live to engage another day 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Never happy..🤦♂️ When the bomb drops @OBD, I’ll edit the thread to mark the page. Keep fighting the good fight. I appreciate the lack of clutter and LAMP threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, H2o said: Well ladies and gents, today is the day. The final cut down to get to 55. Week one on deck. This is actually happening. I read that the first time as Beef on Weck. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, ColeB said: I read that the first time as Beef on Weck. You know you're from Buffalo when... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I am starting to get worried. If we are IRing DiMarco and trading Foster, who is left on this team that can run Go routes for those deep bombs? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I am starting to get worried. If we are IRing DiMarco and trading Foster, who is left on this team that can run Go routes for those deep bombs? How dare you forget about the kid that only catches touchdowns? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I think I can hear Brandon Beane's trade phone ringing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 9 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: A cut tomorrow doesn’t determine Fromm won’t start in the league at some point. No, it doesn’t, but the point I was responding to suggested Fromm wouldn’t be much help in the QB room. If I read one, I musta read 20 pundits claiming that was exactly what Fromm was gonna do for Josh, push him in the QB room and help his understanding of the game. Nothing against Fromm but I thought that viewpoint was kind of insulting to Webb, Barkley, AND Josh - that a rookie would just walk in and know more about playing NFL football in Daboll’s offense so he’d be teaching 3 Vets 9 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: IF this had been a regular offseason with a regular preseason Fromm would of beat out Barkley. No doubt in my mind. Fromm has all the tools Barkley has. Fromm’s floor is Barkley. We’ll never know now. I don’t think Beane likes to cut draft picks. It’ll be interesting. I tend to think Fromm’s floor is Peterman, but then again he’s still in the league so....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Never happy..🤦♂️ When the bomb drops @OBD, I’ll edit the thread to mark the page. its the same expectation as a UDFA thread here or cut day, signing day, or general non sports breaking news etc... at pretty much every other board I read. It just means the person that starts it plans to be around for a good bit of the day or you wait and let someone else do it that can do regular updates. It makes your job easier and the board better and for some reason it’s always gets disregarded as being needy when brought up instead of a chance to “train up” expectation Edited September 5, 2020 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I tend to think Fromm’s floor is Peterman, but then again he’s still in the league so....... I think his floor is higher than Peterman. I think Barkley is more like a ceiling than a floor though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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