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In all seriousness, can you imagine actually being a fan of this team?

 

  • Racially offensive nickname
  • Greediest, most corporately soulless owner on the planet (and that's saying a lot)
  • Incompetent management at all levels
  • Next to no history of winning over the last 25+ years
  • Terrible ridiculous overpriced stadium experience
  • Located in possibly the worst place to live in the entire country
  • Dwayne Haskins is your QB
  • Hired Retread Riverboat Ron Rivera
  • Zero hope for future improvement
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37 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Native Americans are being oppressed in this country? Really? Where exactly? All I see is people getting rich owning a share of your local casino. And....Good for them!

 

You clearly haven’t driven deep through a reservation lately.

 

also;

 

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/dakota-man-exposes-vile-history-of-redskins-tNK0J1kxGkOao8FaHk4a7w

 

“Redskin” was an expression for  Native skins traded  in  to collect bounties. It’s a sick word with even worse connotation. A nation of people literally treated like animals.

 

There is no equating to “Chiefs” or “Seminoles” whatsoever, no matter how you try to justify it.

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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 So despite a steady call for many years by countless public and private citizens, editorials, millions of column inches in newspapers and the internet all over the world, it's only "severe pressure" when Coke and Fedex make these types of marketing moves and "demand" a name change?

 

Pretty much. If you don't see that I guess you don't understand tbe world of economics.

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The Washington Redskins have a long and proud history imo.  The name wasn't meant to be disparaging, they wouldn't name their own team something they thought was nasty or mean.  But it isn't a good name, it wouldn't be considered acceptable to call American Indians as Redskins.  Right?  Not now or before really.  So regardless if the name wasn't meant to be disparaging, it still is when taken by itself.  

Really the the bad thing about changing a team name/mascot is they usually end up picking something nobody is really happy with.  
Bullets to Wizards? meh. 

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If we're truly talking about that which is offensive to Native American sensibilities what about "Buffalo Bill"?  Here was a man who helped decimate the food supply of Native Americans, allegedly killing over 4000 bison in 18 months to feed Union Pacific railroad workers, which itself helped push the manifest destiny of removing Native Americans from their ancestral lands. Yes, I find Buffalo Bills just as offensive as Redskins. It too needs to be changed!

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2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 So despite a steady call for many years by countless public and private citizens, editorials, millions of column inches in newspapers and the internet all over the world, it's only "severe pressure" when Coke and Fedex make these types of marketing moves and "demand" a name change?

 

I giess today's news that the Redskins are now considering a name change was from all those private citizen complaints and editorials and not from yesterday's threats!

 

What a coincidence, huh?

 

LOL

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Long overdue.

 

I grew up near and currently live in the D.C. metropolitan area and remember Native Americans protesting the name back when Cooke was still the owner.

 

I pay zero attention to those who oppose the name change.  You're wrong.  That's the end of it.

 

I've always thought that Washington Warriors had a nice ring to it.  Red Tails, as mentioned on page 1, is a great name too.

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I found this: Interesting. I think this name change would tie in with history and be an easy off the tongue football moniker "Washington Warriors"

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When owner Daniel Synder was in the early stages of setting up an arena football team in Washington, he trademarked "Warriors" with an arrow logo. The league would later go under, and the Redskins would use the spear logo in 2002. 

Dave McKenna of the Washington City Paper outlined that history:

Snyder bought the DC franchise rights for the AFL shortly after taking over the Redskins. He said back then that he was going to name the indoor team the Warriors, and registered trademarks for that name and for an arrow-and-feather logo and helmet design.

If the Redskins were forced to change, wouldn't "Warriors" be another easy switch?

The logo wouldn't have to change drastically, nor would the colors. Just the name.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1528090-if-washington-redskins-must-change-team-name-whats-the-best-fit

3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

Long overdue.

 

I grew up near and currently live in the D.C. metropolitan area and remember Native Americans protesting the name back when Cooke was still the owner.

 

I pay zero attention to those who oppose the name change.  You're wrong.  That's the end of it.

 

I've always thought that Washington Warriors had a nice ring to it.  Red Tails, as mentioned on page 1, is a great name too.

great minds think alike, and so does yours and mine lol. we posted nearly simultaneously ?

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If anyone thinks Snyder will go with the flow and name the team what other people want, they don't know Daniel Snyder.

 

If forced, Snyder will name the team what he he wants as it will be his legacy...and I'm willing to bet it will be something controversial.

 

How about the Washington Indians?

 

Don't even need a logo change.

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I love the Redtails concept but regardless, happy to see it appears that my local team is finally changing their name.

 

Howard University just landed one of the best basketball recruits in the country too (assuming he’s actually goes to college). Pretty big day here sports wise. 

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how far are we going with this stuff..George Washington and family owned slaves so should he no longer be considered as father of our country and or should we change the name of our nations capital ? not tot mention that Thomas Jefferson did as well

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, aceman_16 said:

Well...Washington owned 100s of slaves. I can see them dropping Washington in their name.

 

Heck our beloved Buffalo Bills (ya know named after Buffalo Bill Cody) should be questioned in all this ruckus. In other words,, should the Bills change their name due to Buffalo Bill Cody’s racist behavior as a gesture of apology to all Native Americans and other U.S. citizens? After all, Buffalo Bill was an Indian (Native American) fighter, assisting in systematically committing genocide against the indigenous inhabitants....just sayin'!

 

NOW I personally don't believe we should but you can see the long slippery slope we get into. My only hope is that people at least be consistent with their "cancel culture" herd mentality and not cherry pick and choose.

I don't know the Bills are named for that historical person.  Your source of that trivia, please.  I have lived in WNY for more than 70 years, that  is news to me, a lifelong Bills fan.  I suspect you made that up, actually. (I was born before the original Bills which existed in the late 40's, name was readopted in 1960 when the AFL was formed)

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20 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I love the Redtails concept but regardless, happy to see it appears that my local team is finally changing their name.

 

Howard University just landed one of the best basketball recruits in the country too (assuming he’s actually goes to college). Pretty big day here sports wise. 

 

Except this has nothing to do with sports......if we're being honest.

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29 minutes ago, Beast said:

If anyone thinks Snyder will go with the flow and name the team what other people want, they don't know Daniel Snyder.

 

If forced, Snyder will name the team what he he wants as it will be his legacy...and I'm willing to bet it will be something controversial.

 

How about the Washington Indians?

 

Don't even need a logo change.

 

Snyder will do whatever the rest of the league tells him to do. If the other owners feel he needs to change the name he will do it. 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Beast said:

https://wtop.com/washington-redskins/2020/07/fedex-asks-washington-redskins-to-change-name/
 

Also, Nike has just pulled all Redskins merchandise.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2898699-nike-appears-to-remove-all-washington-nfl-team-apparel-from-online-store

 

This will be interesting to see if Snyder caves in to the cancel culture.

 

Are the KC Chiefs next?

 

Atlanta Braves?

 

the list of Indian names goes on and on.

You demonstrate that you don't understand at all by comparing "Redskins" to Chiefs and Braves. Get a clue...

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42 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

Long overdue.

 

I grew up near and currently live in the D.C. metropolitan area and remember Native Americans protesting the name back when Cooke was still the owner.

 

I pay zero attention to those who oppose the name change.  You're wrong.  That's the end of it.

 

I've always thought that Washington Warriors had a nice ring to it.  Red Tails, as mentioned on page 1, is a great name too.

 

....quite the crock of crap.....self righteous beyond.....been following NFL football since 1962 and NEVER once did I associate "Redskins" to Native Americans nor twist it into something detrimental....but the overtly sensitive "politically correctness crowd" wants you undivided attention......are we this screwed up?....

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4 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

You demonstrate that you don't understand at all by comparing "Redskins" to Chiefs and Braves. Get a clue...

 

You don't understand what this cancel culture is getting their panties in a bunch about.

 

I suggest you get a clue if you think it's stopping with the Redskins.

14 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

 

Snyder will do whatever the rest of the league tells him to do. If the other owners feel he needs to change the name he will do it. 

 

 

 

Doubtful. Very doubtful.

 

Ralph Wilson rarely listened to what the  league wanted and you think Daniel Snyder will?

 

LMAO

 

Only when it comes to him losing money is when he will listen as has been demonstrated today.

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1 minute ago, Beast said:

 

You don't understand what this cancel culture is getting their panties in a bunch about.

 

I suggest you get a clue if you think it's stopping with the Redskins.

i agree.. "Yankees"  a civil war term.. wonder if they would be willing to look into a name change? 

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5 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I have no problem Universities and State and local Govt’s taking down confederate images as it should have happened a long time ago.  What shocks me is for awhile I lived in an Eastern suburb of Tampa, called Brandon who don’t know FL that well.  There is some private citizen as you exit I-4 to start south on I-75, the largest confederate flag I’ve ever seen and it’s repulsive.  It’s not far from the Floridians on the board by the State Fairgrounds.  I just can’t believe there is not some ordinance the city council etc. to force them to take it down.  It is on a flag pole hundreds of feet high, and larger than any of the American flags in the area.

 

Makes me sick and yes, I’m Caucasian.  It is just as offensive to me as people of color.  All colors.  Anyone with any decency should be just as repulsed by not thinking All Lives Matter!

All lives do matter, and absolutely nothing about Black Lives Matter challenges that.

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