Kim Pegula: Regular Season Finale (Headset)

[CSBill]

Hey, she owns the teams, puts up a few million dollars to make it work, I would say she can do whatever she wants.

Edited June 27, 2020 by CSBill

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Based upon the tempest in a teapot this has created, I really think Mrs. P. needs to wear pink headphones every game, and a coach randomly selected will also have a similarly coloured set.  She can be listening to the broadcast crew; the coach will be carrying on as always with usual procedures.  The unfounded speculation on here regarding her 'coaching' ought to be good for a three page thread after every home game.  Better yet, I'm going to suggest Mark Davis for the Raiders start this practice.

 

Kim Pegula ? > Mark Davis ? ?

?

[CSBill]

14 hours ago, nucci said:

of course she can. Doesn't make it right

 

Is there a moral issue here?

[machine gun kelly]

12 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Personally I hate it!! The less involved the owner is the better. 

Like Snyder and Jerrah.  Sorry, it was too easy KJ.  You know I’m a fan.  Anyway, I don’t see the harm.  It’s not like she was telling McD what to do.  She just wanted to experience the chaos.  Must be a Joker fan.  Why so Serious?  My favorite bad guy from all of those Batman movies.

[machine gun kelly]

31 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Based upon the tempest in a teapot this has created, I really think Mrs. P. needs to wear pink headphones every game, and a coach randomly selected will also have a similarly coloured set.  She can be listening to the broadcast crew; the coach will be carrying on as always with usual procedures.  The unfounded speculation on here regarding her 'coaching' ought to be good for a three page thread after every home game.  Better yet, I'm going to suggest Mark Davis for the Raiders start this practice.

 

Kim Pegula ? > Mark Davis ? ?

?

Nothing like waking up on a Saturday to a sarcastic and funny Ridgeway post.  You always keep me laughing Ridge.  I actually had that dork now in Vegas with the worst haircut on the planet (he must have loved Dumb and Dumber), that stupid jumpsuit, wearing a pink Headset.  That visual is chilling to say the least.

[nucci]

1 hour ago, CSBill said:

 

Is there a moral issue here?

No, just my opinion

[Just Joshin']

14 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Personally I hate it!! The less involved the owner is the better. 

Involved is not listening and learning.  Involved is making game day decisions.  IMO the more an owner knows the better. 

 

I agree they should not be making game day decisions but knowing more is always good.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

This just in!  Robert Kraft is rumoured to be donning a headset for all Patriot games.  Although not actively coaching, he is purported to be offering 'incentives' to players during the game for outstanding performance.  Nothing like the owner giving his players a hand for their hard work.  ?

[Mr. WEO]

18 hours ago, The Wiz said:

I get the feeling she's was just listening and not chiming in with her personnel preferences on 3rd and long. 

 

No issue with it. 

 

She demanded more laterals and FB fly patterns

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

She demanded more laterals and FB fly patterns

?

Those who live by the 'home run throwback' die by the 'home run throwback'...?

[hondo in seattle]

16 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Personally I hate it!! The less involved the owner is the better. 

 

It depends on the character of the involvement.

 

If Kim starts calling plays and Terry starts making draft picks, there's a huge problem.

 

But going to games, attending practices, and even wearing headsets simply shows they're interested and care about what's going on.  

 

I'd rather have engaged (but not meddling) ownership than absentee owners.  

 

And, c'mon Kirby, if you owned the Bills, you wouldn't want to listen in at least once?

Edited June 27, 2020 by hondo in seattle

[Kirby Jackson]

3 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Like Snyder and Jerrah.  Sorry, it was too easy KJ.  You know I’m a fan.  Anyway, I don’t see the harm.  It’s not like she was telling McD what to do.  She just wanted to experience the chaos.  Must be a Joker fan.  Why so Serious?  My favorite bad guy from all of those Batman movies.

 

2 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

Involved is not listening and learning.  Involved is making game day decisions.  IMO the more an owner knows the better. 

 

I agree they should not be making game day decisions but knowing more is always good.

I guess I just look at it as she’s one step closer to having a button to call plays. The owner’s role is to entertain politicians and business people on a game day. It’s not to hear a conversation between McDermott, Daboll and Allen. It’s not to wait outside for autographs. This really isn’t a big deal but it just confirms what I already believed. We have super fans as owners. That’s not  a compliment. Super fans make players and coaches uncomfortable.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Pics or it didn't happen.

[Kirby Jackson]

17 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

It depends on the character of the involvement.

 

If Kim starts calling plays and Terry starts making draft picks, there's a huge problem.

 

But going to games, attending practices, and even wearing headsets simply shows they're interested and care about what's going on.  

 

I'd rather have engaged (but not meddling ownership than absentee owners.  

 

And, c'mon Kirby, if you owned the Bills, you wouldn't want to listen in at least once?

Lol, I really wouldn’t. I would be so cognizant of micromanaging that wouldn’t be on the agenda. 

Edited June 27, 2020 by Kirby Jackson

[hondo in seattle]

16 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Lol, I really wouldn’t. I would be so cognizant of micromanaging that wouldn’t be on the agenda. 

 

Then you're a better man than I am.  I'd absolutely wear a headset at least once if I owned the Bills.  

 

The BN reports that Kim was talked into it by the VP of IT who told her, "If you really want to what's going on on the field, you need to be on the headset." 

 

That makes me think he's been on the headset.  And that makes me wonder, who else has been on headsets?  Maybe it's not uncommon for the coaches to have silent eavesdroppers.      

[Dopey]

So that's why Duke was targeted 12 times in that game. Fire her!!!

Never mind, she can do what she wants.

Edited June 27, 2020 by Dopey

[Doc]

41 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Lol, I really wouldn’t. I would be so cognizant of micromanaging that wouldn’t be on the agenda. 

 

There's another term for that.  And medication.

[Kirby Jackson]

28 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Then you're a better man than I am.  I'd absolutely wear a headset at least once if I owned the Bills.  

 

The BN reports that Kim was talked into it by the VP of IT who told her, "If you really want to what's going on on the field, you need to be on the headset." 

 

That makes me think he's been on the headset.  And that makes me wonder, who else has been on headsets?  Maybe it's not uncommon for the coaches to have silent eavesdroppers.      

He’s definitely been on the headsets. That’s kind of his job though at some level. He needs to make sure everything is flowing on game day. There are a bunch of people I’m sure.

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Lol, I really wouldn’t. I would be so cognizant of micromanaging that wouldn’t be on the agenda. 

Ah come on dude. Like Jerry said, I wouldn’t own the team if I couldn’t be the President.

 

That job rules

[Mango]

19 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Personally I hate it!! The less involved the owner is the better. 

 

I think the issue is, this isn’t like a Buscotti who lets his football people do football things, but takes an afternoon to experience what game day is like.

 

When it comes to this, you can’t separate it from the constant meddling from the Pegula’s. Especially on the Sabre’s side. 

[Don Otreply]

21 hours ago, nucci said:

as a coach I wouldn't like it

As a coach I would proceed as if she wasn’t there, and if the owner doesn’t like it then too bad, Sean can get a job anywhere in the NFL, so I don’t think he gives a rats azs concerning this gigantic nothing burger ?.., 

 

I’m quite certain owners listen in up

in their booth regularly. 
 

Go Bills!!!

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

On 6/26/2020 at 3:19 PM, YoloinOhio said:

She owns the team and can do whatever she wants. It may have been a suggestion from McDermott even to give her the flavor of what takes place during the game. 

 

Actually the article stated it was suggested by someone in the front office, think on the scouting side??  Didn't sound like she listened all that long either, maybe a couple series or so.

[JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS]

I dunno did she direct the HC to replace the QB on the eve of an important playoff game and then direct the HC to lie about who made that decision and then fire said HC for not firing an assistant coach as the fall guy for her meddling?

 

Then Im not worried.

 

[SirAndrew]

6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

I guess I just look at it as she’s one step closer to having a button to call plays. The owner’s role is to entertain politicians and business people on a game day. It’s not to hear a conversation between McDermott, Daboll and Allen. It’s not to wait outside for autographs. This really isn’t a big deal but it just confirms what I already believed. We have super fans as owners. That’s not  a compliment. Super fans make players and coaches uncomfortable.

Exactly, I’d like to know how many people who are good with it would like their boss being part of something they typically aren’t. Regardless of how good a relationship you have with your boss, there are limits to how involved you want them to be. The best employees don’t want their bosses in on every conversation. I don’t want to make this into a big deal, but it’s not how professional organizations are run, and feels amateurish. What good can come out of the boss eavesdropping on the coaches headset ? I don’t see any upside. 

[Doc]

21 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Exactly, I’d like to know how many people who are good with it would like their boss being part of something they typically aren’t. Regardless of how good a relationship you have with your boss, there are limits to how involved you want them to be. The best employees don’t want their bosses in on every conversation. I don’t want to make this into a big deal, but it’s not how professional organizations are run, and feels amateurish. What good can come out of the boss eavesdropping on the coaches headset ? I don’t see any upside. 

 

It's a major stretch to think that just because Kim merely listened to conversations between her coaches and players during a meaningless game and at the insistence of someone else and with clearance beforehand, that she has any intention of calling plays.  It borders on ridiculous and smacks of an agenda. 

[SirAndrew]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

It's a major stretch to think that just because Kim merely listened to conversations between her coaches and players during a meaningless game and at the insistence of someone else and with clearance beforehand, that she has any intention of calling plays.  It borders on ridiculous and smacks of an agenda. 

I never said that Kim plans on calling plays. That is a major stretch from what I had written. I was merely making the point that Pegula is McDermott’s boss. There are certain places a boss doesn’t belong if they want their employees to feel trusted and free to perform their jobs. It’s not a big deal, but if a bunch of small things like that happen behind the scenes, it becomes a big deal over time. I’m not one hundred percent convinced that McD would have loved it. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Maybe she was in charge of counting Bills on the field?  Wrecks wasn't good at that...?

[Kirby Jackson]

Again, it’s not a huge deal but there are no positives that could come out of this. If she decides she wants to be more involved it’s a negative. There is no situation where it’s a positive. Someone brought up the VP of IT earlier. There are potential positives to him being on the headsets. If there are issues he can troubleshoot them. There is no scenario where it’s “good thing Kim is on here.” Not a big deal but not professional either

[boater]

She owns the team. Get over your class envy and warfare and accept that.

 

There's reasons why Buffalo lags economically. Class warfare is top of the list.

[Kirby Jackson]

9 minutes ago, boater said:

She owns the team. Get over your class envy and warfare and accept that.

 

There's reasons why Buffalo lags economically. Class warfare is top of the list.

I don’t think anyone is denying her right to do it. She can coach the team if she wants. It’s her business. Generally the best owners are hands off business people, not super fans. Both of those things are true. 

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I never said that Kim plans on calling plays. That is a major stretch from what I had written. I was merely making the point that Pegula is McDermott’s boss. There are certain places a boss doesn’t belong if they want their employees to feel trusted and free to perform their jobs. It’s not a big deal, but if a bunch of small things like that happen behind the scenes, it becomes a big deal over time. I’m not one hundred percent convinced that McD would have loved it. 

 

It was in KJ's post, to which you responded.  I didn't feel like quoting that one as well.

 

And if a boss who doesn't know what my job entails wanted to watch me perform during, say, a colonoscopy on a young. healthy and slim patient, I'd have no problem with it.  If he/she wanted to tell me how to do my job, that would be something entirely different.  But there's no indication Kim wanted/wants to do anything more than experience it once and I doubt McD had a problem with it. 

 

[WhoTom]

37 minutes ago, boater said:

She owns the team. Get over your class envy and warfare and accept that.

 

There's reasons why Buffalo lags economically. Class warfare is top of the list.

 

First, I have no objections to her listening in.

 

Second ... class warfare? If you criticize a rich person for anything it's class warfare? Did anyone in this thread even mention wealth and equate it with evil?

 

 

 

[Augie]

37 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I know it bothers you, but to this point they've demonstrated they are clueless sports owners who got lucky with McDermott/Beane... wouldn't surprise me at all if they wanted to call a few plays a game. 

 

WOW! Quite the leap there! I hope you don’t really believe that. 

[Protocal69]

If the game mattered she wouldn't have had the headset. Besides it's her team

 

 

 

[Happy]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I don’t think anyone is denying her right to do it. She can coach the team if she wants. It’s her business. Generally the best owners are hands off business people, not super fans. Both of those things are true. 

 

No doubt everything you have said about Kim wearing a headset are legit takes.  I suspect (and really hope) she was just curious and wanted to see what goes on during a game.  Otherwise, we become the NYS equivalent of the Washington Redskins, which is terrifying to think about.

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I don’t think anyone is denying her right to do it. She can coach the team if she wants. It’s her business. Generally the best owners are hands off business people, not super fans. Both of those things are true. 

 

Kirby, I hear ya, and I get it. You ask what is to be gained? I ask what does it hurt in one meaningless game if she’s just listening. Either way, no big deal, unless it’s not a one time deal. 

 

This is small potatoes compared to the BIG question: will we have a relatively “normal”  season of football?  I’m getting more concerned by the day, but life goes on. 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

I know it bothers you, but to this point they've demonstrated they are clueless sports owners who got lucky with McDermott/Beane... wouldn't surprise me at all if they wanted to call a few plays a game. 

 

Wrong opinions (which are like...) don't bother me, Scott.  Lack of consistency and hypocrisy, do.

[WhoTom]

1 hour ago, Happy said:

 

No doubt everything you have said about Kim wearing a headset are legit takes.  I suspect (and really hope) she was just curious and wanted to see what goes on during a game.  Otherwise, we become the NYS equivalent of the Washington Redskins, which is terrifying to think about.

 

In terms of their public personas, nothing about Kim or Terry reminds me of Dan Snyder or Jerry Jones. Nothing.

 

 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, WhoTom said:

In terms of their public personas, nothing about Kim or Terry reminds me of Dan Snyder or Jerry Jones. Nothing.

 

Won't be long before Kim has a mask made of McD, quietly gets rid of him and then takes over as HC.

[Happy]

2 hours ago, WhoTom said:

 

In terms of their public personas, nothing about Kim or Terry reminds me of Dan Snyder or Jerry Jones. Nothing.

 

 

 

Actually, Jerry Jones knows a good amount about football and how to run the team as the GM.  He has put a good amount of talent on the team, both on offense and defense.  Now why they haven't been more successful....not sure if that is a result of him being a little too 'hands on' as an owner/GM or Jason Garrett not being a very good HC.  We'll soon see with Mike McCarthy.