NobesBLO13 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Fake noose, amirite folks? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 49 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Please explain who in your mind should be 'manning up' No. 44 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Who else reacted the way you did? It's funny that you're trying to justify it now...lol Several posters on the first two pages voiced skepticism, but I am sure you know that. Except that I wrote my apology long before the FBI released their report. What's funny is the posters still trying to justify their immediate claim of racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Poojer said: I was really confused about how a noose could be found inside a garage and folks Not jump to it being a racist hateful action until I saw this tweet. The symbol has been used as a symbol of hate /lynching/racism for years. The implication dots seemed pretty close together and rational to me at first glance. Black driver, hate symbol associated with lynching of blacks... It clearly isn't a joke symbol. To read it was a garage pull is really the furthest idea Id have guessed. That's got to be a flukey way to pull a garage door open and shut right? Ive never seen a noose as anything other than a death device. Plenty of images of that. To think of it not being a hate symbol is much more far fetched an idea IMHO. Especially in view of racial tensions being so high right now. People giving this story time to play out Props to them but dont make it seem like we who assumed it was despicably oriented are somehow flawed or irrational. 33 minutes ago, NobesBLO13 said: Fake noose, amirite folks? apparently so...see the tweet poojer originally posted Edited June 24, 2020 by Muppy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Nice. Why was loop cut off, though? In the current picture. The author seems to stop short at the end. I feel like any curious investigator would want to know the circumstances around the noose being cut off and where it was placed... Because they cut it off when they thought it was an actual noose I'm getting Not a garage pull handle Edited June 23, 2020 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: No. Several posters on the first two pages voiced skepticism, but I am sure you know that. Except that I wrote my apology long before the FBI released their report. What's funny is the posters still trying to justify their immediate claim of racism. You're still not understanding the difference between "voiced skepticism" and outright calling it a hoax. I also doubt you understand why your apology isn't well-received while you come back in the thread to try to justify the thing you apologized for... Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 It took the FB friggin I to figure this out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Because they cut it off as part of the story that there was an actual noose Not a garage pull handle "They" being the Richard Petty racing team? Yeah, right now I'm just assuming it was cut-off after the fact. Apparently, it was the only stall with a noose tied, but it been that way since at least October. Safe to say it wasn't directed at Wallace at this point, but the facts surrounding the noose itself aren't entirely adding up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Nice. Why was loop cut off, though? In the current picture. The author seems to stop short at the end. I feel like any curious investigator would want to know the circumstances around the noose being cut off and where it was placed... I'm guessing either someone on his crew cut it off when they saw it, or NASCAR or the FBI cut it and took it as evidence. As more information has come out, from pictures and video, it seems it wouldn't have mattered which garage they assigned him, all the doors had the same rope pull installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: It took the FB friggin I to figure this out? It probably shouldn't have, but the accusations of a federal crime deemed it necessary they be called in. It sounds like NASCAR still wants to know why any pull rope would be tied into a noose in the first place. I doubt they get very far with that, though. Just now, Just Jack said: I'm guessing either someone on his crew cut it off when they saw it, or NASCAR or the FBI cut it and took it as evidence. As more information has come out, from pictures and video, it seems it wouldn't have mattered which garage they assigned him, all the doors had the same rope pull installed. yeah, that's what I assume. NASCAR said it's the only one that had a noose tied, but it was already like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It probably shouldn't have, but the accusations of a federal crime deemed it necessary they be called in. It sounds like NASCAR still wants to know why any pull rope would be tied into a noose in the first place. I doubt they get very far with that, though. yeah, that's what I assume. NASCAR said it's the only one that had a noose tied, but it was already like that. That's why I provided the link earlier, that guy basically had written up, and provided pictures, of everything I was going to say. Here's some additional info. In the earlier video from the truck series garages, that's a different garage area. Map of the speedway https://www.talladegasuperspeedway.com/Plan-Your-Visit/~/media/16DE19C2B294465B9A2745F99F125887.ashx The Gander Trucks use a different garage area than NASCAR. Both garage areas use/used the same rope pull for the doors. You can also see, between the video and the pictures, the doors on the NASCAR garages are wider. So I don't know why someone with NASCAR, or any of the other teams, said "Hey! we all have nooses in our garages." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: "They" being the Richard Petty racing team? Yeah, right now I'm just assuming it was cut-off after the fact. Apparently, it was the only stall with a noose tied, but it been that way since at least October. Safe to say it wasn't directed at Wallace at this point, but the facts surrounding the noose itself aren't entirely adding up. When I say they, I do mean that I believe that they did think it was a noose, so whoever found it probably cut it down I don't think it was intentional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rico Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Just goes to show once again that you can't trust anybody named Bubba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Rico said: Just goes to show once again that you can't trust anybody named Bubba. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: who was the first to report on the “noose” ? Jesus. We tried. Too soon. Back to the kiddie table, Tedward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: That's why I provided the link earlier, that guy basically had written up, and provided pictures, of everything I was going to say. Here's some additional info. In the earlier video from the truck series garages, that's a different garage area. Map of the speedway https://www.talladegasuperspeedway.com/Plan-Your-Visit/~/media/16DE19C2B294465B9A2745F99F125887.ashx The Gander Trucks use a different garage area than NASCAR. Both garage areas use/used the same rope pull for the doors. You can also see, between the video and the pictures, the doors on the NASCAR garages are wider. So I don't know why someone with NASCAR, or any of the other teams, said "Hey! we all have nooses in our garages." It seems like a weird incident where the explanation makes it sound more like a cover up. "Noose? Nah, it was just the rope they use to close the garage doors...." Did no one in Nascar look at what happened before it went public and the FBI was brought in? Wouldn't the investigation take like 2 minutes if this were true? Not a couple days? I would have figured when someone spoke up about this someone else in Nascar would have said "guys, that's the garage door pull rope, it's like that in every bay". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Not to prolong this but one has to ask. If the "noose" was hanging from the garage door, why did it look suspicious to ANYONE? Wouldn't other garages (at least some) have similar pulls? One would expect something was odd/different about this one. Maybe few garages use them anymore and the person who discovered it was a newbie and unfamiliar with what it was? I'm just trying to search for a legitimate explanation that doesn't dissolve into conspiracy theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Dean said: Wouldn't other garages (at least some) have similar pulls? They did. The video posted earlier showed a door pull from the Truck garages that had the same rope pulls. And the pictures from 2019 of the NASCAR garages showed the same pulls. Why someone did not speak up and say something, who knows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Remember when June found Wally's noose. No need for an FBI investigation: And... Actually, a hangman's noise is simple and quick. Just a slip knot with 13 wraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, The Dean said: Not to prolong this but one has to ask. If the "noose" was hanging from the garage door, why did it look suspicious to ANYONE? Wouldn't other garages (at least some) have similar pulls? One would expect something was odd/different about this one. Maybe few garages use them anymore and the person who discovered it was a newbie and unfamiliar with what it was? I'm just trying to search for a legitimate explanation that doesn't dissolve into conspiracy theory. Give it a rest. No one is at fault here. Move on to Russia, Ulysses Grant, Teddy Roosevelt or some other punching bag. Let the friggin drivers race and stop being Geraldo Rivera of 2020 because this vault is, likewise, empty. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Give it a rest. No one is at fault here. Move on to Russia, Ulysses Grant, Teddy Roosevelt or some other punching bag. Let the friggin drivers race and stop being Geraldo Rivera of 2020 because this vault is, likewise, empty. I have absolutely zero idea what the hell you are talking about. Do you? 35 minutes ago, Just Jack said: They did. The video posted earlier showed a door pull from the Truck garages that had the same rope pulls. And the pictures from 2019 of the NASCAR garages showed the same pulls. Why someone did not speak up and say something, who knows. Yes, so my question is, what made this so odd? i'm not pushing any theory or agenda. Just seems bizarre. Maybe the noose came loose and was lying on a bench or something? Just looking for some reasonable explanation as to why all this went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dean said: I have absolutely zero idea what the hell you are talking about. Do you? Pretty simple. Go to Google and search “garage door opener rope handle” and see how Walmart, Lowe’s and 10 other retail outlets all advertise “ropes” to open a garage door. The point is, you are prolonging a very troubling news story that was an honest mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 4 hours ago, WotAGuy said: It took the FB friggin I to figure this out? 15 agents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Brown Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Rob's House said: NASCAR will now require only electronic garage door openers. This is such a weird story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: NASCAR will now require only electronic garage door openers. This is such a weird story. Yeah... But GDOs have a manual override. You guessed it, a pull rope. /smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 So Bubba is doubling down on it now, and contradicting NASCAR at the same time. We ready to blame him at all yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 it's not a good look....this thing is just really getting weirder and weirder Just now, LeviF91 said: So Bubba is doubling down on it now, and contradicting NASCAR at the same time. We ready to blame him at all yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yeah... But GDOs have a manual override. You guessed it, a pull rope. /smh My pull rope has a red plastic handle on it. I must have paid extra. I don't remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 12:17 AM, B-Man said: You called it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, LeviF91 said: So Bubba is doubling down on it now, and contradicting NASCAR at the same time. We ready to blame him at all yet? He wants to be Colin Kaepernick. There’s money in the victimhood cottage industry. Again, I’ll keep on saying it: We‘ve reached a point where we’ve miseducated an entire generation of people to believe victimhood is social currency; while at the same time social progress has nearly eliminated racism. The result is that now racism must be manufactured to meet demand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Gugny said: My pull rope has a red plastic handle on it. I must have paid extra. I don't remember. It's all about consistent branding... Good ol' fashioned rope with a knot is the NASCAR style! Yeeeeehaaww!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It's all about consistent branding... Good ol' fashioned rope with a knot is the NASCAR style! Yeeeeehaaww!! I reckon. We should just move on and forget about this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 hours ago, LeviF91 said: So Bubba is doubling down on it now, and contradicting NASCAR at the same time. We ready to blame him at all yet? link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/24/us/bubba-wallace-response-fbi-hate-crime-investigation/index.html That is "doubling down"? You and @LeviF91 should check out #BubbaSmollett which is trending on Twitter and you'll see what he is responding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Just now, Jauronimo said: That is "doubling down"? You and @LeviF91 should check out #BubbaSmollett which is trending on Twitter and you'll see what he is responding to. He said it wasn't a garage pull. The FBI said it was. NASCAR said it was. So yeah, doubling down. Better watch how I tie my racist knots from now on. Can someone tell me if there is a racial history behind a perfection loop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: He said it wasn't a garage pull. The FBI said it was. NASCAR said it was. So yeah, doubling down. You could attach a rubber chicken to the garage and call it a garage pull. Some might still call it a rubber chicken. Especially when its the only time you've ever seen a rubber chicken used as a garage pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 11 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Pretty simple. Go to Google and search “garage door opener rope handle” and see how Walmart, Lowe’s and 10 other retail outlets all advertise “ropes” to open a garage door. The point is, you are prolonging a very troubling news story that was an honest mistake. You seem to be very confused about what I am asking. I'm NOT asking what it looks like. Every one of your responses to me completely misses the point. My question remains, why was this ONE handle marked as suspicious if it was so common. Maybe it wasn't where it usually was (like hanging from the garage door) or differed in some other, suspicious way. BTW, there is this: https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29357584/bubba-wallace-nascar-investigating-hate-crime-know-know-fbi-findings It is still being investigated by NASCAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Bubba Smollett. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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