78thealltimegreat Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 A guy who writes articles on fansided states the Bills should trade for Dak as he is a significant upgrade over Josh and would push the Bills to the next level and he says the Bills can throw in a few draft picks as well...I often wonder did they watch the Thanksgiving game I think the Cowboys would drive Dak to he airport for that deal 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 No 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Nope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 At this point, nobody knows which one will be the better long-term QB, but one is still on a rookie contract and the other wants to be among the highest paid QBs in the league. Why would any sane person trade the former for the latter? 15 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, WhoTom said: At this point, nobody knows which one will be the better long-term QB, but one is still on a rookie contract and the other wants to be among the highest paid QBs in the league. Why would any sane person trade the former for the latter? I can think of about 5 posters who will come screaming in to tell you 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: A guy who writes articles on fansided states the Bills should trade for Dak as he is a significant upgrade over Josh and would push the Bills to the next level and he says the Bills can throw in a few draft picks as well...I often wonder did they watch the Thanksgiving game I think the Cowboys would drive Dak to he airport for that deal Dak is significantly more proven than Allen. He's a good QB. But trading for him doesn't make sense because then WE would have to give him the monster deal he is looking for. And Dak doesn't have upside. He's consistently pretty good, but he doesn't have that next level ability. I mean, the Cowboys are loaded with talent on offense, including a really good oline, and they still haven't made a playoff run. Allen is fairly unproven and has his areas he needs to improve upon, but I think he does have a high upside and tons of natural ability. Edited May 30, 2020 by MJS 10 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, GoBills808 said: I can think of about 5 posters who will come screaming in to tell you That's why I included the "sane" qualifier. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, MJS said: Dak is significantly more proven than Allen. He's a good QB. But trading for him doesn't make sense because then WE would have to give him the monster deal he is looking for. And Dak doesn't have upside. He's consistently pretty good, but he doesn't have that next level ability. I mean, the Cowboys are loaded with talent on offense, including a really good oline, and they still haven't made a playoff run. Allen is fairly unproven and has his areas he needs to improve upon, but I think he does have a high upside and tons of natural ability. Not just offense. They're very good on defense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 HARD pass 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I guess they didn't show the Thanksgiving Day game where he was at. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, MJS said: Dak is significantly more proven than Allen. He's a good QB. But trading for him doesn't make sense because then WE would have to give him the monster deal he is looking for. And Dak doesn't have upside. He's consistently pretty good, but he doesn't have that next level ability. I mean, the Cowboys are loaded with talent on offense, including a really good oline, and they still haven't made a playoff run. Allen is fairly unproven and has his areas he needs to improve upon, but I think he does have a high upside and tons of natural ability. Take this well-reasoned crap and get outta here! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I can think of about 5 posters who will come screaming in to tell you I don’t mind being tagged lol. Is the question, “who is the better player today?” The answer is unequivocally Dak. Josh’s story hasn’t been written yet and I’m on record as believing that he will be a star. I wouldn’t make that trade but anyone that thinks, on May 30, 2020 that Josh Allen is a better QB than Dak Prescott is INSANE. Please, please, please people don’t point to the one time that you watched Dak last year either. You need to look at the entire sample size. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Prescott hasn't pushed the Cowboys to the next level. Won't do it in Buffalo. Let them pay for his past peak career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t mind being tagged lol. Is the question, “who is the better player today?” The answer is unequivocally Dak. Josh’s story hasn’t been written yet and I’m on record as believing that he will be a star. I wouldn’t make that trade but anyone that thinks, on May 30, 2020 that Josh Allen is a better QB than Dak Prescott is INSANE. Please, please, please people don’t point to the one time that you watched Dak last year either. You need to look at the entire sample size. Yes, we can't forget how last year Dak led the Cowboys into to the playoffs while the Bills....oh wait, uh, never mind. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mickey said: Yes, we can't forget how last year Dak led the Cowboys into to the playoffs while the Bills....oh wait, uh, never mind. Oh man, here we go... Edited May 30, 2020 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t mind being tagged lol. Is the question, “who is the better player today?” The answer is unequivocally Dak. Josh’s story hasn’t been written yet and I’m on record as believing that he will be a star. I wouldn’t make that trade but anyone that thinks, on May 30, 2020 that Josh Allen is a better QB than Dak Prescott is INSANE. Please, please, please people don’t point to the one time that you watched Dak last year either. You need to look at the entire sample size. The question is whether you’d trade the two, not who is better today. Edited May 30, 2020 by GoBills808 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: The question is whether you’d trade the two, or who is better today. When you factor in contract and everything else there probably aren’t 5 QBs in the league that I’d trade Josh for. Watson, Mahomes, Lamar, Murray and maybe Russell Wilson (although he’d almost age out). Edited May 30, 2020 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: When you factor in contract and everything else there probably aren’t 5 QBs in the league that I’d trade Josh for. Watson, Mahomes, Lamar, Murray and maybe Russell Wilson (although he’d almost age out). I would literally only do it for mahomes 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 If hypothetically they were both on the same or similar contract you could make a decent argument Dak would be the better player short term option and lower floor player long term for the Bill's. However Josh plus about 75 or so million in cap space over the next 3 seasons is a better deal than Dak. First off yes Josh could easily regress and be a not so hot property after 2020. You are taking on a lot of risk with Josh and Dak has shown to be a mid level or better QB over the past 4 seasons. BUT Josh is a player with a higher ceiling. Dak in my opinion will be a good QB but never an elite one and seems to want that elite money. Josh also comes with about 70 million in cap space compared to Dak over the remainder of his rookie deal. Dak with a team making cuts to the quality of the roster around him might not be better than Josh with an exceptional roster around him even if Josh is only an above average QB. This is just nonsense the Bill's fortunes are going to ride it die with Josh long term. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Dude why 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) Jerry Jones/Mike McCarthy won't trade for Josh Allen. Moot thread. Edited May 30, 2020 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: Jerry Jones/Mike McCarthy won't trade for Josh Allen. Mute thread. Terry Pegula/McBeane won't trade for Prescott. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 If I could trade Allen for Dak I'd do that in 5 seconds and not look back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Jerry Jones/Mike McCarthy won't trade for Josh Allen. Mute thread. Yeah they would 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Dak's trade value is precisely zero. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 45 minutes ago, MJS said: Dak is significantly more proven than Allen. He's a good QB. But trading for him doesn't make sense because then WE would have to give him the monster deal he is looking for. And Dak doesn't have upside. He's consistently pretty good, but he doesn't have that next level ability. I mean, the Cowboys are loaded with talent on offense, including a really good oline, and they still haven't made a playoff run. Allen is fairly unproven and has his areas he needs to improve upon, but I think he does have a high upside and tons of natural ability. What does this mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Jerry Jones/Mike McCarthy won't trade for Josh Allen. Moot thread. Beane and McD wouldn’t trade Josh for Dak. Moot thread 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 59 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: A guy who writes articles on fansided states the Bills should trade for Dak as he is a significant upgrade over Josh and would push the Bills to the next level and he says the Bills can throw in a few draft picks as well...I often wonder did they watch the Thanksgiving game I think the Cowboys would drive Dak to he airport for that deal The one thing I know about NFL GM's is they definitely compare QB's career trajectories after one head to head game. 23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: When you factor in contract and everything else there probably aren’t 5 QBs in the league that I’d trade Josh for. Watson, Mahomes, Lamar, Murray and maybe Russell Wilson (although he’d almost age out). I agree with your list, except I don't consider WIlson a maybe, but instead a definite. He's not that old, and he's probably the second best QB in football, IMO. If you'd expand the argument to "who would you trade Josh for to make a 1 year run" the list is a lot longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: What does this mean? Dak has been there since 2016 (four seasons) and they have missed the playoffs twice and won only a single playoff game (wild card round), despite all the talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I would literally only do it for mahomes Outrageous take. Just now, MJS said: Dak has been there since 2016 (four seasons) and they have missed the playoffs twice and won only a single playoff game (wild card round), despite all the talent. Do i have to break out the pre-Dak and post-Dak Jason Garrett stats again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Bbbbuuuurrrrrpppp! No! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: Outrageous take. Do i have to break out the pre-Dak and post-Dak Jason Garrett stats again? Yes let’s pay an average starter top$$ plus picks instead of a promising 3rd year guy on rookie scale. Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I was scared because I thought this was real. Thank goodness it’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said: A guy who writes articles on fansided states the Bills should trade for Dak as he is a significant upgrade over Josh and would push the Bills to the next level and he says the Bills can throw in a few draft picks as well...I often wonder did they watch the Thanksgiving game I think the Cowboys would drive Dak to he airport for that deal He is 100% correct. Dak's passing efficiency was nearly 15 points higher than Josh's last year. That's not the only measure of a QB and Josh is a better scrambler, but Dak would greatly improve our chances of a deep playoff run. The numbers don't lie. That said, Beane won't trade Allen any time soon because he drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Yes let’s pay an average starter top$$ plus picks instead of a promising 3rd year guy on rookie scale. Genius Saying you’d only trade Allen today for Mahomes and no other QB is out of this world. Sorry dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, FireChans said: Saying you’d only trade Allen today for Mahomes and no other QB is out of this world. Sorry dude. Do you understand the concept of a trade? It’s not just swapping players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 We'll see where Josh is this year, now that he has receivers and RBs approaching what Dak has had. The OL was better for Dak and he played in a dome so that's still not exactly fair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, GoBills808 said: Do you understand the concept of a trade? It’s not just swapping players I sure do. If you wouldn't trade Allen for Watson because of one extra year of cost control, you're in outer space. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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