Jetnation sure does not lack any confidence

[Golden Goat]

3 hours ago, MassHog said:

The funniest thing about this is that they are saying they are a better team. Look at the jets roster and tell me which positions the Jets have better players than the bills. Maybe only Adams. 

 

I think Le'Veon has the edge if the Jets have any semblance of an O-line this year. Dont get me wrong, though, I love Singletary.

[MassHog]

10 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

 

I think Le'Veon has the edge if the Jets have any semblance of an O-line this year. Dont get me wrong, though, I love Singletary.

I would say that Adams and Bell are their 2 players better than our players at the same position. Although Adams is better than Hyde and Poyer, but the combination Hyde and Poyer are better than Adams and Maye duo. It is crazy, I would not take any of their other positions over ours. Also.... Allen>Darnold

[Rampage]

23 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

 

I think Le'Veon has the edge if the Jets have any semblance of an O-line this year. Dont get me wrong, though, I love Singletary.

Le’veon is horrible and is only there for the paycheque. What a calamitous contract that was. He’ll be out of the league after his next one year deal.

[Stank_Nasty]

7 hours ago, Bruce Harper said:

 

The Jets had one of the worst offensive lines in the history of the game.  They have worked on it over the off-season but we will see if it is enough.

 

I'm a happy Jets fan because I think we have the best QB in the division and we're under new management that actually knows what it is doing.  I think things are looking promising.

So darnold manages 8 freaking points week one while being spotted 4 to’s and then a whopping 13 against our 2nd and 3rd stringers and this is the dude that claims the top of the mantle in the division? Good lord. 
 

... I find it hilarious that the whole jets board conveniently forgets about that week 17 game where the WHITE HOT darnold lit up the bills backups for 13 pts. What a performance.  Can we forget about mono and mosely for a second and let that soak in? 
 

matt freaking barkley has now blown the doors off the jets once and then played their golden boy to one score while tossing to our backups. 

Edited May 9, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[TwistofFate]

11 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

Yes, but this fella is convinced Allen is a disaster, so if you factor that presupposition into his analysis, you'll see why he thinks the Jets are a formidable challenge for the Bills.

Darnold isnt too far behind...he's knocking on the bust door too.

 

The AFC East has the hardest schedules in the NFL this year, without quarterback performance we aren't going to win, they aren't going to win. 

 

In my opinion the winner of this division comes down to Buffalo or the Jets.

 

On paper of course we have the better coaching staff and the better roster.....but thats just paper. Nothing is proven and it's all speculation.  

 

Our shortcomings from last year have been addressed as well as the Jets.  I believe both teams had a really solid draft.  The only real questionable move I think the Jets made with signing Gore while already having two backs.  I would assume it's to get as much inside information about our system and personnel as possible.

 

No team in the AFC East is going to be capable of winning with the schedules we are facing without having offensive performance.

 

I feel the bills and the Jets have the most two complete rosters with the most continuity, and the team whose offense performs better, AKA which quarterback performs better, is most likely going to determine who wins the Division.

 

If the Jets have had a ***** draft and didn't go after and address the major holes they had, which historically in the past they haven't, this new GM they have seems pretty good, this wouldn't even be a question for me.

 

It's just funny to me the hypocrisy I see all the time on this board.  People say the Jets draft picks sucked and they're not proven but ours without even taking the field or somehow studs.

 

Last year too many or wide receivers with trash and couldn't get open and are the reason Allen couldn't produce but this year the addition of one wide receiver has somehow drastically changed the Outlook have our receiving Corps, who many believe are the best Trio or one of the best trios in the NFL. (i believe our wide receivers weren't the problem at all, and stated it many times) 

 

My point is right now going off of what both teams actually did last year and how both address the needs they needed to this offseason, it's going to come down to which team's offense produces more consistently and better.

 

At this point in my opinion it's a coin toss.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 9, 2020 by TwistofFate

[Dr. Who]

9 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

Darnold isnt too far behind...he's knocking on the bust door too.

 

The AFC East has the hardest schedules in the NFL this year, without quarterback performance we aren't going to win, they aren't going to win. 

 

In my opinion the winner of this division comes down to Buffalo or the Jets.

 

On paper of course we have the better coaching staff and the better roster.....but thats just paper. Nothing is proven and it's all speculation.  

 

Our shortcomings from last year have been addressed as well as the Jets.  I believe both teams had a really solid draft.  The only real questionable move I think the Jets made with signing Gore while already having two backs.  I would assume it's to get as much inside information about our system and personnel as possible.

 

No team in the AFC East is going to be capable of winning with the schedules we are facing without having offensive performance.

 

I feel the bills and the Jets have the most two complete rosters with the most continuity, and the team whose offense performs better, AKA which quarterback performs better, is most likely going to determine who wins the Division.

 

If the Jets have had a ***** draft and didn't go after and address the major holes they had, which historically in the past they haven't, this new GM they have seems pretty good, this wouldn't even be a question for me.

 

It's just funny to me the hypocrisy I see all the time on this board.  People say the Jets draft picks sucked and they're not proven but ours without even taking the field or somehow studs.

 

Last year too many or wide receivers with trash and couldn't get open and are the reason Allen couldn't produce but this year the addition of one wide receiver has somehow drastically changed the Outlook have our receiving Corps, who many believe are the best Trio or one of the best trios in the NFL. (i believe our wide receivers weren't the problem at all, and stated it many times) 

 

My point is right now going off of what both teams actually did last year and how both address the needs they needed to this offseason, it's going to come down to which team's offense produces more consistently and better.

 

At this point in my opinion it's a coin toss.

 

 

 

 

I haven't specifically been paying attention to comments on the Jets' draft, but my sense is that most folks on this board think the new Jets' GM has done a pretty good job. So I'm not sure where you're getting the belief that their draft is strongly ridiculed. And I think you mistake natural enthusiasm for new toys for arrogant certitude regarding our own draft. Both teams had good drafts, I think, but no one will know for sure, obviously, for a number of years. My own guess is that Moss is going to have the most immediate impact. I also think most on this board believe Darnold is fairly good; a few prefer him to Allen. So, if you believe both are bad (though apparently Allen is abysmal) in the end it's a wash, because many here think both are good. (I am one of those. I just think you are way off on Allen, though I am not ready to proclaim him a lock franchise qb.) My surmise on the wr corps is that folks think DIggs is a genuine #1 which allows Brown and Beasley to properly slot in as the #2 and #3. It becomes a geometric rather than an arithmetically incremental addition. The rookies have a chance to fill out the bottom of the depth chart and offer some red zone potential. Seems to me wr drops were a problem, so we differ again. You did not mention coaching. I think the Gase factor is real. Fella just isn't good at head coach and I surmise that is a real edge for Buffalo. In general, however, I think we have a stronger roster. I agree with those who believe we are and should be the favorite to take the division. I have been a fan for nearly fifty years. Dennis Shaw was the qb when I first remember watching with any degree of intelligence. Frankly, this current roster is easily one of the best we've had in twenty-five years. Of course, that's not saying much perhaps and if you think the qb is trash, the overall quality is severely downgraded given the importance of the position.

[billsbackto81]

2 hours ago, Bruce Harper said:

 

Not sure you should judge all Jets fans off of that dude.

Hey dude! The 70's called looking for their haircut. ?

[JetsFan20]

1 hour ago, TwistofFate said:

Darnold isnt too far behind...he's knocking on the bust door too.

 

The AFC East has the hardest schedules in the NFL this year, without quarterback performance we aren't going to win, they aren't going to win. 

 

In my opinion the winner of this division comes down to Buffalo or the Jets.

 

On paper of course we have the better coaching staff and the better roster.....but thats just paper. Nothing is proven and it's all speculation.  

 

Our shortcomings from last year have been addressed as well as the Jets.  I believe both teams had a really solid draft.  The only real questionable move I think the Jets made with signing Gore while already having two backs.  I would assume it's to get as much inside information about our system and personnel as possible.

 

No team in the AFC East is going to be capable of winning with the schedules we are facing without having offensive performance.

 

I feel the bills and the Jets have the most two complete rosters with the most continuity, and the team whose offense performs better, AKA which quarterback performs better, is most likely going to determine who wins the Division.

 

If the Jets have had a ***** draft and didn't go after and address the major holes they had, which historically in the past they haven't, this new GM they have seems pretty good, this wouldn't even be a question for me.

 

It's just funny to me the hypocrisy I see all the time on this board.  People say the Jets draft picks sucked and they're not proven but ours without even taking the field or somehow studs.

 

Last year too many or wide receivers with trash and couldn't get open and are the reason Allen couldn't produce but this year the addition of one wide receiver has somehow drastically changed the Outlook have our receiving Corps, who many believe are the best Trio or one of the best trios in the NFL. (i believe our wide receivers weren't the problem at all, and stated it many times) 

 

My point is right now going off of what both teams actually did last year and how both address the needs they needed to this offseason, it's going to come down to which team's offense produces more consistently and better.

 

At this point in my opinion it's a coin toss.

 

 

 

 

The Jets really like Darnold. If he has a bad year this year I think they are going to pin the blame on Gase and hire someone to try to fix him. 

[JAMIEBUF12]

I think gangreen fans also forget that in the last game the Bills basically benched the whole team.

[TwistofFate]

4 hours ago, JetsFan20 said:

The Jets really like Darnold. If he has a bad year this year I think they are going to pin the blame on Gase and hire someone to try to fix him. 

I see them not picking up his fifth year option and bringing in someone to compete for a starting job in year 4.

 

The Bills really like Allen too, but i don't see them picking up his 5th year if he doesn't take big strides this year either. 

 

Its the same story forever in this division.   For whatever reason they all suck at finding franchise guys. Its been the Achilles Heel for 20+ years and allowed the Pats to run roughshod over the entire division.

Edited May 9, 2020 by TwistofFate

[JetsFan20]

46 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

I see them not picking up his fifth year option and bringing in someone to compete for a starting job in year 4.

 

The Bills really like Allen too, but i don't see them picking up his 5th year if he doesn't take big strides this year either. 

 

Its the same story forever in this division.   For whatever reason they all suck at finding franchise guys. Its been the Achilles Heel for 20+ years and allowed the Pats to run roughshod over the entire division.

I think it’s 80-90 percent the 5th year option is picked up on Darnold/Allen. 
 

1) The 5th year option only guarantees $ for injury

2) Its still good value for a starting QB

It’s likely they are going to give these guys the full 5 years to show something like Winston and Mariota before pulling the plug. 
 

This isn’t a Trubisky situation where they are complete busts holding back a ready-made team. Did you watch the Bears last year? Trubisky was a special kind of terrible. 

[Bruce Harper]

8 hours ago, JAMIEBUF12 said:

I think gangreen fans also forget that in the last game the Bills basically benched the whole team.

 

Nobody is putting too much stock in that game.  But I'll take Sam over Josh and we now have a GM who is building a roster, unlike the last couple of guys.

[JetsFan20]

6 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

 

Nobody is putting too much stock in that game.  But I'll take Sam over Josh and we now have a GM who is building a roster, unlike the last couple of guys.

The Bills have the better roster because they have hit on more draft picks. McCagnan and Idzik had about a 10 percent hit rate. 

[Doc]

This is Josh's year to prove himself.  They've built-up the OL enough, given him all the weapons he needs, and he's in his 3rd year.

[Bruce Harper]

12 hours ago, MassHog said:

I would say that Adams and Bell are their 2 players better than our players at the same position. Although Adams is better than Hyde and Poyer, but the combination Hyde and Poyer are better than Adams and Maye duo. It is crazy, I would not take any of their other positions over ours. Also.... Allen>Darnold

 

With the Jets finally building a line I think it will become apparent this year that Darnold is the better player.  We shall see.

 

14 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said:

The Bills have the better roster because they have hit on more draft picks. McCagnan and Idzik had about a 10 percent hit rate. 

Edited May 9, 2020 by Bruce Harper

[aristocrat]

the jets have not done well getting him receiving weapons.  they better hope mims is legit cause outside of that it's bell as his leading wr.   

[Protocal69]

13 hours ago, Bruce Harper said:

 

Not sure you should judge all Jets fans off of that dude.

@Bruce Harper Go back home and tell Maxman that he is bum and coward for banning Mastenpark because him and Sar couldnt take me calling out them hypocrites of Jets fans over there. They both need to get out there feelings. Also tell 14 in Green that all that tough talk don’t make him right either. 

[Ralonzo]

16 hours ago, FLFan said:

Yeah, but there is a general obnoxiousness and immaturity associated with most of the Jets fans posts that annoys me.  

 

Nah it's the condescension. The whole "oh how we sophisticated urbanites even deign to devote a thought to those inbred double-wide dwelling toothless upstate rubes." I used to think there was nothing that could change that attitude... except maybe a plague resulting from being stacked like human cordwood toward the sky, but I'm recently disabused of the notion.

[CBennett]

Who knows they MAY be right...guess we shall see.

[JetsFan20]

I’d take Allen over Darnold Right now and I love Sam. I wanted the Jets to draft Allen back in 2018.
 

 

[Doc]

25 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said:

I’d take Allen over Darnold Right now and I love Sam. I wanted the Jets to draft Allen back in 2018.

 

Interesting.  I didn't like Darnold, but I absolutely did not want Allen.  Was pleasantly surprised/wrong. 

[DBilz2500]

38 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said:

I’d take Allen over Darnold Right now and I love Sam. I wanted the Jets to draft Allen back in 2018.
 

 

In the end I feel like both QBs will end up having good/great careers. Allen has been put in a much better situation in terms of coaching, continuity, and overall team talent. For what Danold has had to overcome he still appears to have a bright future. Allen vs Darnold is gonna end up being a great rivalry. 

[Warcodered]

3 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Nah it's the condescension. The whole "oh how we sophisticated urbanites even deign to devote a thought to those inbred double-wide dwelling toothless upstate rubes." I used to think there was nothing that could change that attitude... except maybe a plague resulting from being stacked like human cordwood toward the sky, but I'm recently disabused of the notion.

Dude WTF.

[C.Biscuit97]

A fanbase confident before the season?  Shocking!!! On paper, we have the most talented team in the division.  But it is crazy how some of you are discounting the other teams.  Would we have made the playoffs if Allen got mono and missed 3 games and Edmunds missed 14???

 

i do think the Jets did a poor job building around Darnold though.  If he had our receiving core, they would be really skill.  I think those games are going to really tough but it is better to play them early.

[ColoradoBills]

9 hours ago, JetsFan20 said:

I think it’s 80-90 percent the 5th year option is picked up on Darnold/Allen. 
 

1) The 5th year option only guarantees $ for injury

2) Its still good value for a starting QB

It’s likely they are going to give these guys the full 5 years to show something like Winston and Mariota before pulling the plug. 
 

This isn’t a Trubisky situation where they are complete busts holding back a ready-made team. Did you watch the Bears last year? Trubisky was a special kind of terrible. 

 

Fully guaranteed under the new CBA.

[HappyDays]

4 hours ago, Bruce Harper said:

With the Jets finally building a line I think it will become apparent this year that Darnold is the better player.  We shall see.

 

We won't know how good Darnold is until Gase is fired and he has legit receivers. Who's his #1 receiver this year, Perriman? Mims? That receiving corps is almost as bad as the Bills in 2018 with Kelvin Benjamin and Zay Jones as our top 2. If Darnold cleans up his dumb interceptions and gets a real offense around him he could be a top 10 QB. Unfortunately for you I think it will be at least 2 seasons before those changes happen.

[buffalo2218]

10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

A fanbase confident before the season?  Shocking!!! On paper, we have the most talented team in the division.  But it is crazy how some of you are discounting the other teams.  Would we have made the playoffs if Allen got mono and missed 3 games and Edmunds missed 14???

 

i do think the Jets did a poor job building around Darnold though.  If he had our receiving core, they would be really skill.  I think those games are going to really tough but it is better to play them early.

Valid points, except I believe the Bills had better depth at key positions. Despite the bad showing against the Patriots and other mistakes made, Allen did show improvement. No reason to think he won't show even more this season

[Doc]

14 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

A fanbase confident before the season?  Shocking!!! On paper, we have the most talented team in the division.  But it is crazy how some of you are discounting the other teams.  Would we have made the playoffs if Allen got mono and missed 3 games and Edmunds missed 14???

 

Would the Cheaters have made the playoffs if Brady missed 3 games and Hightower missed 14?  Do you think the Jets make the playoffs if Darnold played in those 3 games and Mosley played the entire season? 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

Would the Cheaters have made the playoffs if Brady missed 3 games and Hightower missed 14?  Do you think the Jets make the playoffs if Darnold played in those 3 games and Mosley played the entire season? 

Hoyer is better than the scrubs the Jets had.  I think they were down to their 3rd stringer.  But no I don’t think the Jets would have made the playoffs. But Darnold definitely played better down the stretch and so did that team.  
 

and the Bills game completely flipped when Mosley went out.  

[Logic]

I like Darnold a lot. I also like Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye and Ashtyn Davis. Denzel Mims might be really good. Beyond that? Meh.

To be successful in football, you need to be able to protect your quarterback, and you need to be able to negatively affect the other team's quarterback. I'm not convinced that the Jets' offensive line will be good. They added bodies there, sure, but not very impressive ones. Becton may be good, but the free agents? Blech. Are they expecting George Fant, for instance, to be a starting tackle? Yikes. And as far as affecting the other team's quarterback? They still have no legitimate edge rushers and an absolutely awful cornerback room.

Combine their lack of protection for their quarterback and lack of ability to affect the OTHER team's quarterback with the fact that their head coach and defensive coordinators are giant pricks and they have foolish, giant contracts being paid to a running back and a still-injured off-ball linebacker and you have the recipe for a 7-9 football team at best.

And honestly, it's all a shame, because again...I like Darnold. I think the Jets are doing him a giant disservice so far with the poor protection and lackluster weapons and never-was head coach. Oh well. 

I expect a much brighter future for the Dolphins than the Jets. In my mind, the Jets are your 4th place finishers in the AFC East this year, leading to the firing of Gase, and then the hiring of a new coach who will want to bring in all of his own guys, perpetuating the constant rebuilding cycle that we Bills fans are familiar with and wasting more years of Darnold's career.

Edited May 9, 2020 by Logic

[buffalo2218]

7 minutes ago, Logic said:

I like Darnold a lot. I also like Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye and Ashtyn Davis. Denzel Mims might be really good. Beyond that? Meh.

To be successful in football, you need to be able to protect your quarterback, and you need to be able to negatively affect the other team's quarterback. I'm not convinced that the Jets' offensive line will be good. They added bodies there, sure, but not very impressive ones. Becton may be good, but the free agents? Blech. Are they expecting George Fant, for instance, to be a starting tackle? Yikes. And as far as affecting the other team's quarterback? They still have no legitimate edge rushers and an absolutely awful cornerback room.

Combine their lack of protection for their quarterback and lack of ability to affect the OTHER team's quarterback with the fact that their head coach and defensive coordinators are giant pricks and they have foolish, giant contracts being paid to a running back and a still-injured off-ball linebacker and you have the recipe for a 7-9 football team at best.

And honestly, it's all a shame, because again...I like Darnold. I think the Jets are doing him a giant disservice so far with the poor protection and lackluster weapons and never-was head coach. Oh well. 

This I can agree with. Don't really have anything against Darnold in terms of how he is as a person. But having that poster child for Arkham Asylum for a HC is really stunting his growth

[purple haze]

20 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Hoyer is better than the scrubs the Jets had.  I think they were down to their 3rd stringer.  But no I don’t think the Jets would have made the playoffs. But Darnold definitely played better down the stretch and so did that team.  
 

and the Bills game completely flipped when Mosley went out.  

Not really.  The Bills were moving the rock well when Mosely was in the game.  The Bills were sloppy with the rock.  Mosely made plays, I'm not denying that, but I think his presence or lack of presence is overblown.  The game flipped when the Bills - as they had in the first half - sustained drives, but as they did not do in the first half, stopped giving the ball away.

[C.Biscuit97]

2 minutes ago, purple haze said:

Not really.  The Bills were moving the rock well when Mosely was in the game.  The Bills were sloppy with the rock.  Mosely made plays, I'm not denying that, but I think his presence or lack of presence is overblown.  The game flipped when the Bills - as they had in the first half - sustained drives, but as they did not do in the first half, stopped giving the ball away.

We were scoreless before he went out and didn’t score until 3 minutes were left in the 3rd.  He also had a pick 6.  He was the best player on the field before he left.  It was an enormous loss.  It would be like losing Tre in the Steelers game. 

[Doc]

15 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Hoyer is better than the scrubs the Jets had.  I think they were down to their 3rd stringer.  But no I don’t think the Jets would have made the playoffs. But Darnold definitely played better down the stretch and so did that team.  
 

and the Bills game completely flipped when Mosley went out.  

 

Hoyer wasn't with the Cheaters last year.  And the Bills were marching up and down the field on the Jets, only being stopped by some of the flukiest turnovers I've seen.  Even still, had the Bills dropped that game, they would have won the season-ender if they played their starters.  BTWE Darnold missed 3 of the harder games (well 2 at least, against the Cheaters and Eagles while the Browns game debatable) that they likely would have lost anyway.

[Logic]

3 minutes ago, purple haze said:

Not really.  The Bills were moving the rock well when Mosely was in the game.  The Bills were sloppy with the rock.  Mosely made plays, I'm not denying that, but I think his presence or lack of presence is overblown.  The game flipped when the Bills - as they had in the first half - sustained drives, but as they did not do in the first half, stopped giving the ball away.

Yeah.

The whole "the Bills weren't doing squat on offense until Mosley went down" is super overblown. In reality, the Bills moved the ball with ease that game and kept making stupid mistakes. It was actually really aggravating to watch. Not because the Jets defense was stifling our offense, but because we kept shooting ourselves in the foot. 

Besides, when a team turns the ball over to you FOUR TIMES and your defense scores as well, you shouldn't lose the ball game. The Jets have only themselves to blame for losing that game...though I guess this is where the "Darnold had mono" excuse comes in, even though he was just as bad in the last game of the season against our second and third stringers.

[Stank_Nasty]

54 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

A fanbase confident before the season?  Shocking!!! On paper, we have the most talented team in the division.  But it is crazy how some of you are discounting the other teams.  Would we have made the playoffs if Allen got mono and missed 3 games and Edmunds missed 14???

 

i do think the Jets did a poor job building around Darnold though.  If he had our receiving core, they would be really skill.  I think those games are going to really tough but it is better to play them early.

that jets team became the first to ever lose to 2 different teams that were 0-7 or worse(MIA,CIN) with Sam darnold at the helm. Sorry mono can’t cover that one up. 

 

i also saw our offense spot him 4 to’s and he managed 8 pts week one. Then of course there’s his whopping 13 he put up against the backups in the finale. 

Edited May 9, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[Johnnycage46]

54 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

A fanbase confident before the season?  Shocking!!! On paper, we have the most talented team in the division.  But it is crazy how some of you are discounting the other teams.  Would we have made the playoffs if Allen got mono and missed 3 games and Edmunds missed 14???

 

i do think the Jets did a poor job building around Darnold though.  If he had our receiving core, they would be really skill.  I think those games are going to really tough but it is better to play them early.

Are you literally incapable of being optimistic?  Constant negativity.

[Stank_Nasty]

1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said:

Are you literally incapable of being optimistic?  Constant negativity.

Funny you mention this. I just told him the other day that his need to constantly downplay last years 10 wins at every turn is honestly just weird. Literally going out of his way to make sure we all know how easy and flukey the schedule was. We all really need to understand that! 

7 minutes ago, Logic said:

Yeah.

The whole "the Bills weren't doing squat on offense until Mosley went down" is super overblown. In reality, the Bills moved the ball with ease that game and kept making stupid mistakes. It was actually really aggravating to watch. Not because the Jets defense was stifling our offense, but because we kept shooting ourselves in the foot. 

Besides, when a team turns the ball over to you FOUR TIMES and your defense scores as well, you shouldn't lose the ball game. The Jets have only themselves to blame for losing that game...though I guess this is where the "Darnold had mono" excuse comes in, even though he was just as bad in the last game of the season against our second and third stringers.

This 100%. they were moving the ball just fine. Flukey tipped passes and awkward fumbles. 

[Johnnycage46]

2 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Funny you mention this. I just told him the other day that his need to constantly downplay last years 10 wins at every turn is honestly just weird. Literally going out of his way to make sure we all know how easy and flukey the schedule was. We all really need to understand that! 

Right?  It's almost as if some people are angry we won games with an easy schedule...should we instead have lost them?  Would love to hear the usual offenders' comments then.  Damned if ya do, damned if ya dont!

[C.Biscuit97]

14 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Hoyer wasn't with the Cheaters last year.  And the Bills were marching up and down the field on the Jets, only being stopped by some of the flukiest turnovers I've seen.  Even still, had the Bills dropped that game, they would have won the season-ender if they played their starters.  BTWE Darnold missed 3 of the harder games (well 2 at least, against the Cheaters and Eagles while the Browns game debatable) that they likely would have lost anyway.

You realize a lot of this board was trashing Jackson because of his playoff game when the Ravens were moving the ball up and down the field all game and then had freaky things happen, right?   People dismiss his 500 yards because they didn’t score? So which is it? Also, if we were winning a game 16-0 and Edmunds was the best player in the field and we found out Allen had mono, what would this board being saying if the Jets won?

 

and I don’t even know what we’re arguing about. I  said the Jets probably won’t have made the playoffs.  But then again, they beat the Cowboys and no one had them winning that game.  I’m going out on a limb here but losing your qb for 3 games and your star MLB for 14 games isn’t good.

 

and you were right on Hoyer.  I’d still take my chances with Stidham over those Jets scrubs.  More a reflection of the Jets backups than Stidham.

Edited May 9, 2020 by C.Biscuit97