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So has Gregg Brandon done anything to warrant a firing?  If not why would they fire him.  Also would it not be prudent to use an outside counsel to investigate a Family member of your inside counsel for if nothing more than Transparency and Perception issues.

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2 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

 

The bigger question is, has he done anything to warrant getting the job in the first place?

Considering how Russ Brandon ran this franchise, you think his brother was given the job on merit alone?

How about he is a Freaking Attorney that has his own credentials and apparently those credentials have kept him here through an ownership change.  So again two challnges.

 

1.  What has he done to warrant a firing (besides be someones family member)

2.  In 2018 (article you posted) where is there any indication Gregg Brandon was in hot water

 

 

Sorry you seem to have a H.O. for the Brandon Family Name

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9 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

When that family member is making the hiring decisions for an organization, I don't think it should be overlooked that the hiring decisions he made (i.e. his brother) might not be what's best for the organization. 


We get it, you don’t like or trust him simply because of who he’s related to and despite not knowing the kind of work he’s done for the Pegulas, you’re just going to assume he shouldn’t have his current job because....reasons.

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Interesting find in this boring offseason, but I dont think it warrants any controversy or worrying.

 

He is his own person, and could very well be a very good attorney.

 

And even if it is an inherited family trait, a little sleaze is ok with your lawyer, but not your President and leader of the entire operation.

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3 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

I'm not going to link this, because I don't want to make this personal ... but look at his credentials and let me know if you think he is objectively the best of the best and we couldn't find anyone better.

Seems his credentials are FINE. As he survived an ownership change and a Family member firing.

 

Don't look to far you will see Overdorf still on staff too.

 

So far you have Posted NOTHING about Gregg except he is Brandon's Brother....  Yeah that sounds plenty Personal enough

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I think it’s relatively common knowledge that he is the Bills in-house counsel. As far as keeping him, it should be entirely based on his performance and not his brother’s. So I personally see no issue.  He obviously chose to stay as well, so must not feel too uncomfortable. 

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15 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

When that family member is making the hiring decisions for an organization, I don't think it should be overlooked that the hiring decisions he made (i.e. his brother) might not be what's best for the organization. 

 

You know in North Korea when an official falls out of favor with the regime, not only is he executed but his entire family gets it as well. Maybe they're on to something.

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22 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

Remember Russ Brandon? How badly we all wanted him out of the organization...

Personally, I couldn't stand Russ. I thought he presided over year after year of bad decisions for the organization and I wanted him gone. 

He was a "marketing guru" that cared more about selling tickets than crafting a successful franchise. Thankfully, he was ultimately shown the door.

 

I might be late to the party here, but in my spare time I was curious to review the full Front Office staff of the Bills:

https://www.buffalobills.com/team/front-office-roster/

 

I was shocked to see ... right next to Brandon Beane ... Gregg Brandon, EVP & General Counsel.

I thought to myself, "this can't be the brother of Russ Brandon, right?"

 

Yup. https://buffalonews.com/2018/05/03/pegulas-used-own-attorneys-in-pittsburgh-to-investigate-brandon/

 

Despite all the Brandon Family controversy, allegations of inappropriate conduct, horrible decision making, there's still a Brandon in our Front Office.

Don't get me wrong, I love our current Front Office Staff ... I think they're doing a phenomenal job. 

I'm just wondering ... with all of the great options available to the Pegulas for executive staff, why keep this guy?

 

That's what Ralph was paying him for---and he certainly got his money's worth with Brandon in that regard.

 

"year after year of bad decision making for the organization"?  When do the Sabres fire the Pegulas?

 

And what is "the Brandon Family controversy"?

 

Huge fail thread.

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So lets see what out of this experience says he is Not a good Lawyer

 

Student Intern - University of Miami Athletic Business Department

Club Services Intern - NFL (all NFL Teams) - Reviewed sponsorship and licensing agreements for all 31 NFL Member Clubs and drafted the NFL Member Club Marketing Commitments for the 1999 NFL season.

Management Council Law Clerk - NFL

Intellectual Property Associate - Howery

Attorney Akerman Senterfitt

Vice President & General Counsel - XOS Digital

Vice President Executive Counsel - Bills

 

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20 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

 

The bigger question is, has he done anything to warrant getting the job in the first place?

Considering how Russ Brandon ran this franchise, you think his brother was given the job on merit alone?

 

I think the Pegula's think he is the right man for the job but what do they know.

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12 minutes ago, boater said:

Continuity is a big thing in the legal profession.

Yes it is, being married to a lawyer, I have seen through my wife what a lack of institutional knowledge does to an organization, that and just maybe he is really good at his job. Most lawyers are good honest people, it’s that many citizens don’t know how our nations legal system actually works, so they get pissy when they see the sausage being made. 

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18 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

I'm not going to link this, because I don't want to make this personal ... but look at his credentials and let me know if you think he is objectively the best of the best and we couldn't find anyone better.

So lets see what out of this experience says he is Not a good Lawyer

 

Student Intern - University of Miami Athletic Business Department

Club Services Intern - NFL (all NFL Teams) - Reviewed sponsorship and licensing agreements for all 31 NFL Member Clubs and drafted the NFL Member Club Marketing Commitments for the 1999 NFL season.

Management Council Law Clerk - NFL

Intellectual Property Associate - Howery

Attorney Akerman Senterfitt

Vice President & General Counsel - XOS Digital

Vice President Executive Counsel - Bills

 

 

You have not pointed at ONE SINGLE thing other than being a Brother to Russ....  Really does already sound personal.

 

 

Also it is pretty freaking Low Class to go after someone because of who they are related to.  How would you like losing your job because your Brother was a Sleezeball.  

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5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

So lets see what out of this experience says he is Not a good Lawyer

 

Student Intern - University of Miami Athletic Business Department

Club Services Intern - NFL (all NFL Teams) - Reviewed sponsorship and licensing agreements for all 31 NFL Member Clubs and drafted the NFL Member Club Marketing Commitments for the 1999 NFL season.

Management Council Law Clerk - NFL

Intellectual Property Associate - Howery

Attorney Akerman Senterfitt

Vice President & General Counsel - XOS Digital

Vice President Executive Counsel - Bills

 

 

You have not pointed at ONE SINGLE thing other than being a Brother to Russ....  Really does already sound personal.

 

 

Also it is pretty freaking Low Class to go after someone because of who they are related to.  How would you like losing your job because your Brother was a Sleezeball.  

 

It's interesting how much information you're leaving out.

Ask yourself this question. If you were objectively hiring one of the most coveted positions in a front office would you pick this guy?

 

1995-1998: A couple of intern positions with the NFL

1998-2001: Syracuse Law

2001-2006: Intellectual Property associate at mid-sized law firm

2006--2007: Attorney at mid-sized law firm in Florida

2007-2013: General counsel for tiny firm that looks at collegiate licensing

2013: BOOM: VICE PRESIDENT AND GENERAL COUNSEL OF BUFFALO BILLS - thanks Russ!

 

I also don't think it's "low class" to go after someone based on their credentials.

That's what we do on this message board all day, every day, when it comes to the players and the owners and often the front office staff of our team.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

It's interesting how much information you're leaving out.

Ask yourself this question. If you were objectively hiring one of the most coveted positions in a front office would you pick this guy?

 

1995-1998: A couple of intern positions with the NFL

1998-2001: Syracuse Law

2001-2006: Intellectual Property associate at mid-sized law firm

2006--2007: Attorney at mid-sized law firm in Florida

2007-2013: General counsel for tiny firm that looks at collegiate licensing

2013: BOOM: VICE PRESIDENT AND GENERAL COUNSEL OF BUFFALO BILLS - thanks Russ!

 

I also don't think it's "low class" to go after someone based on their credentials.

That's what we do on this message board all day, every day, when it comes to the players and the owners and often the front office staff of our team.

 

 

 

It absolutely is low class going after someone because of their Last Name.  There is NOTHING in that that says he isn't qualified or performing as the Pegulas want him to perform.  your only dig is his brother.  yeah that is PRETTY FREAKING LOW CLASS.  

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I get the idea of wanting your own people in the organization but you can't just replace everyone even if they were related to someone who left on less than stellar terms. It also isn't like this guy is involved in football operations directly. He is a staff lawyer most likely reviewing contracts and legal documents. I don't think he is going to cause much of a stir.  

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17 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

I'm not going to link this, because I don't want to make this personal ... but look at his credentials and let me know if you think he is objectively the best of the best and we couldn't find anyone better.

 

You are very naive.  Nepotism in/among NFL ownership/FO staff/coaching staffs is almost the norm rather than the exception.  The Packers are probably the only NFL franchise that doesn't have at least 1 of the owner's relatives on their payroll -- primarily because they're owned by stockholders.  It's very common for HC's to hire family members.  In fact, after Beane was hired, somebody posted a news article about how unusual it was that both McDermott and Beane didn't have "roots" -- ie, relatives -- in the NFL. 

 

Even among players, where one would think talent alone would count most, we're seeing more and more second and even third generation NFLers not to mention siblings and cousins, being drafted and finding success.  This was especially notable in the recent draft.

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42 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

I'm not going to link this, because I don't want to make this personal ... but look at his credentials and let me know if you think he is objectively the best of the best and we couldn't find anyone better.

 

Do you think Kim Pegula's credentials qualify her to run the team?

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58 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

Deleting this thread. Nepotism doesn't apparently bother folks.

 

haha even better. just delete the thread already. youve got the power.

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Do you think Kim Pegula's credentials qualify her to run the team?

 

Not sure but I'd like to conduct the "interview"

 

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1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

haha even better. just delete the thread already. youve got the power.

 

Not sure but I'd like to conduct the "interview"

 

theporncouch.jpg

 

Absolute gold.  Bravo, my man!

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8 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

I'm deleting this thread. Very surprised that folks don't see the inherent nepotism here, but oh well.

How much more attention do you need?  Just delete it already!  Let me guess, you were also offered scholarships in high school to go play football in college, but you hurt your shoulder and had to turn them down.  Bet when you tell people that story it gets you lots of attention too

 

Don't you just hate it when those pesky facts get in the way of your narrative?

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11 minutes ago, Logic said:

This is the post-draft message board content I'm here for. Yes sir.

TBD has been on fire this week. Zay is putting out STATS in Oakland, Brady left the division because he was afraid of the Bills, and now this gem.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Rigotz said:

Deleting this thread. Nepotism doesn't apparently bother folks.

I got bombarded yesterday because I have been so busy on the frontlines with this COVID crap that I did not search deep enough. I just ended up deleting it. It wasn’t worth my breath engaging with tough guys behind the keyboard.

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Here is the stupidity of this thread and the "nepotism" nonsense being spewed here.  

 

There is NO nepotism.  Beane and company have a FIRM grip on who deserves to be here from their job performance and who doesn't.  If a "Brandon" family member still works for the Bills, its because they choose to keep him based on how he is doing in his respective job.  

 

Case closed.

 

Thread dead.

 

Peace.

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4 minutes ago, FireChans said:

TBD has been on fire this week. Zay is putting out STATS in Oakland, Brady left the division because he was afraid of the Bills, and now this gem.

 

 

 

Let's not forget that we're STILL trading for AJ Green.

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Would not nepotism be where an incompetent person is hired or retained in a position due to ties to a person in an organizational hierarchy?  If anything, retention of 'this' Brandon would seem to indicate that management has deemed his performance as acceptable.

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2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Here is the stupidity of this thread and the "nepotism" nonsense being spewed here.  

 

There is NO nepotism.  Beane and company have a FIRM grip on who deserves to be here from their job performance and who doesn't.  If a "Brandon" family member still works for the Bills, its because they choose to keep him based on how he is doing in his respective job.  

 

Case closed.

 

Thread dead.

 

Peace.

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