Rigotz Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Deleting this thread. Nepotism doesn't apparently bother folks. Edited April 30, 2020 by Rigotz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 So everyone in a family should be punished for 1 family member's actions? What the hell is wrong with you? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) So has Gregg Brandon done anything to warrant a firing? If not why would they fire him. Also would it not be prudent to use an outside counsel to investigate a Family member of your inside counsel for if nothing more than Transparency and Perception issues. Edited April 30, 2020 by MAJBobby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Deleting this thread. Nepotism doesn't apparently bother folks. Edited April 30, 2020 by Rigotz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Continuity is a big thing in the legal profession. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Deleting this thread. Nepotism doesn't apparently bother folks. Edited April 30, 2020 by Rigotz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rigotz said: The bigger question is, has he done anything to warrant getting the job in the first place? Considering how Russ Brandon ran this franchise, you think his brother was given the job on merit alone? How about he is a Freaking Attorney that has his own credentials and apparently those credentials have kept him here through an ownership change. So again two challnges. 1. What has he done to warrant a firing (besides be someones family member) 2. In 2018 (article you posted) where is there any indication Gregg Brandon was in hot water Sorry you seem to have a H.O. for the Brandon Family Name Edited April 30, 2020 by MAJBobby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Deleting this thread. Nepotism doesn't apparently bother folks. Edited April 30, 2020 by Rigotz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rigotz said: When that family member is making the hiring decisions for an organization, I don't think it should be overlooked that the hiring decisions he made (i.e. his brother) might not be what's best for the organization. We get it, you don’t like or trust him simply because of who he’s related to and despite not knowing the kind of work he’s done for the Pegulas, you’re just going to assume he shouldn’t have his current job because....reasons. Edited April 30, 2020 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Interesting find in this boring offseason, but I dont think it warrants any controversy or worrying. He is his own person, and could very well be a very good attorney. And even if it is an inherited family trait, a little sleaze is ok with your lawyer, but not your President and leader of the entire operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I'm not going to link this, because I don't want to make this personal ... but look at his credentials and let me know if you think he is objectively the best of the best and we couldn't find anyone better. Seems his credentials are FINE. As he survived an ownership change and a Family member firing. Don't look to far you will see Overdorf still on staff too. So far you have Posted NOTHING about Gregg except he is Brandon's Brother.... Yeah that sounds plenty Personal enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I think it’s relatively common knowledge that he is the Bills in-house counsel. As far as keeping him, it should be entirely based on his performance and not his brother’s. So I personally see no issue. He obviously chose to stay as well, so must not feel too uncomfortable. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I'd say the only knock on him is the Double-G "Gregg". Too much like Gregg Williams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rigotz said: When that family member is making the hiring decisions for an organization, I don't think it should be overlooked that the hiring decisions he made (i.e. his brother) might not be what's best for the organization. You know in North Korea when an official falls out of favor with the regime, not only is he executed but his entire family gets it as well. Maybe they're on to something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Remember Russ Brandon? I don't remember Russ Brandon, and I don't think he was mentioned on any Bills-related message board. Edited April 30, 2020 by Groin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Remember Russ Brandon? How badly we all wanted him out of the organization... Personally, I couldn't stand Russ. I thought he presided over year after year of bad decisions for the organization and I wanted him gone. He was a "marketing guru" that cared more about selling tickets than crafting a successful franchise. Thankfully, he was ultimately shown the door. I might be late to the party here, but in my spare time I was curious to review the full Front Office staff of the Bills: https://www.buffalobills.com/team/front-office-roster/ I was shocked to see ... right next to Brandon Beane ... Gregg Brandon, EVP & General Counsel. I thought to myself, "this can't be the brother of Russ Brandon, right?" Yup. https://buffalonews.com/2018/05/03/pegulas-used-own-attorneys-in-pittsburgh-to-investigate-brandon/ Despite all the Brandon Family controversy, allegations of inappropriate conduct, horrible decision making, there's still a Brandon in our Front Office. Don't get me wrong, I love our current Front Office Staff ... I think they're doing a phenomenal job. I'm just wondering ... with all of the great options available to the Pegulas for executive staff, why keep this guy? That's what Ralph was paying him for---and he certainly got his money's worth with Brandon in that regard. "year after year of bad decision making for the organization"? When do the Sabres fire the Pegulas? And what is "the Brandon Family controversy"? Huge fail thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 So lets see what out of this experience says he is Not a good Lawyer Student Intern - University of Miami Athletic Business Department Club Services Intern - NFL (all NFL Teams) - Reviewed sponsorship and licensing agreements for all 31 NFL Member Clubs and drafted the NFL Member Club Marketing Commitments for the 1999 NFL season. Management Council Law Clerk - NFL Intellectual Property Associate - Howery Attorney Akerman Senterfitt Vice President & General Counsel - XOS Digital Vice President Executive Counsel - Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Rigotz said: The bigger question is, has he done anything to warrant getting the job in the first place? Considering how Russ Brandon ran this franchise, you think his brother was given the job on merit alone? I think the Pegula's think he is the right man for the job but what do they know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, boater said: Continuity is a big thing in the legal profession. Yes it is, being married to a lawyer, I have seen through my wife what a lack of institutional knowledge does to an organization, that and just maybe he is really good at his job. Most lawyers are good honest people, it’s that many citizens don’t know how our nations legal system actually works, so they get pissy when they see the sausage being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I'm not going to link this, because I don't want to make this personal ... but look at his credentials and let me know if you think he is objectively the best of the best and we couldn't find anyone better. So lets see what out of this experience says he is Not a good Lawyer Student Intern - University of Miami Athletic Business Department Club Services Intern - NFL (all NFL Teams) - Reviewed sponsorship and licensing agreements for all 31 NFL Member Clubs and drafted the NFL Member Club Marketing Commitments for the 1999 NFL season. Management Council Law Clerk - NFL Intellectual Property Associate - Howery Attorney Akerman Senterfitt Vice President & General Counsel - XOS Digital Vice President Executive Counsel - Bills You have not pointed at ONE SINGLE thing other than being a Brother to Russ.... Really does already sound personal. Also it is pretty freaking Low Class to go after someone because of who they are related to. How would you like losing your job because your Brother was a Sleezeball. Edited April 30, 2020 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So lets see what out of this experience says he is Not a good Lawyer Student Intern - University of Miami Athletic Business Department Club Services Intern - NFL (all NFL Teams) - Reviewed sponsorship and licensing agreements for all 31 NFL Member Clubs and drafted the NFL Member Club Marketing Commitments for the 1999 NFL season. Management Council Law Clerk - NFL Intellectual Property Associate - Howery Attorney Akerman Senterfitt Vice President & General Counsel - XOS Digital Vice President Executive Counsel - Bills You have not pointed at ONE SINGLE thing other than being a Brother to Russ.... Really does already sound personal. Also it is pretty freaking Low Class to go after someone because of who they are related to. How would you like losing your job because your Brother was a Sleezeball. It's interesting how much information you're leaving out. Ask yourself this question. If you were objectively hiring one of the most coveted positions in a front office would you pick this guy? 1995-1998: A couple of intern positions with the NFL 1998-2001: Syracuse Law 2001-2006: Intellectual Property associate at mid-sized law firm 2006--2007: Attorney at mid-sized law firm in Florida 2007-2013: General counsel for tiny firm that looks at collegiate licensing 2013: BOOM: VICE PRESIDENT AND GENERAL COUNSEL OF BUFFALO BILLS - thanks Russ! I also don't think it's "low class" to go after someone based on their credentials. That's what we do on this message board all day, every day, when it comes to the players and the owners and often the front office staff of our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rigotz said: It's interesting how much information you're leaving out. Ask yourself this question. If you were objectively hiring one of the most coveted positions in a front office would you pick this guy? 1995-1998: A couple of intern positions with the NFL 1998-2001: Syracuse Law 2001-2006: Intellectual Property associate at mid-sized law firm 2006--2007: Attorney at mid-sized law firm in Florida 2007-2013: General counsel for tiny firm that looks at collegiate licensing 2013: BOOM: VICE PRESIDENT AND GENERAL COUNSEL OF BUFFALO BILLS - thanks Russ! I also don't think it's "low class" to go after someone based on their credentials. That's what we do on this message board all day, every day, when it comes to the players and the owners and often the front office staff of our team. It absolutely is low class going after someone because of their Last Name. There is NOTHING in that that says he isn't qualified or performing as the Pegulas want him to perform. your only dig is his brother. yeah that is PRETTY FREAKING LOW CLASS. Edited April 30, 2020 by MAJBobby 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, Mickey said: I think the Pegula's think he is the right man for the job but what do they know. Ask a lot of the class envious people around here, and they'd tell you not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I get the idea of wanting your own people in the organization but you can't just replace everyone even if they were related to someone who left on less than stellar terms. It also isn't like this guy is involved in football operations directly. He is a staff lawyer most likely reviewing contracts and legal documents. I don't think he is going to cause much of a stir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-GunJoshAllen17 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 What a world it would be if people could be fired for having an ahole brother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 I'm deleting this thread. Very surprised that folks don't see the inherent nepotism here, but oh well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I'm not going to link this, because I don't want to make this personal ... but look at his credentials and let me know if you think he is objectively the best of the best and we couldn't find anyone better. You are very naive. Nepotism in/among NFL ownership/FO staff/coaching staffs is almost the norm rather than the exception. The Packers are probably the only NFL franchise that doesn't have at least 1 of the owner's relatives on their payroll -- primarily because they're owned by stockholders. It's very common for HC's to hire family members. In fact, after Beane was hired, somebody posted a news article about how unusual it was that both McDermott and Beane didn't have "roots" -- ie, relatives -- in the NFL. Even among players, where one would think talent alone would count most, we're seeing more and more second and even third generation NFLers not to mention siblings and cousins, being drafted and finding success. This was especially notable in the recent draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 This is the post-draft message board content I'm here for. Yes sir. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I'm not going to link this, because I don't want to make this personal ... but look at his credentials and let me know if you think he is objectively the best of the best and we couldn't find anyone better. Do you think Kim Pegula's credentials qualify her to run the team? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Deleting this thread. Nepotism doesn't apparently bother folks. haha even better. just delete the thread already. youve got the power. Just now, Gugny said: Do you think Kim Pegula's credentials qualify her to run the team? Not sure but I'd like to conduct the "interview" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: haha even better. just delete the thread already. youve got the power. Not sure but I'd like to conduct the "interview" Absolute gold. Bravo, my man! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I'm deleting this thread. Very surprised that folks don't see the inherent nepotism here, but oh well. How much more attention do you need? Just delete it already! Let me guess, you were also offered scholarships in high school to go play football in college, but you hurt your shoulder and had to turn them down. Bet when you tell people that story it gets you lots of attention too Don't you just hate it when those pesky facts get in the way of your narrative? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Logic said: This is the post-draft message board content I'm here for. Yes sir. TBD has been on fire this week. Zay is putting out STATS in Oakland, Brady left the division because he was afraid of the Bills, and now this gem. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: Deleting this thread. Nepotism doesn't apparently bother folks. If you are asking for help go to the OP Click Admin something or other and DELETE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: Deleting this thread. Nepotism doesn't apparently bother folks. I got bombarded yesterday because I have been so busy on the frontlines with this COVID crap that I did not search deep enough. I just ended up deleting it. It wasn’t worth my breath engaging with tough guys behind the keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Here is the stupidity of this thread and the "nepotism" nonsense being spewed here. There is NO nepotism. Beane and company have a FIRM grip on who deserves to be here from their job performance and who doesn't. If a "Brandon" family member still works for the Bills, its because they choose to keep him based on how he is doing in his respective job. Case closed. Thread dead. Peace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gugny said: Do you think Kim Pegula's credentials qualify her to run the team? If we look at her overall body of work as President of Pegula Sports and her hands deep in the Sabres activities then I would say HELL NO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: TBD has been on fire this week. Zay is putting out STATS in Oakland, Brady left the division because he was afraid of the Bills, and now this gem. Let's not forget that we're STILL trading for AJ Green. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Would not nepotism be where an incompetent person is hired or retained in a position due to ties to a person in an organizational hierarchy? If anything, retention of 'this' Brandon would seem to indicate that management has deemed his performance as acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Here is the stupidity of this thread and the "nepotism" nonsense being spewed here. There is NO nepotism. Beane and company have a FIRM grip on who deserves to be here from their job performance and who doesn't. If a "Brandon" family member still works for the Bills, its because they choose to keep him based on how he is doing in his respective job. Case closed. Thread dead. Peace. Are you the judge, jury, and executioner? Asking for a friend ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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