A Few Scattered Thoughts About The Draft.....

[fergie's ire]

Bill....trying to figure out the order of these thoughts of yours....alphabetical? chronological?

 

[SoCal Deek]

I find it interesting that with the draft now over...nobody is talking about Epenesa. I hope that means he’s a lock!

[ganesh]

3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

 

6) Congrats Bills Fans. Our organization finally appears to be making sense.

 

7) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First and foremost it is great to see a post from you.  Hope you and family are healthy and safe in the NYC area, 

 

Hipe to see you more active in the coming season

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

1) I am completely thrilled by the Fromm pick. Does he have Josh Allen talent? Of course not, but he was a complete steal!!! What a wonderful pick!!! Fromm is very smart and he is a leader. Those who pay any attention to my posts know that I am an Alabama Fan, and have been one my whole life. I'm saying point blank that I would rather have Fromm than Hurts on the Bills. Does this make me "right?" No. Call it an educated guess.

 

2) I have said before that I haven't seen enough Diggs to properly evaluate the trade. I also said that I was skeptical, and for good reason. Well, I am now just about OK with it. The Bills finally have a good OL, a young budding star QB, and what I think will be a fine backup.

 

3) It looks like they want to provide weapons to Josh, and prepare for him to get injured and have Fromm step in. What a great concept!!!! Chances are that a running QB like Josh WILL get hurt, no? They might actually be prepared for this now.

 

4) We might even be stronger at RB!

 

5) Don't you love the fact that Josh and Fromm are different style QBs? I mean really, how great is that? Opposing coaches will have to change their game plans if we are forced to switch. 

 

6) Congrats Bills Fans. Our organization finally appears to be making sense.

 

7) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

If one were to read between the lines, it's as if you kinda hope Allen gets hurt or fails!

[fansince88]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

You’re out of practice, Bill.

juss sayin’

well, things have been rough in NYC so........

49 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

Bill....trying to figure out the order of these thoughts of yours....alphabetical? chronological?

 

They are scattered

[Comebackkid]

granted my up close vison sux...however...and this could be slightly alchohol induced but...if i keep the pic of dane jackson small he sorta looks like fred.....jackson....

seeing him close up not as much but..hey...memories still.   

[The Fiend]

3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

The Bills finally have a good OL, a young budding star QB, and what I think will be a fine backup.

 

We have a good OL? What did we do to really improve the OL in the off-season??

 

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3) It looks like they want to provide weapons to Josh, and prepare for him to get injured and have Fromm step in. What a great concept!!!! Chances are that a running QB like Josh WILL get hurt, no? They might actually be prepared for this now.

 

It seems like you want Josh to get hurt. Also, I don't understand your giddiness about Fromm, a 5th round pick, just like Nate Peterman.

Edited April 26, 2020 by The Fiend

[eball]

Bill, there is an undercurrent to your post that screams "I don't believe in Josh Allen!"  This is absolutely your right, of course, but I thought I'd mention it since the majority of your post doesn't really have anything to do with the draft.

[buffaloboyinATL]

So scattered...as in no particular order?

[Richard Noggin]

You're kinda all-in on this Fromm pick, eh?

 

I'll bet McBeane are much more geeked about the physical DE and RB who fell to them in rounds 2 and 3, to be honest. They will see the field in week one (barring injuries or viral complications).

 

The QB pick represented excellent value; I'll give you that. And it's good to invest in the most important position in all of sports. 

[Bill from NYC]

7 hours ago, eball said:

Bill, there is an undercurrent to your post that screams "I don't believe in Josh Allen!"  This is absolutely your right, of course, but I thought I'd mention it since the majority of your post doesn't really have anything to do with the draft.

It was not intentional. How could one not get behind a qb as talented as Josh? Still, players get hurt. Ernie Accorsi once said that the most important player on your team is the qb, and the second most important is the backup qb.

Fromm does not have the talent of Josh. How many people do?  I still think that he might be a good QB and we got him in a late round. 

What is not to like?

[GETTOTHE50]

The comment about teams having to change game plans for a potential switch at qb is one of the more moronic statements i keep reading over and over again 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

The Titans need a 'media consultant'.  Badly.  (Just keeping with the thread title.)

[Bill from NYC]

2 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

The comment about teams having to change game plans for a potential switch at qb is one of the more moronic statements i keep reading over and over again 

I'm so sorry it bothered you sir. Impressing you would have pleased me.

Judging by your oh so well thought and well punctuated post, you seem to be a very intelligent person.

[SoCal Deek]

Anybody know when or if the Bills have ever gone through an entire draft without taking either a single O Lineman or LB? Not a criticism, but very interesting. Those late round LBs are typically where you find your Special Team heroes.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

14 hours ago, ny33 said:

I think the o-line is just ok, not good or great. 

 

The 2018 o-line was atrocious- one of the worst in NFL history- and Beane did a good job adding talent from free agency to protect their 2nd year QB. 

 

Dawkins is a middling starter, Morse somewhat above average, while Spain, Feliciano, and Ford are average at best (and Ford is a potentially massive liability). 
 

We need some elite talent on the o line, though I don’t think Beane saw an opportunity at 54 (Hunt went in the beginning of the round and there wasn’t much else available at guard). 

 

 

 

 

Every word in this sentence is a massive exaggeration.  While the line is not top 10, Dawkins is better than middling,  Morse is better that somewhat above average, and the other three are better than average.  And Ford is far, far fro ma massive liability, and was a rookie on top of all that asked to juggle between two positions a good part of the season.  On top of that 4 of the 5 guys weren't even with the team the year prior so there was little continuity.  Add in that Morse missed all of the off season which then caused  both Feliciano and Ford to switch positions (until Feliciano also got hurt) which again throughout training camp, limited reps together.  The first time all five got to play in their "normal" positions was opening day.

[dollars 2 donuts]

15 hours ago, ny33 said:

I think the o-line is just ok, not good or great. 

 

The 2018 o-line was atrocious- one of the worst in NFL history- and Beane did a good job adding talent from free agency to protect their 2nd year QB. 

 

Dawkins is a middling starter, Morse somewhat above average, while Spain, Feliciano, and Ford are average at best (and Ford is a potentially massive liability). 
 

We need some elite talent on the o line, though I don’t think Beane saw an opportunity at 54 (Hunt went in the beginning of the round and there wasn’t much else available at guard). 

 

 

 

agree.
 

Additionally, money will be an issue going into the future, so any thoughts about getting FA high caliber Oline might as well just go right out the window.  They have to draft their future linemen for a couple of years.

 

Hopefully our D and skill position talent will be enough.

 

I am not hating on our oline, I just agree in the thinking that they are simply ok.

Edited April 26, 2020 by dollars 2 donuts

[JohnC]

15 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

1) I am completely thrilled by the Fromm pick. Does he have Josh Allen talent? Of course not, but he was a complete steal!!! What a wonderful pick!!! Fromm is very smart and he is a leader. Those who pay any attention to my posts know that I am an Alabama Fan, and have been one my whole life. I'm saying point blank that I would rather have Fromm than Hurts on the Bills. Does this make me "right?" No. Call it an educated guess.

 

2) I have said before that I haven't seen enough Diggs to properly evaluate the trade. I also said that I was skeptical, and for good reason. Well, I am now just about OK with it. The Bills finally have a good OL, a young budding star QB, and what I think will be a fine backup.

 

3) It looks like they want to provide weapons to Josh, and prepare for him to get injured and have Fromm step in. What a great concept!!!! Chances are that a running QB like Josh WILL get hurt, no? They might actually be prepared for this now.

 

4) We might even be stronger at RB!

 

5) Don't you love the fact that Josh and Fromm are different style QBs? I mean really, how great is that? Opposing coaches will have to change their game plans if we are forced to switch. 

 

6) Congrats Bills Fans. Our organization finally appears to be making sense.

 

7) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree in general with your comments but disagree with your take on Fromm when comparing him to Hurts. With respect to Fromm I, like you, consider his selection in the fifth round a good selection. I don't believe that he is better than Hurts because the former Bama and OK qb has so much more upside rising to the level of a starter. However, he would not have been a wise selection for us in this draft whereas the Fromm selection does if one believes his role as a backup, which I do. 

 

As you noted Fromm is a smart qb who has a keen grasp of the mental side of the game. On the other hand he lacks the arm talent to maximize his impressive intellectual grasp of the game. He reminds me a lot of Barkley who is also a smart qb but also has some arm limitations. 

 

With a player such as Fromm he is the type of player who can end up with a long and lucrative career as a backup just like players such as Chase Daniels, Casey Keenum and Nick Foles. For the role that I see Fromm filling this was a good pick. 

 

 

[JohnC]

On 4/26/2020 at 5:35 AM, Bill from NYC said:

It was not intentional. How could one not get behind a qb as talented as Josh? Still, players get hurt. Ernie Accorsi once said that the most important player on your team is the qb, and the second most important is the backup qb.

Fromm does not have the talent of Josh. How many people do?  I still think that he might be a good QB and we got him in a late round. 

What is not to like?

I thought you might appreciate this assessment of Jake Fromm from ESPN's Jim Nagy who was on WGR. His positive view corresponds with your view of him. He points out that Fromm outperformed Eason and Fields, now highly touted as a player at Ohio State, when they were at Georgia. He's not saying that he is better but that he competed against them and had to show something to earn the starting job.  This is a 10 minute segment. 

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/04-30-espns-jim-nagy

[Bill from NYC]

19 hours ago, JohnC said:

I thought you might appreciate this assessment of Jake Fromm from ESPN's Jim Nagy who was on WGR. His positive view corresponds with your view of him. He points out that Fromm outperformed Eason and Fields, now highly touted as a player at Ohio State, when they were at Georgia. He's not saying that he is better but that he competed against them and had to show something to earn the starting job.  This is a 10 minute segment. 

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/04-30-espns-jim-nagy

Great stuff, thanks!

 

It is worth noting that the Bills were NOT looking for a qb at the time, but couldn't resist Fromm when he was still there. This was such an intelligent move by Beane! Also, they were talking about his arm strength and said it won't be a problem, and I agree. Do I expect Josh Allen or Drew Bledsoe circus throws? Of course not. Are they a necessity? No.

 

John, I never said that I expect Fromm to beat out Josh, and I do not want, nor do I expect any type of QB controversy. I do however expect Fromm to develop into a good quarterback. I also think that he was a GREAT draft pick. Other Bills GMs would have simply reached at a less important position. Instead, we have a good, smart kid who if he DOES develop, at the very least will be worth a high draft pick. There was nothing to lose and quite a bit to gain.

 

I'm loving it! 

 

 

[JohnC]

3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Great stuff, thanks!

 

It is worth noting that the Bills were NOT looking for a qb at the time, but couldn't resist Fromm when he was still there. This was such an intelligent move by Beane! Also, they were talking about his arm strength and said it won't be a problem, and I agree. Do I expect Josh Allen or Drew Bledsoe circus throws? Of course not. Are they a necessity? No.

 

John, I never said that I expect Fromm to beat out Josh, and I do not want, nor do I expect any type of QB controversy. I do however expect Fromm to develop into a good quarterback. I also think that he was a GREAT draft pick. Other Bills GMs would have simply reached at a less important position. Instead, we have a good, smart kid who if he DOES develop, at the very least will be worth a high draft pick. There was nothing to lose and quite a bit to gain.

 

I'm loving it! 

 

 

I always understood what you said about Fromm. There is a fanatical faction here who believe that any comment interpreted as a criticism of a Buffalo player, real or imagined, is a treasonous fan who should be hung by their testicles. I like Josh Allen and am happy that he is a Bill. However, I believe that Houston's Watson is a better qb now and will forever be. Many fans here believe that having an opinion contrary to the home crowd's tribal view is an unforgiveable traitorous transgression. It is a silly and childish way to follow sports.   

[Bill from NYC]

25 minutes ago, JohnC said:

I always understood what you said about Fromm. There is a fanatical faction here who believe that any comment interpreted as a criticism of a Buffalo player, real or imagined, is a treasonous fan who should be hung by their testicles. I like Josh Allen and am happy that he is a Bill. However, I believe that Houston's Watson is a better qb now and will forever be. Many fans here believe that having an opinion contrary to the home crowd's tribal view is an unforgiveable traitorous transgression. It is a silly and childish way to follow sports.   

Yeah, I had a couple of accusations and ironically, I posted how happy I was with the Allen pick the day after he was drafted and have not uttered one bad word about him since.

And you are 100% correct. When an astute poster like BADOL is chastised and scorned by other posters for not marching lockstep with the party line, the board loses something and is worse off.

[Einstein's Dog]

Bill -glad to read your excitement.  I would have to think you would be in agreement with me on the unusual joy that New England has helped us achieve.  NE unable to come to grips with TB now has the Bills as frontrunners for the AFCE.  And to add to that NE took Duggar, and there are strong rumors that the Bills would have taken him over Epenesa.  I value Epenesa over Duggar and am pleased things broke the way they did in that regard.

 

The slight differences I have with your thoughts:  I am ecstatic over the Diggs trade, to me that was the biggest need and they addressed it big time (much better than trying to gamble on a rookie).  Secondly, the Fromm pick doesn't do much for me.  Like you said the backup QB can be important, and IMO Fromm won't be useful for years if ever.  I look forward to the time when J Allen is so secure in the position that a real QB can be positioned there - kind of like the New Orleans model.  This team would be much better positioned for a great season if it could have handled Cam as a backup.  If Josh goes down, the expectations for the season go down a cliff, and Fromm IMO does nothing to stop  that bleak scenario.

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yeah, I had a couple of accusations and ironically, I posted how happy I was with the Allen pick the day after he was drafted and have not uttered one bad word about him since.

And you are 100% correct. When an astute poster like BADOL is chastised and scorned by other posters for not marching lockstep with the party line, the board loses something and is worse off.

Gotham Bill, Attached is a link of Jeff Dantzler from the Bulldog Network on WGR talking about Fromm. It is an 11 min segment. Dantzler points out that Fromm hurt his draft standing at the combine. And he noted that because of the coronavirus plague he wasn't able to have interviews and workouts where he could rectify the combine perceptions. By all accounts Jake Fromm is an exceptional person who has a good head for the game.

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/05-01-jeff-dantzler-from-the-georgia-bulldog-network-on-jake-fromm

 

 

Edited May 1, 2020 by JohnC

[stinky finger]

Bill -

 

How can you be more excited about drafting Fromm than acquiring Diggs? I have zero problem drafting Fromm, but if Allen goes down for any extended period we're in trouble. As is the case for most teams if their starter goes down. I can't get excited that they're different either. Fromm isn't that type of talent. Let's see if he even makes the team. Drafting Fromm doesn't make us better, just gives us another option. Hopefully he develops. I'd much rather have an experienced back up. 

 

Also, I don't see any opposing D coordinators losing any sleep preparing for Fromm. Different than Josh? He sure is. He's no threat, as I see it.

 

Better at RB? You bet we are. Big time. 

 

Regarding #6 - The organization finally making sense? I'd contend you're late to this. They've been making sense since they've arrive. Doesn't mean everything they've done, every decision they've made is right, but the direction and path are paved. I'd expect both Beane and McDermott to be extended before long. Would be the smartest thing Pegs could do. 

 

I think we can both agree, better days ahead. 

 

 

[Bill from NYC]

51 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Bill -glad to read your excitement.  I would have to think you would be in agreement with me on the unusual joy that New England has helped us achieve.  NE unable to come to grips with TB now has the Bills as frontrunners for the AFCE.  And to add to that NE took Duggar, and there are strong rumors that the Bills would have taken him over Epenesa.  I value Epenesa over Duggar and am pleased things broke the way they did in that regard.

 

The slight differences I have with your thoughts:  I am ecstatic over the Diggs trade, to me that was the biggest need and they addressed it big time (much better than trying to gamble on a rookie).  Secondly, the Fromm pick doesn't do much for me.  Like you said the backup QB can be important, and IMO Fromm won't be useful for years if ever.  I look forward to the time when J Allen is so secure in the position that a real QB can be positioned there - kind of like the New Orleans model.  This team would be much better positioned for a great season if it could have handled Cam as a backup.  If Josh goes down, the expectations for the season go down a cliff, and Fromm IMO does nothing to stop  that bleak scenario.

I can understand why some would not like Fromm. He doesn't have the big arm that sticks out at you and he doesn't have blazing foot speed. But, I have been watching him for years. He is smart, confident and a leader that his teammates seemed to respond well to. I am a huge Crimson Tide Fan and he had us beat until Tua made a play for the ages in overtime for the title.

I think that he will make it in this league but, make no mistake; the above does not make me "right." Theoretically, I am probably wrong given the number of professional GMs who passed on him. That said, as many here will tell you, many fans on this board have been more accurate wrt the draft than many GMs, including our own.

[Bill from NYC]

3 minutes ago, inaugural balls said:

Bill -

How can you be more excited about drafting Fromm than acquiring Diggs? I have zero problem drafting Fromm, but if Allen goes down for any extended period we're in trouble. As is the case for most teams if their starter goes down. I can't get excited that they're different either. Fromm isn't that type of talent. Let's see if he even makes the team. Drafting Fromm doesn't make us better, just gives us another option. Hopefully he develops. I'd much rather have an experienced back up. 

 

Also, I don't see any opposing D coordinators losing any sleep preparing for Fromm. Different than Josh? He sure is. He's no threat, as I see it.

Diggs cost us a great deal in a draft that was loaded with wide receivers. I hope it works out and we will find out soon enough. Am I just a bit wounded and skeptical from the oh so many dumb trades/draft picks this team has made? Of course. How could I not be?

6 minutes ago, inaugural balls said:

 

Regarding #6 - The organization finally making sense? I'd contend you're late to this. They've been making sense since they've arrive. Doesn't mean everything they've done, every decision they've made is right, but the direction and path are paved. I'd expect both Beane and McDermott to be extended before long. Would be the smartest thing Pegs could do. 

 

I think we can both agree, better days ahead. 

 

 

They passed on Mahomes and Watson. Again, I like Josh. I really do but stepping away from drafting one of these two and drafting a corner was the epitome of stupid. A textbook way to lose, and I don't care that Tre is a good or even great corner. It was idiotic to pass on these players. Obviously, Beane wasn't here yet and is not to blame.

 

Yes, better days ahead!!! 

[Einstein's Dog]

2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Diggs cost us a great deal in a draft that was loaded with wide receivers. I hope it works out and we will find out soon enough. Am I just a bit wounded and skeptical from the oh so many dumb trades/draft picks this team has made? Of course. How could I not be?

And prior to the trade I was incredibly worried about the WR1 pick.  Not only is the league wide hit rate around 50% but this front office seems below average.  And with the recent wounds of Zay Jones and K Benjamin who wasn't worried?

[stinky finger]

On 4/25/2020 at 7:27 PM, Formerly Allan in MD said:

We got comfortable drafting quarterbacks and kickers.  That's probably a good sign but we can't get too complacent; BB never does.

 

Those picks are a sign of complacency?

 

Didn't BB draft a K? BB didn't draft a QB either. 

 

 

[JESSEFEFFER]

On 4/25/2020 at 8:55 PM, plenzmd1 said:

I say no..i think QBs that are not mobile stand a much better chance of getting hurt. 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/quarterback-injuries-ben-roethlisberger-drew-brees-nick-foles-injury-update-2019-9

 

I know anecdotal, but look at this article from last year. Which one of these guys is a runnng QB? 

 

I think the idea that runing/mobile QBs get hurt more is akin to TOP results in wins. 

Football mythology, I agree. In all the times Josh has run, and we have easy access to review all of them, how many have ended with a bad or awkward hit?  I'd say less than 5.

 

Now how many bad hits has he suffered in the pocket?  Many more including the only one that has caused him to miss time.  That's my answer.  I have more concerns about a lower body injury from the huge, fast moving bodies associated with a collapsing pocket. 

[Fan in Chicago]

On 4/25/2020 at 5:11 PM, Bill from NYC said:

 

 

7) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good post as usual, Bill. I am particularly happy that they drafted a "project" QB and a K with low draft picks (yea I get excited about that kinda stuff). Round 5+ are perfect places to take flyers and special teams-only players. 

On 5/1/2020 at 9:17 AM, Bill from NYC said:

 

And you are 100% correct. When an astute poster like BADOL is chastised and scorned by other posters for not marching lockstep with the party line, the board loses something and is worse off.

Speaking for myself, I am generally impressed with BADOL's knowledge of the game. But I cannot stand his condescending attitude, arrogant style and a general inability to admit he was wrong

[Don Otreply]

On 5/1/2020 at 10:17 AM, Bill from NYC said:

Yeah, I had a couple of accusations and ironically, I posted how happy I was with the Allen pick the day after he was drafted and have not uttered one bad word about him since.

And you are 100% correct. When an astute poster like BADOL is chastised and scorned by other posters for not marching lockstep with the party line, the board loses something and is worse off.

A lot of the chastisement of some posters is not because of there view on some of our guys, as I have my  own doubts as well, it is rather from the verbiage “some” use to express their views, it is all to often presented in absolutes, so it then naturally invites the rebuke, versus a constructive counter point. 

    We all know there is a chance Josh doesn’t get a whole lot better than this past season, or even takes a step back, although unlikely, on the other hand he may very well make a big jump in his game and impress us all. 
   Nuthin but luv ??
 

Go Bills!!! 

Edited May 2, 2020 by Don Otreply

[Bill from NYC]

On ‎5‎/‎2‎/‎2020 at 1:09 PM, Fan in Chicago said:

 

Speaking for myself, I am generally impressed with BADOL's knowledge of the game. But I cannot stand his condescending attitude, arrogant style and a general inability to admit he was wrong

I admit that Badol can be a tad brusque in his posts but remember, he has been chased and ridiculed by the unbending homers for many years, perhaps decades.

He is a true fan, and has been to virtually every home game for 20 or so years. Despite his tone at times, the knowledge he brings to this board is part of what makes this a great community.

I don't agree with him on every issue but what I can say is that when I have not, a large majority of the time (not 100% lol), I was on the wrong side.

The good news is that from what I know he isn't banned. This could be the time of year when he is very busy at work.

I await his views on this draft.

 

GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited May 6, 2020 by Bill from NYC

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I admit that Badol can be a tad brusque in his posts but remember, he has been chased and ridiculed by the unbending homers for many years, perhaps decades.

He is a true fan, and has been to virtually every home game for 20 or so years. Despite his tone at times, the knowledge he brings to this board is part of what makes this a great community.

I don't agree with him on every issue but what I can say is that when I have, a large majority of the time (not 100% lol), I was on the wrong side.

The good news is that from what I know he isn't banned. This could be the time of year when he is very busy at work.

I await his views on this draft.

 

GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Yea I don't agree with Badol on everything either - although I think he is right more often than he is wrong.... but could do with a little bit more humility on the occasions he is wrong at times. The board is 100% a better place with him though. He is one of the guys whose posts I always make an effort to read. He does tend to be less active in the offseason and more active in the season. That pattern is pretty normal for him.

[Bill from NYC]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea I don't agree with Badol on everything either - although I think he is right more often than he is wrong.... but could do with a little bit more humility on the occasions he is wrong at times. The board is 100% a better place with him though. He is one of the guys whose posts I always make an effort to read. He does tend to be less active in the offseason and more active in the season. That pattern is pretty normal for him.

I agree but I think this applies to most of us because we care so much for so long about the Bills. And like I said, he gets stalked and attacked.

Did you look at the thread that is up now from the archives about Mahomes having a bad week at practice? People were furious at him for saying Mahomes would be good and btw, he said BEFORE the draft that Tre White was the best corner in the draft.

GB there are still folks defending that trade and that is great.....this is a Bills message board. Badol isn't afraid to go against the grain and this makes this board more interesting.

Jmo.

Edited May 4, 2020 by Bill from NYC

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Bill from NYC said:

I agree but I think this applies to most of us because we care so much for so long about the Bills. And like I said, he gets stalked and attacked.

Did you look at the thread that is up now from the archives about Mahomes having a bad week at practice? People were furious at him for saying Mahomes would be good and btw, he said BEFORE the draft that Tre White was the best corner in the draft.

GB there are still folks defending that trade and that is great.....this is a Bills message board. Badol isn't afraid to go against the grain and we need this to be a more interesting board.

Jmo.

 

I know he said before the draft that White would be the best corner. I remember discussing at length with him. I was Lattimore first and White and Humphrey tied 2nd very close behind. White at this stage is the best of the three but the other two are among the top half dozen corners in the league as well so not sure it matters that much at this stage - it was billed as the best DB class ever and through three seasons it has lived up to that billing.

 

[nucci]

I still don't get people not being sure about Diggs...if you watch other games besides the Bills you would know how good he is...as for Fromm...i think it was a good pick but to think it gives the Bills an advantage because our QBs are different doesn't make sense. How many teams game plan for the backup QB?

[Fan in Chicago]

2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

I admit that Badol can be a tad brusque in his posts but remember, he has been chased and ridiculed by the unbending homers for many years, perhaps decades.

He is a true fan, and has been to virtually every home game for 20 or so years. Despite his tone at times, the knowledge he brings to this board is part of what makes this a great community.

 

 

GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HIs fan-dom or football knowledge is never in doubt.

 

Anyway, we are good, sir. Happy to see you are happy with the draft as opposed to several years back when you were repeatedly disappointed 

[purple haze]

On 4/25/2020 at 3:11 PM, Bill from NYC said:

1) I am completely thrilled by the Fromm pick. Does he have Josh Allen talent? Of course not, but he was a complete steal!!! What a wonderful pick!!! Fromm is very smart and he is a leader. Those who pay any attention to my posts know that I am an Alabama Fan, and have been one my whole life. I'm saying point blank that I would rather have Fromm than Hurts on the Bills. Does this make me "right?" No. Call it an educated guess.

Over the production of Alabama Jalen Hurts?  Maybe.  Over the production of Oklahoma Jalen Hurts?  Hell no.  Hurts is smart and a leader too.  And he's more physically talented than Fromm.

Edited May 4, 2020 by purple haze

[Bill from NYC]

59 minutes ago, purple haze said:

Over the production of Alabama Jalen Hurts?  Maybe.  Over the production of Oklahoma Jalen Hurts?  Hell no.  Hurts is smart and a leader too.  And he's more physically talented than Fromm.

Of course you are correct! The things is, who did Oklahoma play that had a decent defense?

I am not going to badmouth Jalen. He may turn out to be fine; I however think it might take him a while. Like I said, I could EASILY be wrong but I think that Fromm is a better fit in the NFL.