NoSaint Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said: Your upset we drafted a player that will be a “solid” starter? SMH No he said he was disappointed that was the extent of the upside, not that he thought that’s what he actually will be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Amazing pick. He dominated big ten lineman his entire time at Iowa. Don't understand how people dislike this pick. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Success said: Can't wait until this guy lays a hit on Brady next year... ummm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I really wanted Dobbins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Odd that some are surprised by this pick. The only downside is we won't see him plant Cheatin Tom Brady*** In the dirt this season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, par73 said: I would describe Epenesa as "plodding." Definitely not a dynamic pass rusher (otherwise wouldn't have been available here). I am not a fan. For those talking about RB-- I loved Dobbins, but knew the Bills wouldn't address the position in the 2nd round This is a terrible pick. This guy mark my words will be Chris Kelsay reincarnated. Slow 40 time, scouted slow off the snap. Would it have killed Sean to go offense @ 54. Not to mention two of our rivals take Dobbins & Mims. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Dobbins or Mims would have been nice. Why do we need a 4th WR to sit on the bench for next 2 years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: ummm Super Bowl, dude! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 He's the sort of DE to help maximise Ed Oliver's potential. Great at setting the edge and letting Oliver rush the passer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I knew this pick wouldn't be offense. As for the pick, I hope he's a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: This is a terrible pick. This guy mark my words will be Chris Kelsay reincarnated. Slow 40 time, scouted slow off the snap. Would it have killed Sean to go offense @ 54. Not to mention two of our rivals take Dobbins & Mims. Mark your own words b.c I doubt you will ever quote them in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zona Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Love this pick. Phil Hansen 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Kenosha2Buffalo said: Amazing pick. He dominated big ten lineman his entire time at Iowa. Don't understand how people dislike this pick. There were a lot of offensive toys people fell in love with (Dobbins, Mims, Edwards). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: What did the best offensive line prospects in the draft have to say about AJ...well you can read here and see what this is a GREAT pick: That's what we saw. But what we heard during interviews with the offensive players who faced him was a very different story. Michigan left tackle Jon Runyan, who provides deeply technical insights into his opponents, said Epenesa was tied with Ohio State's Chase Young as the two toughest defenders he ever faced. "A.J. exploits the weakness of what I play," Runyan said. "I'm a vertical setter, and the weakness of a vertical set is what A.J. loves to do: bull rush with a one-armed stab. He's able to catch me leaning a lot, catch me off guard. Early in the [2019 Michigan vs. Iowa] game, the first three or four drives, I wasn't really keying on his shoulders. He started running downhill, and I wasn't able to get my hips down and react to the bull rush." Purdue tight end Brycen Hopkins also singled out Epenesa as one of the toughest defenders he ever faced, adding a most unusual compliment to his scouting report: "I thought he was a great player. He was physical, but at the same time he's a cool guy. He wasn't a jerk out there. ... So I thought he was a great player, great guy. He came off the ball with an explosive power." And then there's teammate Tristan Wirfs, one of the stars of Friday night's offensive line workouts. Wirfs didn't hesitate to name Epenesa as the toughest defender he ever faced. Sure, he may be a teensy bit biased, but players rarely single out teammates when answering "toughest opponent" questions. "We had some battles," Wirfs said. "When I met with the Broncos, they said a scout was there [at Iowa practice] and I didn't lose to A.J. So I said, 'I'm glad you were there on that day.'" "It goes back and forth, me and him," Wirfs added. "He was one of my best friends on the team. We will try to help each other get better. If he sees something that he beat me on, he'll tell me what he saw. And when I beat him, I tell him what I saw." So Epenesa earned glowing endorsements from a first-round-caliber teammate and two of the guys who had to block him, and those were just the remarks we heard while making the interview rounds. If you don't believe Runyan, Hopkins and Wirfs, there's also the production across two seasons against major competition. And also there's the tape, which shows opponents redesigning their offenses to corral him. At one point against Minnesota, for example, Epenesa was chipped by the tight end before a route, and then chipped by a running back before a route, with the left tackle backing up to engage Epenesa after he worked his way through that whole bag of chips. (It's at the 2:09 mark on this cutup.) BUMPING this post I made earlier...read what the top OL LINE PROSPECTS who FACED him had to say about AJ. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said: Amazing pick. He dominated big ten lineman his entire time at Iowa. Don't understand how people dislike this pick. Some people like boom or bust picks. Epenesa is the exact opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I love this pick. Getting a DE with his level of talent this late in the draft is a huge win. I think he'll be a better pass rusher than people think. He doesn't have flashy moves, but he's hard to block and he gets to the QB. Plus, on obvious passing downs you can kick him inside. He looks to be a monster against the run too. No one's running his way on 3rd and short. Bills DL is going to be nasty. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, par73 said: I would describe Epenesa as "plodding." Definitely not a dynamic pass rusher (otherwise wouldn't have been available here). I am not a fan. For those talking about RB-- I loved Dobbins, but knew the Bills wouldn't address the position in the 2nd round Not a dominating pass rusher, yet he led the big 10 in sacks in 2017, 2018 and 2019..... 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Doc Brown said: There were a lot of offensive toys people fell in love with (Dobbins, Mims, Edwards). Yea it's sad when people do things like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, TigerJ said: High floor, not a real high ceiling. He's thought of as strong, but interestingly at the combine, his bench press was tied for the worst in the group. Most already know his 40 time and 10 yard split were pretty poor. I think he has some ability to get stronger and to become more explosive with strength and conditioning work. He'll be a solid player, but I don't expect him to0 become any kind of a star. We'll see. Around these parts he will likely be a horrible Harry type. Likely solid player, easy to cheer for but likely not a game changer and his reputation will outpace his play a bit... that’s not to say he won’t be a solid addition. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: Phil Hansen 2.0? A Hanson for the Twenties” ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Uninspiring pick, but he fits their prototype LDE. I wasn’t a big AJE guy, so I’ll be in “trust the process” mode on this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre1236 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1253850801858138113?s=20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: What did the best offensive line prospects in the draft have to say about AJ...well you can read here and see what this is a GREAT pick: That's what we saw. But what we heard during interviews with the offensive players who faced him was a very different story. ... this is fantastic! thank you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, DJB said: So long Trent Murphy Um, .... No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: There were a lot of offensive toys people fell in love with (Dobbins, Mims, Edwards). Bills allowed 16 ppg last year. How does this pick move that needle? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Why do we need a 4th WR to sit on the bench for next 2 years? Some teams utilize more than 3 WRs these days. It wouldn’t have been unreasonable or a wasted pick. May as well say he’s our 4th DE. It’s a position where guys get lots of reps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said: Amazing pick. He dominated big ten lineman his entire time at Iowa. Don't understand how people dislike this pick. Yeah it makes no sense. Dude was a beast and huge value where we got him and probably the biggest need on the roster with our starting edge guys 32 and 34 respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I'm a big fan of guys who dominate in multiple sports. The fact he was all state in football, basketball, discus, etc. bodes well. Shades of Big Kyle? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, NoSaint said: Some teams utilize more than 3 WRs these days. It wouldn’t have been unreasonable or a wasted pick. May as well say he’s our 4th DE. It’s a position where guys get lots of reps. Im not saying not to take a WR there, but people are upset about AJ as if we NEEDED a WR there. DE was a bigger need and AJ was the BPA on the board IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills allowed 16 ppg last year. How does this pick move that needle? 15? 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 So with 22 and 54 Bills get Stefon Diggs and another 1st round talent for over 11 months (until combine) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills allowed 16 ppg last year. How does this pick move that needle? One fewer point allowed in regulation against the Texans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Really surprises to not see more people really happy with this pick. If you are a bpa person he was clearly in the top 5 bpa according to pretty much every ranking. If you are a need guy, de was certainly a need as the current depth is very long in the tooth. He fills a role in the mcd defense and appears to be a culture fit. There are 6 more picks to go. Plenty of time to find that rb to split the load with singletary. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yeah it makes no sense. Dude was a beast and huge value where we got him and probably the biggest need on the roster with our starting edge guys 32 and 34 respectively. What will be his immediate impact on a D that only allowed 16 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, ScottLaw said: They are scared to draft a WR. They got t one in the first round... Come on man you just became a Bills fan? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Offense at 54 was a long shot.... these guys can’t help themselves. Defense first. Well... actually it was offense first and it was for a top ten wr. but you do your thing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: 15? LOL exactly. So what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills allowed 16 ppg last year. How does this pick move that needle? And the Bills lost players on that side of the ball... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 So weird that people are upset with this pick. Buffalo only had one glaring need after we acquired Diggs: DE I don't watch much college ball, but I know this kid was being mocked to us in the 1st. Sounds like he's ultra talented but just didn't play a ton in college. If we don't draft another player, I'm excited about this team. Those clamoring for us to draft an RB like Dobbins in round 2 are missing the value of RBs and the gems you can get from smaller schools later: see Devon Singletary. And who knows? Maybe McDermott and Beane are happier with the RB room than we are. Maybe they saw Wade really progress in his learning of the NFL game last year? I'm almost expecting OL in round 3. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills allowed 16 ppg last year. How does this pick move that needle? It goes to 15.5 holmes lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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