C.Biscuit97 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Physical ability can take you far, especially in college. And he could be an all-time great. To me he seems checked-out. He was off to the best passing start of his career 2 years ago and running less. He was evolving and then got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Doc said: I'd give Winston a shot for backup money. Cam is too much of a diva and I never got that he really loved the game or took his job seriously. I just can’t see McD having a comfort level with winston’s turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I just can’t see McD having a comfort level with winston’s turnovers. Barkley and Peterman have entered the chat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He was off to the best passing start of his career 2 years ago and running less. He was evolving and then got hurt. Just my feeling. And I think that injuries have taken their toll and he's not the player and won't ever be the same player he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Doc said: Just my feeling. And I think that injuries have taken their toll and he's not the player and won't ever be the same player he was. I mean that definitely is valid. I just feels he gets a very bad rap. Terrible dresser but when healthy, a top 10 qb who has played with some garbage offensive talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 16 hours ago, Doc said: Is Cam on anyone's mind? Jameis? No, never was for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 ?♂️ 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Really? Again with this nonsense, even after drafting a QB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 ESPN is a destitute man's Sports Illustrated (even in its current, shell of itself form)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Empty-headed Speculative Poop Network 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 The Bills are not the right spot for Cam, Josh doesn't need a big name personality behind him as a backup. Barkley is a capable back and Fromm is the developmental guy. They don't need a QB behind Josh that is going to command a lot of attention and be a possible headache. I like Cam but I think he needs to sit 2020 out and get healthy and then reassess his options once more QB slots open up. His biggest concern is his health and if he sat out 2020 I think he would get his health in order and teams would look at him more positively in 2021. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, Warcodered said: ?♂️ sometimes i wonder if ESPN reporters watch sports at all, or just are given a story line and make up whatever they like 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, dorquemada said: sometimes i wonder if ESPN reporters watch sports at all, or just are given a story line and make up whatever they like I'm sure they watch plenty of sports, just not the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, gregor7777 said: I'm sure they watch plenty of sports, just not the Bills. I'm guessing they all watch the same small handful of teams and games and 'report' on the rest based primarily on the echo chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Who even was that guy? Opinions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I really don’t get why people think this is so wild. I agree it’s not going to happen but from non Bills fans, qb is the weak spot on the team. Allen and Newton have similar styles, Barkley sucks, and Fromm was a 4th rounder who is far from certain as a nfl qb. if the Bills really wanted to go all in on a SB, they would sign Newton. If Allen is truly the guy, he would thrive off the competition and welcome it. He’s gotten hurt both years and I would much rather have Newton than terrible Barkley and Fromm, who might be Barkley Jr. and if Allen isn’t the guy, you have a former MVP to possible transition to. again, they won’t sign him and I am firm with it because it could definitely mess with Allen’s head. But if you’re a non Bills fans, it makes a ton of sense. 28 minutes ago, dorquemada said: sometimes i wonder if ESPN reporters watch sports at all, or just are given a story line and make up whatever they like Yeah if only they had experts like Skip Bayless, Jason Whitlock, or Colin Cowherd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Tbh I don’t think it’s that far fetched. Josh Allen is an unknown at this point. He’s the biggest question mark on this team. Does he deserve the chance to start? Absolutely. Is he good enough to take this team deep in the playoffs? Not sure. Is there a chance he sinks our season with poor performance? It’s possible. Is he an injury risk with his playstyle? Sure. Newton if healthy is a sizeable upgrade on Matt Barkley. If healthy he might be a sizeable upgrade on Allen. It has gotten to a point where Newton has to fight for a job wherever he signs. He is coming in to compete. Nothing will be handed to him. Besides the media I’ve never heard negative comments being made about his abilities to lead a team. The talk of him being a prima-donna is very likely media drivel. We have the cap space. We’re about as good as we’ll ever be on defense. Our offence though developing is looking pretty good heading into the season. We can under no circumstances let the prime of this team be dragged down by poor QB play or injury. IF Cam comes in and beats JA out in camp as starter... so what? Hurt feelings because we burned a top 10 pick on a QB that wasn’t good enough? IF JA wins the job well have a competent back up in case of injury. To the people worrying about Cam being a sideshow... we can always cut him. If JA isn’t mentally strong enough to compete for a job than I don’t want him. all this being said I think it’s a long shot but I see a path where it could make sense. The Beane-Carolina connection is real. Id fully expect JA to beat Cam out for the job. I just really like the fact we’d have a backup that can run a similar offence stylistically. We’d be truly leaving no stone unturned in the chase for a Super Bowl. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: The Bills are not the right spot for Cam, Josh doesn't need a big name personality behind him as a backup. Barkley is a capable back and Fromm is the developmental guy. They don't need a QB behind Josh that is going to command a lot of attention and be a possible headache. I like Cam but I think he needs to sit 2020 out and get healthy and then reassess his options once more QB slots open up. His biggest concern is his health and if he sat out 2020 I think he would get his health in order and teams would look at him more positively in 2021. I agree with most of this except Barkley being a capable backup. We are understanding how bad he has been when he plays. If Barkley has to play, the season is over and that should not be the case. 11 minutes ago, Doc said: Who even was that guy? Opinions... Former starting nfl cb and NFLPA president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: The Bills are not the right spot for Cam, Josh doesn't need a big name personality behind him as a backup. Barkley is a capable back and Fromm is the developmental guy. They don't need a QB behind Josh that is going to command a lot of attention and be a possible headache. I like Cam but I think he needs to sit 2020 out and get healthy and then reassess his options once more QB slots open up. His biggest concern is his health and if he sat out 2020 I think he would get his health in order and teams would look at him more positively in 2021. He could very well be healthy right now. If healthy, he's easily still a starter in the league. The virus and its timing did him no favors. Sitting out might be the play, regardless of health. There will be injuries and bad starting QB play. These GMs will call then. Chicago will be the first team calling. Nick Foles... please. Tannehill? Yeah, ok. ? Edited April 29, 2020 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jkeerie Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, dorquemada said: sometimes i wonder if ESPN reporters watch sports at all, or just are given a story line and make up whatever they like Pete Schrager posited the same thing on GMFB. They're simply connecting dots that shouldn't be connected: Bills/Carolina connection; tall, big mobile QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Simon said: He will never live that down nor should he. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I think Cam Newton will struggle to find work in the NFL in 2020 because unless he's changed his diet/fitness regimen back to what's required to fuel a body that can take the beating the NFL game provides, no NFL team is going to bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: ?♂️ ...best "landing spot"?......better be ONLY for a 30 minute layover............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, FLFan said: He will never live that down nor should he. You can bet that, after the defensive effort put forth by the panthers in that game, McD has not forgotten that decision by Cam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 This is a terrible idea that people will just not let die. This is something you do if you are uncommitted to your starter, or feel he needs a push, which is probably the same thing. Regardless of how some around here obviously feel, that is not the case with the Bills. Beane is right in saying Cam will not, and probably should not accept a backup position, and the bills job is simply not open to competition. That would be the absolute worst way to develop Allen at this point. Creating controversy at the QB position does not help them in the least. Cam creates controversy. All that assumes he can even still play at a high level. It has been quite some time since that has been the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Simon said: People slam Orton for the 2014 Broncos short-slide, but this? In the Super Bowl? Completely gutless & inexcusable. Edited April 29, 2020 by Rico 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rico said: People slam Orton for the 2014 Broncos short-slide, but this? In the Super Bowl? Completely gutless & inexcusable. You will never see Josh Allen do this. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, FLFan said: You will never see Josh Allen do this. We may see him fumble but he will kill himself trying to get it back 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 53 minutes ago, purple haze said: He could very well be healthy right now. If healthy, he's easily still a starter in the league. The virus and its timing did him no favors. Sitting out might be the play, regardless of health. There will be injuries and bad starting QB play. These GMs will call then. Chicago will be the first team calling. Nick Foles... please. Tannehill? Yeah, ok. ? He has had a lot of injuries to the point where I think he isn't going to be healthy anytime soon. It isn't like he is coming off of one big injury. He has had 2-3 major injuries along with several other minor injuries in the past 4-5 years. He needs a year to get physically and mentally right. I would love to have seen a team sign him and IR him for a year as I think that would be best for his development as he ages to really get a full years worth of rest on his body as he ages into his 30's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I knew this 3 weeks ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, jkeerie said: They're simply connecting dots ... I swear you've used that phrase before...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I think it goes without saying that it’s very, very slow in the sports world. These guys need to come up with stuff to talk about. There’s an obvious connection with with Beane and McDermott to Newton and any former Carolina player really. Cam signing with Buffalo has zero chance of happening. I’ll shave my cats butt if it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 If Cam were to sign for $5M/year or less, I'd jump on it. However I think he'll want north of $15M. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Carucci doing some award-winning journalism on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: We may see him fumble but he will kill himself trying to get it back or ***** kill others...preferably 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Winston signed for $1M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, ngbills said: Winston signed for $1M You think Cam will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Ok, let's assume Beane wants to bring him in as a backup... with the hope to move him during the year. 1) Talk with Josh Allen. Tell him you are bringing him ONLY as a backup and that he is the #1 QB. If he says NO, then drop it all. 2) When Josh says 'ok', try and sign Newton to a 1 year backup deal of around 5-7MIL. 3) Hold on to him and when someone loses a starting QB, try and trade him to that team. Maybe we can get a 3rd out of him. If not, then we have a good backup for this coming year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, hjnick said: Ok, let's assume Beane wants to bring him in as a backup... with the hope to move him during the year. 1) Talk with Josh Allen. Tell him you are bringing him ONLY as a backup and that he is the #1 QB. If he says NO, then drop it all. 2) When Josh says 'ok', try and sign Newton to a 1 year backup deal of around 5-7MIL. 3) Hold on to him and when someone loses a starting QB, try and trade him to that team. Maybe we can get a 3rd out of him. If not, then we have a good backup for this coming year. I doubt Josh would have a problem with it. But I'd bet Cam wouldn't accept that low a salary and maybe even a backup role, at least without creating waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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