MMQB: Bills spent considerable time with top WRs including Jeudy and Lamb

[YoloinOhio]

 

For what it’s worth, the Bills spent a considerable time with the top receivers in the class at Indy—including Alabama’s Jerry Jeudy and Oklahoma’s CeeDee Lamb. Those sorts of things aren’t always a tell, but Buffalo could use a No. 1 to pair with complementary weapons Cole Beasley and John Brown. And they’re picking at 22, right around where there could be a run on them.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/03/02/tom-brady-bill-belichick-patriots-nfl-comb

[YoloinOhio]

Interesting considering they weren’t listed as formal or informal meetings 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2020/2/25/21153266/2020-nfl-combine-buffalo-bills-meeting-tracker-nfl-draft

[Putin]

I believe both will be gone before our pick at 22

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, Putin said:

I believe both will be gone before our pick at 22

That’s the general consensus

[BeastMaster]

Watch out for a trade should we fill our need for a pass rusher in free agency.

 

They'll have to jump Oakland if they want Jeudy, and Lamb won't be on the board within a few picks after that.

[White Linen]

It's amazing how similar their measurables are.  I'm normally against a trade up in the first round.  It just costs too much, IMO.  However I'd consider it for Jeudy - I think he's going to be special.  Even though they have similar playing styles - the way Jeudy runs routes and has a lot of nasty in his game, I'd only consider it for him. 

[NewEra]

**** it, let’s do it!!! I’m on board!

[YoloinOhio]

They could just be doing due diligence in case one of them falls. I wouldnt be surprised if Beane was the  one who leaked that report about nfl personnel “disappointed in Lamb’s athleticism” haha 

Edited March 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[Mark80]

These two are as good of WR prospects as you are going to get.  Jeudy has the edge on cutting ability, Lamb has the better hands.  If its a 1 and a 2 to get them, I'm heavily considering it.  But I don't think I could stomach 2 1st rounders.

[YoloinOhio]

I do think it’s interesting that Breer singled these two out, and these are the only two NOT listed as guys they met with. Where did he see then meeting? I picture a dark hallway.

Edited March 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[Putin]

14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

That’s the general consensus

What’s your opinion on Jalen Reagor from TCU ? To be honest I would mind him or Ruggs III 

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, Putin said:

What’s your opinion on Jalen Reagor from TCU ? To be honest I would mind him or Ruggs III 

I think he’s a faster Jarvis Landry. I would consider him in the 2nd. I don’t completely trust his hands. I feel that is going to be a huge factor in their pick unless they take more than one WR.

[Sherlock Holmes]

If we can't get Kupp I'd take one of either Jeudy, Lamb or Ruggs III!

Edited March 2, 2020 by Sherlock Holmes

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, Mark80 said:

These two are as good of WR prospects as you are going to get.  Jeudy has the edge on cutting ability, Lamb has the better hands.  If its a 1 and a 2 to get them, I'm heavily considering it.  But I don't think I could stomach 2 1st rounders.

Has better hands and RAC.  His ability with the ball in his hands is up there with any WR in the league currently imo

[HappyDays]

We know Beane likes to trade up. I'm sure if they do it will be for one of the top 3 WRs. I think the Bucs at pick 14 is the spot they are keeping an eye on.

[jletha]

27 minutes ago, Putin said:

I believe both will be gone before our pick at 22

I think the point is that they could make a move up. Beane isnt afraid to move up in the draft. Allen, Edmunds, Ford all were traded up for in the early rounds.

 

If one of the bigger 3 (Jeudy, Lamb, Jefferson) make it to 15 or beyond I could see him making a move.

[DCOrange]

Interesting to say the least. I'm not super big on trading up for a WR in a class like this, but I know Beane can't help himself sometimes and I imagine the top 3 WRs are all very tempting to him.

 

#14 ahead of Denver seems like the sweet spot if he doesn't care which of the 3 he gets (though there's a chance they're all taken at that point too). #10 ahead of the Jets, Raiders, Colts, and Broncos makes sense if Beane wants to go up and get a specific guy.

 

Edit: To put in perspective what we're talking about in terms of price, Pittsburgh sent #20, #52, and a future 3rd to move up to #10 last year so it would cost something close to a 1, a 2, and a 3 for us. Maybe slightly more than that depending on how high we want to go.

Edited March 2, 2020 by DCOrange

[Buffalo Junction]

12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think he’s a faster Jarvis Landry. I would consider him in the 2nd. I don’t completely trust his hands. I feel that is going to be a huge factor in their pick unless they take more than one WR.

I’m not as down on his hands as many. I worry more that a fair amount of his concentration lapses are due to apathy and then trying too hard when he did get the ball. In other words, he seemed mentally affected by poor QB play. If you watch the complete games you can see him visibly frustrated. Granted there were plays where he’d be wide open during a read and the QB would go elsewhere, passes sailed over his head, behind him, etc. That coupled with his poor run blocking are my dings on Reagor. Flipeside is that there’s tape of him chasing down a db from behind after an int and stripping the ball out with Don Beene effort. ?‍♂️...

 

With that in mind, I think you can get a similar player in Lynn Bowden Jr later, and Bowden doesn’t have any real knocks other than rusty route running from playing QB. 

Edited March 2, 2020 by Buffalo Junction

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Junction said:

I’m not as down on his hands as many. I worry more that a fair amount of his concentration lapses are due to apathy and then trying too hard when he did get the ball. In other words, he seemed mentally affected by poor QB play. If you watch the complete games you can see him visibly frustrated. Granted there were plays where he’d be wide open during a read and the QB would go elsewhere, passes sailed over his head, behind him, etc. That coupled with his poor run blocking are my dings on Reagor. Flipeside is that there’s tape of him chasing down a FB from behind after an int and stripping the ball out with Don Beene effort. ?‍♂️...

 

With that in mind, I think you can get a similar player in Lynn Bowden Jr later, and Bowden doesn’t have any real knocks other than rusty route running from playing QB. 

I have a feeling Bowden is going to go pretty late. Teams will be digging Up some info on him from HS. The value is there, he’s an ok kid. He also punts! I was at this game.

 

 

[Magox]

51 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Interesting considering they weren’t listed as formal or informal meetings 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2020/2/25/21153266/2020-nfl-combine-buffalo-bills-meeting-tracker-nfl-draft

 

That's a whole lot of WR's they've talked to....Hard to extrapolate what they are going to do aside from choose a WR somewhere in the draft but if I had to take a guess there may be a decent chance they will select a couple.   

[Victory Formation]

Trade up in the works?

[MJS]

I'm sure if they trade up for one they are going to pick a quality guy, so I'm all for it. I just don't think they need to hone in on one specific receiver and mortgage the farm to go get him. Have 3-4 guys you are willing to go get if they fall to a specific spot. Don't do anything crazy like trade up to 5.

[Putin]

24 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

Interesting to say the least. I'm not super big on trading up for a WR in a class like this, but I know Beane can't help himself sometimes and I imagine the top 3 WRs are all very tempting to him.

 

#14 ahead of Denver seems like the sweet spot if he doesn't care which of the 3 he gets (though there's a chance they're all taken at that point too). #10 ahead of the Jets, Raiders, Colts, and Broncos makes sense if Beane wants to go up and get a specific guy.

 

Edit: To put in perspective what we're talking about in terms of price, Pittsburgh sent #20, #52, and a future 3rd to move up to #10 last year so it would cost something close to a 1, a 2, and a 3 for us. Maybe slightly more than that depending on how high we want to go.

I would be TOTALLY against a move like this, IMO to give up a 1,2, and a 3rd for a WR especially in a deep of a WR draft as this would be mind boggling 

[JaCrispy]

Just now, Putin said:

I would be TOTALLY against a move like this, IMO to give up a 1,2, and a 3rd for a WR especially in a deep of a WR draft as this would be mind boggling 

That’s why they call it “The Whaley “ ?

[Buffalo Junction]

17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I have a feeling Bowden is going to go pretty late. Teams will be digging Up some info on him from HS. The value is there, he’s an ok kid. He also punts! I was at this game.

 

 

I certainly can’t speak to the talk of gang affiliations in HS, etc. I’m not sure if that’ll be a huge knock on him as he seems to have left that behind. However, the incident before the Virginia Tech game is definitely something he’s being asked about in interviews. 

[BillsFan17]

If Beane trades up for a WR, in this class, I'll lose a lot of faith in his judgement.

[TigerJ]

1 hour ago, Putin said:

I believe both will be gone before our pick at 22

Pretty much a certainty.  So, the fact that they invested time to talk to them suggests the notion of a trade up is at least on the table.  I don't personally think that's going to happen, but the Bills seem to have not ruled it out.  I suppose it could be a smoke screen, but I don't think the Bills have done a lot of that since Buddy Nix was telling anybody who listened that Cordy Glenn was a guard.

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

Pretty much a certainty.  So, the fact that they invested time to talk to them suggests the notion of a trade up is at least on the table.  I don't personally think that's going to happen, but the Bills seem to have not ruled it out.  I suppose it could be a smoke screen, but I don't think the Bills have done a lot of that since Buddy Nix was telling anybody who listened that Cordy Glenn was a guard.

So the thing is, if they wanted to smoke screen, they would have formally met with both of them and publicized the meetings. They were the only two NOT listed. But yet Breer specifically used their names only in his report.

[Reed83HOF]

38 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

Interesting to say the least. I'm not super big on trading up for a WR in a class like this, but I know Beane can't help himself sometimes and I imagine the top 3 WRs are all very tempting to him.

 

#14 ahead of Denver seems like the sweet spot if he doesn't care which of the 3 he gets (though there's a chance they're all taken at that point too). #10 ahead of the Jets, Raiders, Colts, and Broncos makes sense if Beane wants to go up and get a specific guy.

 

Edit: To put in perspective what we're talking about in terms of price, Pittsburgh sent #20, #52, and a future 3rd to move up to #10 last year so it would cost something close to a 1, a 2, and a 3 for us. Maybe slightly more than that depending on how high we want to go.

IIRC, in 2017, KC went from 27th to 10th a few years back for 1st & 3rd and NY's RD1 

[HappyDays]

5 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

If Beane trades up for a WR, in this class, I'll lose a lot of faith in his judgement.

 

Why? There is a lot of WR depth but only 3 that everyone agrees are immediate #1 WRs in the NFL. That is the player we need. I mean we need another #2/#3 as well but getting the true #1 is the priority. The way this draft class looks we could trade up for a #1 and still get a depth WR in rounds 4-7. In fact I hope that's exactly what we do.

[Fan in Chicago]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

. The way this draft class looks we could trade up for a #1 and still get a depth WR in rounds 4-7. In fact I hope that's exactly what we do.

I Agree with you about adding two receivers.  If we get one WR in free agency,  then a draft pick in mid to lower rounds could be a TE. I think that between FA and draft,  we will add three. 

Edited March 2, 2020 by Fan in Chicago

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Why? There is a lot of WR depth but only 3 that everyone agrees are immediate #1 WRs in the NFL. That is the player we need. I mean we need another #2/#3 as well but getting the true #1 is the priority. The way this draft class looks we could trade up for a #1 and still get a depth WR in rounds 4-7. In fact I hope that's exactly what we do.

I believe it will be based on their board but if there is enough of a gap between the top guys and the next group, I think they are committed to drafting their cornerstone WR this year and could make a move to do so. If there isn’t a big gap between say Lamb and Mims or Jefferson for example, who will likely be there at 22 they will stay put. But they know by now where they have them rated... now it’s all visits and interviews and private workouts so we watch to see who comes to OBD. 

I guess to me there are some guys you watch play in college, over multiple years with different QBs, and you just know they are going to be some team’s #1 WR in the nfl. Those guys to me were Jeudy and lamb. Not to say other guys can’t be. 

[Uncle Joe]

56 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I have a feeling Bowden is going to go pretty late. Teams will be digging Up some info on him from HS. The value is there, he’s an ok kid. He also punts! I was at this game.

 

 

Yolo, please tell me it was called back for the crackback block.

[BigBuff423]

22 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Why? There is a lot of WR depth but only 3 that everyone agrees are immediate #1 WRs in the NFL. That is the player we need. I mean we need another #2/#3 as well but getting the true #1 is the priority. The way this draft class looks we could trade up for a #1 and still get a depth WR in rounds 4-7. In fact I hope that's exactly what we do.

 

18 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I Agree with you about adding two receivers.  If we get one WR in free agency,  then a draft pick in mid to lower rounds could be a TE. I think that between FA and draft,  we will add three. 

 

12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I believe it will be based on their board but if there is enough of a gap between the top guys and the next group, I think they are committed to drafting their cornerstone WR this year and could make a move to do so. If there isn’t a big gap between say Lamb and Mims or Jefferson for example, who will likely be there at 22 they will stay put. But they know by now where they have them rated... now it’s all visits and interviews and private workouts so we watch to see who comes to OBD. 

I guess to me there are some guys you watch play in college, over multiple years with different QBs, and you just know they are going to be some team’s #1 WR in the nfl. Those guys to me were Jeudy and lamb. Not to say other guys can’t be. 

 

Not to parse out words here, but everyone is essentially saying the same thing, but just question the method by which we arrive to the same outcome. We all know, and obviously the Bills most importantly, that the Bills desperately need a top tier boundary WR. The concern is whether they can do that via FA or trade, or whether they believe that needs to happen via the Draft. 

 

Based on Beane's comments in past interviews, I'd say all of these interviews and exhaustive vetting has to do with contingency plans and preparation. If we're to take Beane's comments on face value, he would say the "needs" get done in FA and then BPA in the Draft. However, if despite all of their best efforts and work they're unable to get a great boundary WR (notice I didn't say #1 b/c I personally don't think that truly exists in the current NFL anymore) via FA or the Draft, THEN I think they sell out and do whatever they think is necessary and possible to get the WR they know Josh Allen needs. 

 

To other people's point, I can see the Bills Drafting 2 WRs if they Draft one early, or if they get their FA / trade WR, Drafting 1 in the mid rounds for depth. 

[PIZ]

1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

If we can't get Kupp I'd take one of either Jeudy, Lamb or Ruggs III!

 

Did I miss something? I thought he was only a FA in 2021?

[YoloinOhio]

31 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

Yolo, please tell me it was called back for the crackback block.

I don’t think so!

[Buffalo Junction]

28 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said:

 

 

 

Not to parse out words here, but everyone is essentially saying the same thing, but just question the method by which we arrive to the same outcome. We all know, and obviously the Bills most importantly, that the Bills desperately need a top tier boundary WR. The concern is whether they can do that via FA or trade, or whether they believe that needs to happen via the Draft. 

 

Based on Beane's comments in past interviews, I'd say all of these interviews and exhaustive vetting has to do with contingency plans and preparation. If we're to take Beane's comments on face value, he would say the "needs" get done in FA and then BPA in the Draft. However, if despite all of their best efforts and work they're unable to get a great boundary WR (notice I didn't say #1 b/c I personally don't think that truly exists in the current NFL anymore) via FA or the Draft, THEN I think they sell out and do whatever they think is necessary and possible to get the WR they know Josh Allen needs. 

 

To other people's point, I can see the Bills Drafting 2 WRs if they Draft one early, or if they get their FA / trade WR, Drafting 1 in the mid rounds for depth. 

I can easily see 2-3 WRs being added. If we’re honest every one except Beasley, Brown, and maybe Edwards are replaceable and upgradable. Considering the WR depth in the draft it’s entirely possible that WR will be BPA at several of Beane’s picks even if he gives up assets to trade up somewhere. 

[SoTier]

52 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Why? There is a lot of WR depth but only 3 that everyone agrees are immediate #1 WRs in the NFL. That is the player we need. I mean we need another #2/#3 as well but getting the true #1 is the priority. The way this draft class looks we could trade up for a #1 and still get a depth WR in rounds 4-7. In fact I hope that's exactly what we do.

 

If the Bills are going to trade up, then I'd prefer they'd do it for one of the top three, and if they don't acquire at least a solid veteran WR in FA, then getting one of the three pro ready kids is even more important.  If they don't get better receivers for Allen for the coming season, when exactly are they going to do so???

[MAJBobby]

Lamb I think had the Combine that he needed to become the First WR taken

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

I have a feeling Bowden is going to go pretty late. Teams will be digging Up some info on him from HS. The value is there, he’s an ok kid. He also punts! I was at this game.

 

 

Wowza, that was a Taysom Hill play all the way

14 minutes ago, PIZ said:

 

Did I miss something? I thought he was only a FA in 2021?

No new deal has been made, clearly undervalued, should trade for him ASAFP!!!!?