T master Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) Okay i thought we could have some fun in trying to put together a Bills dream team but it can only be players that were on a Bills roster in the none play off years so the roster from the yr 2000 season through 2017 . The Bills during the lean yrs had a ton of really good players of which a lot went on to play for other franchise & do very well, some even won a SB or 2 after leaving the Bills but keep your dream team to players that would be on the offensive side, Defensive side, & ST's, players that would be your on field dream team during the coarse of a game not the full 53 man roster . I'll start so you all can mock me & that will give you all a idea what i'm talking about ... Also this is each players best season with the Bills . OL - Jason Peters LT - Ruben Brown LG - E. Woods C - RG - Incognito RT - Langston Walker RB - M. Lynch - L. McCoy - Sam Gash FB WR - E. Moulds - R. Woods - L. Evans - S. Johnson - Goodwin ? TE - J. Riemersma - Scott Chandler ? QB - Fitz - 2012 DL - Mario - Sam Adams - Pat Williams - Hughes/Schobel - Kyle Williams needs to be in here some where . LB - Poz - L. Fletcher - T. Spikes - Kawika Mitchell - I know these aren't to their respective position on the field but there were so many good LB's the Bills have had i could only think of these 4 to possibly field - remember this is for fun only !! CB - Gilmore - T. McGee - Nate Clements - SS - Schultz - FS - J. Byrd Kickers - B. Mormon - S. Christie Well i hope this gives you kind of a idea what i'm talking about ? I think this would be a pretty stout team to put on the field if they had all played at the same time . Sure there are probably some that i have forgotten about but i'm sure you all will tell me exactly where I goofed up & who i forgot to put in there but try & have some fun with it !! After all it is the off season & we need something to keep us busy ... Edited February 13, 2020 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Wasn't this Feliciano's only year here, so he was only on a bills playoff team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Watkins101 said: Wasn't this Feliciano's only year here, so he was only on a bills playoff team? & Nsecke & Hughes made the playoffs Kyle Williams made the playoffs R. Brown made the playoffs Eric Wood made the playoffs Shady made the playoffs Pat Williams made the playoffs Moulds made the playoffs Schultz was in the playoffs I'm fairly certain S. Christie at least had 1 kick in the playoffs - unless I am forgetting Edited February 12, 2020 by Reed83HOF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I will think about my list before i post But @T master Reuben Brown , Eric moulds and Reimersma all made playoffs off top of head 6 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: & Nsecke & Hughes made the playoffs Kyle Williams made the playoffs R. Brown made the playoffs Eric Wood made the playoffs Shady made the playoffs Pat Williams made the playoffs Moulds made the playoffs Schultz was in the playoffs I'm fairly certain S. Christie at least had 1 kick in the playoffs - unless I am forgetting Christie absolutely made the playoffs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Step 1: create rules. Step 2: instantly fail to follow self made rules. Step 3: flourish. 3 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Easy Answer: The 2014 Bills team but with Bledsoe at QB. Done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I will think about my list before i post But @T master Reuben Brown , Eric moulds and Reimersma all made playoffs off top of head Christie absolutely made the playoffs I know that was the first one I saw and I had to keep editing to add more and more to my response 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, T master said: OL - Cordy Glenn LT - Ruben Brown LG - E. Woods C -Incognito RG Jason Peters- RT - RB - M. Lynch - Fred Jackson -Spiller (2012 3rd down back) Larry CentersFB WR - E. Moulds - Sammy (rookie year) - L. Evans - S. Johnson - Peerless Price TE - J. Riemersma - Charles Clay QB - Fitz - 2012 Or Kyle Orton DL - Mario - Dareus - Kyle Williams - Pat Williams - Hughes- LB - Manny Lawson - London Fletcher- Zach Brown, Nigel Bradham CB - Gilmore - T. McGee - Nate Clements - Winfield SS - Aaron Williams - FS - J. Byrd Lawyer Milloy Kickers - B. Mormon - Lindell? Edited February 12, 2020 by warrior9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Watkins101 said: Wasn't this Feliciano's only year here, so he was only on a bills playoff team? Your right sorry my bad !! Just couldn't think of a good RG ... For that matter Nsecke too ? 15 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: & Nsecke & Hughes made the playoffs Kyle Williams made the playoffs R. Brown made the playoffs Eric Wood made the playoffs Shady made the playoffs Pat Williams made the playoffs Moulds made the playoffs Schultz was in the playoffs I'm fairly certain S. Christie at least had 1 kick in the playoffs - unless I am forgetting From 2000 to 2017 ?? You didn't read the post . Edited February 12, 2020 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I will think about my list before i post But @T master Reuben Brown , Eric moulds and Reimersma all made playoffs off top of head Christie absolutely made the playoffs From the years of the 2000 season to the 2017 season Okay screwed up with including of Feliciano & Nsecke !! I believe all the other players were on the Bills squad between the years i mentioned in the original post !! Reuben played with the Bills from 1995 till 2003 which okay he made the play offs but i am specifically talking about team members that were on the Bills during the play off drout seasons which is 2000 season to 2017 of which i believe all players besides my goof were on those teams . Which is the same for the others you mentioned . Edited February 12, 2020 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Why would you include players who made the playoffs with the team, but then were with the team and the roster churning that started the drought? It makes no sense and is generally pointless. They are still playoff players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, T master said: From the years of the 2000 season to the 2017 season Okay screwed up with including of Feliciano & Nsecke !! I believe all the other players were on the Bills squad between the years i mentioned in the original post !! Reuben played with the Bills from 1995 till 2003 which okay he made the play offs but i am specifically talking about team members that were on the Bills during the play off drout seasons which is 2000 season to 2017 of which i believe all players besides my goof were on those teams . Which is the same for the others you mentioned . Not rippin ya! And maybe it should've been DROUGHT ONLY players , players who came to buffalo in 2000 and later To clear up some confusion for people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Why would you include players who made the playoffs with the team, but then were with the team and the roster churning that started the drought? It makes no sense and is generally pointless. They are still playoff players Okay . The heading says "Build Your Bills Dream Team From None Play Off Years" Not None play off players, so what i meant was take ALL the players from the years that the Bills "Didn't" make the play offs during the drought last play off appearance being 1999, drought beginning the 2000 season till the 2017 season . I thought it was self explanatory but i guess i was wrong in my thinking, i'm sorry if the heading & the first line of my post didn't lay out the parameter's for this attempt at a "FUN" post i will try to do better next time . 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Not rippin ya! And maybe it should've been DROUGHT ONLY players , players who came to buffalo in 2000 and later To clear up some confusion for people Thanks for your understanding i thought in my first sentence in the post that that is what i wrote as part of laying out my thought please re read if i can change it to make it more understandable i will i was just trying to make it a easy/fun type of post . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, T master said: Okay . The heading says "Build Your Bills Dream Team From None Play Off Years" Not None play off players, so what i meant was take ALL the players from the years that the Bills "Didn't" make the play offs during the drought last play off appearance being 1999, drought beginning the 2000 season till the 2017 season . I thought it was self explanatory but i guess i was wrong in my thinking, i'm sorry if the heading & the first line of my post didn't lay out the parameter's for this attempt at a "FUN" post i will try to do better next time . I understood that, but you included Feliciano and this was his only year here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Watkins101 said: I understood that, but you included Feliciano and this was his only year here. Got you & that was me in a DUH moment of which i do have from time to time please excuse it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Those were the days.....those NONE playoff years! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Bledsoe???? Ugh. I'd take Fitz over Bledsoe any day.... hell even Orton. Ah, maybe Fitz. But Orton was the QB of that team, and I was trying to think of an upgrade. And for his first year here, Bledsoe is an upgrade. Maybe not 2003 Drew, and definitely not 2004 Drew. But 2002 Drew was pretty good. 22 minutes ago, T master said: Okay . The heading says "Build Your Bills Dream Team From None Play Off Years" Not None play off players, so what i meant was take ALL the players from the years that the Bills "Didn't" make the play offs during the drought last play off appearance being 1999, drought beginning the 2000 season till the 2017 season . I thought it was self explanatory but i guess i was wrong in my thinking, i'm sorry if the heading & the first line of my post didn't lay out the parameter's for this attempt at a "FUN" post i will try to do better next time . Thanks for your understanding i thought in my first sentence in the post that that is what i wrote as part of laying out my thought please re read if i can change it to make it more understandable i will i was just trying to make it a easy/fun type of post . Just when I thought you'd never be able to top how foolish you made yourself look from your last thread with your paragraph about younger generations... You go and give us this gem of a thread. Congrats! ? Edited February 12, 2020 by DrDawkinstein 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Step 1: create rules. Step 2: instantly fail to follow self made rules. Step 3: flourish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) This is hard for those not starting a playoff game for the Bills so....... Offense - QB - 2002 Bledsoe RB - Lynch, Jackson WR - Evans, Stevie J, TO TE - Chandler LT - Peters LG - Levitre C - Teague (sigh) RG - Urbik (yuck) RT - Glenn (I'm moving him to RT - didn't play against Jags in playoffs) Defense - DE - Williams, Schobel DT - Dareus, Adams LB - Spikes, Fletcher, Bradham CB - McGee, Clements S - Byrd, A. Williams (you could make the case for Milloy) P - Moorman K - Carpenter KR - McGee PR - Parrish I'm sure I missed a few in there. Edited February 12, 2020 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Christie and Kurt Scultz went to two Super Bowls. Come on man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: I'm fairly certain S. Christie at least had 1 kick in the playoffs - unless I am forgetting Two small games known as “the greatest comeback in NFL history” and the “forward lateral playoff game” come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 What a waste of brain matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: & Nsecke & Hughes made the playoffs Kyle Williams made the playoffs R. Brown made the playoffs Eric Wood made the playoffs Shady made the playoffs Pat Williams made the playoffs Moulds made the playoffs Schultz was in the playoffs I'm fairly certain S. Christie at least had 1 kick in the playoffs - unless I am forgetting Christie was in the SuperBowl and still holds the record for longest SuperBowl FG at 54 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said: This is hard for those not starting a playoff game for the Bills so....... Offense - QB - 2002 Bledsoe RB - Lynch, Jackson WR - Evans, Stevie J, TO TE - Chandler LT - Peters LG - Levitre C - Teague (sigh) RG - Urbik (yuck) RT - Glenn (I'm moving him to RT - didn't play against Jags in playoffs) Defense - DE - Williams, Schobel DT - Dareus, Adams LB - Spikes, Fletcher, Bradham CB - McGee, Clements S - Byrd, A. Williams (you could make the case for Milloy) P - Moorman K - Carpenter KR - McGee PR - Parrish I'm sure I missed a few in there. This is excellent work. Very nicely done. I would put Milloy over Williams as a true SS. Maybe add Sam Gash as a FB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: This is excellent work. Very nicely done. I would put Milloy over Williams as a true SS. Maybe add Sam Gash as a FB? Thanks. Center was the one I struggled with the most just remembering who we had. Williams had that four pick season at safety that stuck out in my mind but you're pry right that Milloy was better overall in his three years here. I forgot about fullback but Gash played in a playoff game for us. So, it's down between Larry Centers and Jerome Felton. I'd go with Centers even though he was only here a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Easy Answer: The 2014 Bills team but with Bledsoe at QB. Done. I want to argue but then I thought-have we made the playoffs with every competent QB we have ever had? Wow that is depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Why would you include players who made the playoffs with the team, but then were with the team and the roster churning that started the drought? It makes no sense and is generally pointless. They are still playoff players 11 hours ago, T master said: Your right sorry my bad !! Just couldn't think of a good RG ... For that matter Nsecke too ? From 2000 to 2017 ?? You didn't read the post . Your thread title is ambiguous. Taking your challenge literally, we can make a HOF roster from players who missed the playoffs at some time in their Bills career. DE: B. Smith, R. McDole DT: T. Sestak, T. Washington LB: C. Bennett, M. Stratton, H. Jacobs, D. Talley CB: R. James, G.’Butch’ Byrd S: G. Saimes, T. Greene C K. Hull G: B. Shaw, J. Delamiellure T: W. Wilford, H. Ballard TE: E. Warlick WR: E. Dubenion, A. Reed RB: OJ Simpson, T.Thomas QB: J. Kelly P: P. McQuire PK: P. Gogalak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 hours ago, T master said: Okay i thought we could have some fun in trying to put together a Bills dream team but it can only be players that were on a Bills roster in the none play off years so the roster from the yr 2000 season through 2017 . The Bills during the lean yrs had a ton of really good players of which a lot went on to play for other franchise & do very well, some even won a SB or 2 after leaving the Bills but keep your dream team to players that would be on the offensive side, Defensive side, & ST's, players that would be your on field dream team during the coarse of a game not the full 53 man roster . I'll start so you all can mock me & that will give you all a idea what i'm talking about ... Also this is each players best season with the Bills . OL - Jason Peters LT - Ruben Brown LG - E. Woods C - RG - Incognito RT - Langston Walker RB - M. Lynch - L. McCoy - Sam Gash FB WR - E. Moulds - R. Woods - L. Evans - S. Johnson - Goodwin ? TE - J. Riemersma - Scott Chandler ? QB - Fitz - 2012 DL - Mario - Sam Adams - Pat Williams - Hughes/Schobel - Kyle Williams needs to be in here some where . LB - Poz - L. Fletcher - T. Spikes - Kawika Mitchell - I know these aren't to their respective position on the field but there were so many good LB's the Bills have had i could only think of these 4 to possibly field - remember this is for fun only !! CB - Gilmore - T. McGee - Nate Clements - SS - Schultz - FS - J. Byrd Kickers - B. Mormon - S. Christie Well i hope this gives you kind of a idea what i'm talking about ? I think this would be a pretty stout team to put on the field if they had all played at the same time . Sure there are probably some that i have forgotten about but i'm sure you all will tell me exactly where I goofed up & who i forgot to put in there but try & have some fun with it !! After all it is the off season & we need something to keep us busy ... Well Allen was on a non playoff team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, T master said: RT - Langston Walker TE - J. Riemersma - WOW!!!!! Langston Walker was as bad as it gets. The only reason I have seen worse blockers in the NFL is because I'm a Bills fan. Walker couldn't get out of his stance until rushers were already by him. He was awful in run blocking and his lack of balance caused him to get tipped over by defenders at times. Other than the above he was fairly decent. Riemersma was a slow possession type receiver with bad hands. I have seen other posts throughout the years claiming that he was good and could never understand why. Believe it or not, Jonas Jennings was a fine RT for the Bills. Naturally they let him walk in free agency but iirc, he left for the 49ers (for a big contract) and didn't play well. I don't remember whether or not it was due to injury. Edited February 13, 2020 by Bill from NYC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) I'll take 2011 Fred Jackson (pre broken leg) over LeShady. Edited February 13, 2020 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Believe it or not, Jonas Jennings was a fine RT for the Bills. Naturally they let him walk in free agency but iirc, he left for the 49ers (for a big contract) and didn't play well. I don't remember whether or not it was due to injury. On October 4, 2007 Jonas Jennings took a leave of absence from the San Francisco 49ers to deal with 'private matters'. He was replaced by Adam Snyder for the week 5 game against the Baltimore Ravens. It was announced the week after that he will rejoin the team as the starter at LT, but during the next game against the New York Giants he split time with his backup Adam Snyder. Jennings sustained a high ankle sprain in the second quarter of the 49ers' loss to the Giants on October 21 and missed the subsequent two games. On November 5 he was placed on Injured Reserve; coach Mike Nolan stated that Jennings was to undergo surgery to remove "loose bodies" in his ankle, effectively ending his 2007-2008 season. The 49ers brought Jennings back for the 2008 NFL season but did not guarantee him a starting position. During the 2008 season Jennings continued his injury-stricken career as a 49er when he injured his right shoulder. Although he insisted on remaining on the sideline as an emergency backup, ultimately he was placed on injured reserve to undergo his 3rd shoulder surgery. Jennings was released by the 49ers on March 27, 2009.[2][3] 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 18 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Just when I thought you'd never be able to top how foolish you made yourself look from your last thread with your paragraph about younger generations... You go and give us this gem of a thread. Congrats! ? @T master, I came back here this morning to say this probably came off much harsher than I meant due to hastily posting from mobile so my bad. But your meltdown on my profile is so hilarious that I'm going to stand by my original post. I still love you tho. Go Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 19 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: & Nsecke & Hughes made the playoffs Kyle Williams made the playoffs R. Brown made the playoffs Eric Wood made the playoffs Shady made the playoffs Pat Williams made the playoffs Moulds made the playoffs Schultz was in the playoffs I'm fairly certain S. Christie at least had 1 kick in the playoffs - unless I am forgetting Christie had or has the longest FG in Super Bowl history, heck he got the game winner in the Comeback game so yes, he was in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Christie had or has the longest FG in Super Bowl history, heck he got the game winner in the Comeback game so yes, he was in the playoffs. It was a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I really like the topic but about half of the guys named were in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Not one person mentioned JP Losman Edited February 13, 2020 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: This is excellent work. Very nicely done. I would put Milloy over Williams as a true SS. Maybe add Sam Gash as a FB? Larry Centers was probably the best fullback we've ever had and he was only here for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 17 hours ago, Doc Brown said: This is hard for those not starting a playoff game for the Bills so....... Offense - QB - 2002 Bledsoe RB - Lynch, Jackson WR - Evans, Stevie J, TO TE - Chandler LT - Peters LG - Levitre C - Teague (sigh) RG - Urbik (yuck) RT - Glenn (I'm moving him to RT - didn't play against Jags in playoffs) Defense - DE - Williams, Schobel DT - Dareus, Adams LB - Spikes, Fletcher, Bradham CB - McGee, Clements S - Byrd, A. Williams (you could make the case for Milloy) P - Moorman K - Carpenter KR - McGee PR - Parrish I'm sure I missed a few in there. Nice work here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Give me the 2004 defense and the 2015 offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Wow, looking at the interior o-line and tight ends from these list is depressing. Not to derail the topic, but has TE been our historically worst position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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