ALF Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 During his press conference to acquire the team, Terry Pegula stated, "we will gradually proceed to plan and design a stadium for the Buffalo Bills." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: So make a stadium with nothing but corporate suites, that sounds like fun . Yuck. I was invited to a box in Pittsburgh this year to see Bills win. Nice to have the amenities right there, but once is enough. I guess I prefer being a commoner? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said: He is speaking for the owners - his job as he did in SD, STL, Oak, etc - was to get in front and be the bad guy - warn those cities about what the owners want and put a threat of a move out there if they do not get it. His job is not to make you feel good. Notice how right afterward we hear the study is complete and they will be releasing it in the next few months - of course it is done - it falls right in the time frame Roger mentioned - coincidence? Nope! They already knew the outcome - now it is Roger’s job to sound the alarm and be bad - put out a move, lack of competition, etc. and then let the Pegula’s be the good cop and ask nice and move toward a public/private partnership to give them exactly what they want. bull#### If the study is done you leave it to the OWNERS to speak about it, the team owners. Roger is a Jamestown POS, zero class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: So make a stadium with nothing but corporate suites, that sounds like fun . If an owner could do that, I'm sure they would love to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Vic Carucci @viccarucci The #NFL no longer seems to be pushing for a new stadium for the #Bills. A "significant renovation' of New Era Field is also acceptable to the league, per Commissioner Roger Goodell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, Cruiserplayer said: Vic Carucci @viccarucci The #NFL no longer seems to be pushing for a new stadium for the #Bills. A "significant renovation' of New Era Field is also acceptable to the league, per Commissioner Roger Goodell. I think that's always been the case, it's either new stadium, or major renovations to the existing one, similar to GB, KC, CHI, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 good reno the stadium and we're all good like what the chiefs did. solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Well the Pegulas just told Erie County they will not exercise their out of the stadium lease in July 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 somewhere... in a WNY gravel pit there are plain, ordinary pebbles that have existed for millennia as nothing more than sediment But SOON they will have the honor of serving as aggregate for the concrete that will form the backbone of the new Bills stadium, and these pebbles will be witness to GLORY! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I wonder how much of an upgrade they’d deem acceptable, I’d imagine it would take longer than an off-season. And if that were the case where would we play? Toronto? UB is too small. Carrier dome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 significant renovation = slap some paint on the concourse walls and upgrade the fixtures in the restrooms. I’m down with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 9 hours ago, Ga boy said: Yuck. I was invited to a box in Pittsburgh this year to see Bills win. Nice to have the amenities right there, but once is enough. I guess I prefer being a commoner? Yeah, it's a totally different experience being outside at a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, RiotAct said: significant renovation = slap some paint on the concourse walls and upgrade the fixtures in the restrooms. I’m down with that. Well they have already done that....... I would think with them not opting out of the lease they plan on renovating, and depending on the extent and proposed work, could try and do it in phases to not interrupt the team playing there. Or they could cut a deal to play in a nearby venue (Toronto isn't using the Dome for football anymore, Argos play in an MLS stadium, Hamilton has a brand new CFL stadium, Rochester has a dome). Size might not be an issue if the league agrees it's only for a short period, similar to the agreement to allow the Chargers to play in a tiny field til the new stadium is ready. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. WEO Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: bull#### If the study is done you leave it to the OWNERS to speak about it, the team owners. Roger is a Jamestown POS, zero class. You still can't understand how this works...when Goodell speaks, the owners are speaking? How many more years does he have to be Commissioner before you get that? 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: No surprise there. Cuomo likely told himhtere ain't no bag o' cash coming from the State for a new stadium. Pegula, therefore, is taking the less expensive route. Nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 11:47 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: The Bills have to fix their stadium to his standards or what? He'll force us to move to Toronto? He'll stop scheduling home games? He'll hold his face until he turns blue? I mean, what happens if the Bills extend their current lease at New Era with only modest renovations? Education please grreat question.Would Goodell try to impeach pegula?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: You still can't understand how this works...when Goodell speaks, the owners are speaking? How many more years does he have to be Commissioner before you get that? No surprise there. Cuomo likely told himhtere ain't no bag o' cash coming from the State for a new stadium. Pegula, therefore, is taking the less expensive route. Nothing wrong with that. Then Jerrah and HJ Bob can STFU. Is that better? Someone as pedantic as yourself should understand shoot the messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 42 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Then Jerrah and HJ Bob can STFU. Is that better? Someone as pedantic as yourself should understand shoot the messenger. Translation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 this just buys the pegulas a little time opening date for new downtown stadium is 2030 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I haven’t been to a bills game at new era/Ralph in quite a long time. But I have been to a lot of current stadiums and I know fans love new era however it’s not even as nice as some college stadiums. It is long overdue to build a new one. I see the pros and cons from both sides and it makes sense from both sides but it needs to be done. I hate to see ticket prices increase and food etc etc but it’s long overdue to happen. My opinion doesn’t count as much, I’m no longer living in New York, paying taxes, going to games so I fully sympathize for those it affects long term. I always liked the idea of a retractable roof stadium. And in certain cold weather opening the roof for the hometown “advantage” Long time ago I wanted it moved outside Lewiston. From what I hear that area is now much more populated and doesn’t sound like it could survive the traffic. I can’t blame the league for pressuring for something to happen though. Pegulas can do whatever they want but long term a new stadium is better than doing more renovating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Translation? Stop assuming people are beneath you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 17 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: If an owner could do that, I'm sure they would love to. Dont you worry Jerruh has it in the works 19 hours ago, Ga boy said: Yuck. I was invited to a box in Pittsburgh this year to see Bills win. Nice to have the amenities right there, but once is enough. I guess I prefer being a commoner? i want to be right down on the field as close to the action as possible, the richies can have the suites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 On 1/31/2020 at 4:31 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said: So make a stadium with nothing but corporate suites, that sounds like fun . Actually if a team did that they need to share no revenue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I’ll say it again: not a single ***damn red cent of taxpayer money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, RiotAct said: I’ll say it again: not a single ***damn red cent of taxpayer money. Sure, Mr. Governor.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 After the costs to federal, state and local governments associated with coronavirus and a likely shifting of future priorities to things that most would consider more essential than a stadium, does anyone see a dollar of taxpayer funds going to a new or refurbished stadium? Prior to all this I wouldn’t have objected but can’t imagine it happening now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Well maybe if it had capability to be converted to hospital care area. Some stadiums have been used for that in past disasters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Well maybe if it had capability to be converted to hospital care area. Some stadiums have been used for that in past disasters. That’s precisely one of the little-spoken-of reasons for putting some public funds into large capacity stadiums. e.g. how the Superdome was used in Katrina, for all its horrible anecdotes. If large numbers of people need to be gathered together for mass inoculation, quarantined together, or to have a stadium complex serve as a large staging area, that’s a consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Luxury boxes can double as an ICU. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Some cities have severe parking issues and I rarely see stadiums being used for car pools. An example is current Washington stadium in Maryland is right off beltway and would be a great place for car pools and mass transit but isn't. I understand in many cases teams are leasing from stadium authorities at rock bottom prices but if public money is used for stadium, parking lot or infrastructure public officials / officers need to insist it be available for public transit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Luxury boxes can double as an ICU. they need to, given they are usually occupied by really rich old dudes anyway Edited March 27, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 14 hours ago, UConn James said: That’s precisely one of the little-spoken-of reasons for putting some public funds into large capacity stadiums. e.g. how the Superdome was used in Katrina, for all its horrible anecdotes. If large numbers of people need to be gathered together for mass inoculation, quarantined together, or to have a stadium complex serve as a large staging area, that’s a consideration. They could do that at an existing stadium. But it’s so unlikely that no municipality would consider it when deciding on funding a football stadium. 14 hours ago, Limeaid said: Some cities have severe parking issues and I rarely see stadiums being used for car pools. An example is current Washington stadium in Maryland is right off beltway and would be a great place for car pools and mass transit but isn't. I understand in many cases teams are leasing from stadium authorities at rock bottom prices but if public money is used for stadium, parking lot or infrastructure public officials / officers need to insist it be available for public transit. If the demand for that existed, it would happen as there would be money to be made. Also, if the demand was there, it would obviously be far cheaper for a city to create a parking lot for transit pooling than to fund a stadium . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: They could do that at an existing stadium. But it’s so unlikely that no municipality would consider it when deciding on funding a football stadium. If the demand for that existed, it would happen as there would be money to be made. Also, if the demand was there, it would obviously be far cheaper for a city to create a parking lot for transit pooling than to fund a stadium . Not the best timing for this subject but since somebody else uncovered it.............. I think that the state of NY is out of the conversation but a stadium might prove a good idea for a federally generated stimulus project if the economy lags into next year with the outlook being gloomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Not the best timing for this subject but since somebody else uncovered it.............. I think that the state of NY is out of the conversation but a stadium might prove a good idea for a federally generated stimulus project if the economy lags into next year with the outlook being gloomy. Publicly funded stadiums (from any source) have proven over and over to not be economic stimuli. It's probably the worst use of money in such an scenario. It would essentially be a publicly funded monument to a billionaire owner who could afford to build it with cash on hand...if he wanted to. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Publicly funded stadiums (from any source) have proven over and over to not be economic stimuli. It's probably the worst use of money in such an scenario. It would essentially be a publicly funded monument to a billionaire owner who could afford to build it with cash on hand...if he wanted to. Petco Park in San Diego has proven that wrong f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Publicly funded stadiums (from any source) have proven over and over to not be economic stimuli. It's probably the worst use of money in such an scenario. It would essentially be a publicly funded monument to a billionaire owner who could afford to build it with cash on hand...if he wanted to. Let me clarify what I said. The stimulus would be in creating construction jobs and allied professions. I am not saying that I personally favor it but I know I am only one voice in the forest and that many here seek government funding. I also question any post completion stimulus in terms of neighborhood bars and restaurants popping up. One reason to me that a clean slate project should be the way to go if not done in OP where the utilities and roadways are pretty much in place. Pay some farmer who is ready to retire out in Clarence 10,000 dollars per acre for 200 acres which will be far cheaper than coming up with 10's of millions to buy off Buffalo politicians, activist groups, lawyers, etc just to rehab some crap property in or near the city limits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 hours ago, uticaclub said: Petco Park in San Diego has proven that wrong f Buffalo isn't San Diego before Petco Park.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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