ILBillsfan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 The two Browns helping out their QB's in the games tonight with some amazing catches. Love Brown and Beasley but this is what the Bills WR's need to start doing for Josh. Please Beane get Allen a guy who makes plays in the passing game for the QB. 7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ILBillsfan said: The two Browns helping out their QB's in the games tonight with some amazing catches. Love Brown and Beasley but this is what the Bills WR's need to start doing for Josh. Please Beane get Allen a guy who makes plays in the passing game for the QB. This is why people were shocked that Duke Williams had so many targets in the one game he was actually on the field a lot. Josh went to him when WR's were covered because he is the only one capable of making a contested catch. Beasley isnt out fighting anyone for the ball, Brown only can on underthrown deep balls when he is first to break back on it. I think Brown can be a number as far as target and play priority... but we need a bigger body guy (not necessarily some 6' 5" giant), who will be physical enough to feel comfortable making a play if everyone is covered. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, PolishPrince said: This is why people were shocked that Duke Williams had so many targets in the one game he was actually on the field a lot. Josh went to him when WR's were covered because he is the only one capable of making a contested catch. Beasley isnt out fighting anyone for the ball, Brown only can on underthrown deep balls when he is first to break back on it. I think Brown can be a number as far as target and play priority... but we need a bigger body guy (not necessarily some 6' 5" giant), who will be physical enough to feel comfortable making a play if everyone is covered. and Duke ended up catching 4 of 10 targets. Marquise Brown is 5’9”. AJ Brown is 6’1”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Would love to see the Bucs go the Dolphins route and make Evans available for a 2nd or 3rd round pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 How are the WR's supposed to help out Josh when he's running around in the backfield like he's on meth..........no one has any clue what he's doing back there and when or even if he's going to throw the ball...........more than likely, he'll just run with it and probably fumble it anyway, but....... The dudes just flying by the seat of his pants back there and trying to improvise on every play and people are wondering why the WR's aren't helping him out more? Wow........just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sweats said: How are the WR's supposed to help out Josh when he's running around in the backfield like he's on meth..........no one has any clue what he's doing back there and when or even if he's going to throw the ball...........more than likely, he'll just run with it and probably fumble it anyway, but....... The dudes just flying by the seat of his pants back there and trying to improvise on every play and people are wondering why the WR's aren't helping him out more? Wow........just wow. All the lols. Looks like someone doesn't know what he's talking about. 9 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sweats said: How are the WR's supposed to help out Josh when he's running around in the backfield like he's on meth... Between your statement and avatar, I almost think you’re conducting a guerilla marketing campaign. ?? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Sweats said: How are the WR's supposed to help out Josh when he's running around in the backfield like he's on meth..........no one has any clue what he's doing back there and when or even if he's going to throw the ball...........more than likely, he'll just run with it and probably fumble it anyway, but....... The dudes just flying by the seat of his pants back there and trying to improvise on every play and people are wondering why the WR's aren't helping him out more? Wow........just wow. Wow match this with your Tennessee take - nice troll job. Unreal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 hours ago, ILBillsfan said: The two Browns helping out their QB's in the games tonight with some amazing catches. Love Brown and Beasley but this is what the Bills WR's need to start doing for Josh. Please Beane get Allen a guy who makes plays in the passing game for the QB. I agree, we need our guys to make more plays. When I say our guys I'm also including the QB. He can't be as inconsistent as he's shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Pretty clear that the media has ceded the word 'inaccurate' to Josh. For other QB's it's 'a little behind' or 'a little high'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Sweats said: How are the WR's supposed to help out Josh when he's running around in the backfield like he's on meth..........no one has any clue what he's doing back there and when or even if he's going to throw the ball...........more than likely, he'll just run with it and probably fumble it anyway, but....... The dudes just flying by the seat of his pants back there and trying to improvise on every play and people are wondering why the WR's aren't helping him out more? Wow........just wow. Dumb and inaccurate, but thanks for playing anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Sweats said: How are the WR's supposed to help out Josh when he's running around in the backfield like he's on meth..........no one has any clue what he's doing back there and when or even if he's going to throw the ball...........more than likely, he'll just run with it and probably fumble it anyway, but....... The dudes just flying by the seat of his pants back there and trying to improvise on every play and people are wondering why the WR's aren't helping him out more? Wow........just wow. Heisenberg would be disappointed in your assessment. Shame on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 6 hours ago, ILBillsfan said: The two Browns helping out their QB's in the games tonight with some amazing catches. Love Brown and Beasley but this is what the Bills WR's need to start doing for Josh. Please Beane get Allen a guy who makes plays in the passing game for the QB. I think Sean and Beane are at fault for not getting Josh a true #1, Brown and Beasley are #3 WR'S on most teams. The fact is this team had a very easy schedule and lost against the good teams during the regular season, if they don't bring play makers in next season then i could see them not even making the playoffs. Both Metcalf & Brown for the Titans were available to the Bills and they chose to go with Ford who could not even start on every down. Sean thinks you can win games kicking FG'S and it cost them against the Texans. The sad thing is this season was wide open for anyone to win and that may not be the case next year. I did not like hearing Beane & Sean talk about not being active in free agency despite having 90 mill in cap space and they would prefer to take care of their own. Paying what you have more is not going to make you better, you need to bring in play makers on both sides of the ball if you expect to not only make the playoffs but win in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Every team needs WRs that intuitively make plays on the ball, and can work with the QB during every passing play, more than speed is needed in a wideout, or every receiver for that matter, not that speed hurts ? but look at Foster, speed without cognitive ability is pretty much worthless, I will assume The Beanster , and SM realize this, and in year 3/4 for these guys they get two of such WRs for next season, and teach the current gang that it’s really important to catch the G D ball. Just sayin, Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Conlan58 said: Would love to see the Bucs go the Dolphins route and make Evans available for a 2nd or 3rd round pick... More like a first and second, if not two firsts... either way, I’d pay out happily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Conlan58 said: Would love to see the Bucs go the Dolphins route and make Evans available for a 2nd or 3rd round pick... That will never happen, but he is awesome. There is no way Arians is giving up a weapon like that. I’ve been watching him for years as I live here. Basically two TV’s. The larger one is for the Bills, and the smaller was the Bucs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, whatdrought said: More like a first and second, if not two firsts... either way, I’d pay out happily. I'd just draft this guy and be done with it. Same exact body type and style of player as Mike Evans. He will also probably put up numbers similar to Evans at the combine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 We all knew “the process”.. Getting Josh playmakers was always going to be this offseason. I have faith Beane comes through. ....:but man, do I have a bad taste in my mouth for the play of our WRs after watching these playoffs. It couldn’t be more obvious that we need 1, probably 2, upgrades at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: We all knew “the process”.. Getting Josh playmakers was always going to be this offseason. I have faith Beane comes through. ....:but man, do I have a bad taste in my mouth for the play of our WRs after watching these playoffs. It couldn’t be more obvious that we need 1, probably 2, upgrades at WR. I'm with you. Without having to create an entirely competent offense this offseason it will be interesting to see how Beane handles business and what talent he can surround Josh with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Part 1: AJ Green Austin Hooper Breshad Perriman Hunter Henry Part 2: Laviska Shenault Tee Higgins Justin Jefferson Give me one guy from each part and I think this team will be a completely different animal next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Every NFL game I watch I see receivers make catches that I NEVER see the Bill's receivers make. Last night was no different. Not sure why anyone sober would even argue the point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Yesterday we saw bad drops AND amazing catches. Of course fans here forget the drops ha ha. But yeah, I too couldn't help but feel some envy at the inaccurate throws or hard to catch passes that were caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: and Duke ended up catching 4 of 10 targets. Marquise Brown is 5’9”. AJ Brown is 6’1”. 2 of those targets were clear throwaways at the end of regulation because Houston was playnig cover 2 vs Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Every NFL game I watch I see receivers make catches that I NEVER see the Bill's receivers make. Last night was no different. Not sure why anyone sober would even argue the point. Not true. There's not enough of them and that's fact but to say never? Knox had drops but some amazing catches too, Brown had some as well. Beasley will always be more a guy that gets open fast in the middle than a contested ball catcher and that's fine... as long as others step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: and Duke ended up catching 4 of 10 targets. Marquise Brown is 5’9”. AJ Brown is 6’1”. Actually he caught 5. Not his fault one was called back on a bs penalty. And it was a huge catch called back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Duke deserves a chance. He was the #1 WR vs the Jets yet still open all game. And was targeted a lot in the playoff game. Is he the answer? Maybe not but McKenzie and Foster have not exactly over delivered as WR. Good on end around and ST though. Damn it's not easy for Beane and McD ha ha. It's so complex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Meatloaf63 said: Dumb and inaccurate, but thanks for playing anyways. It is completely dumb and inaccurate.........our QB never runs around in the backfield like a chicken with its head cut off, he also never fumbles the ball and our WR's always know what's going on. ...........................rolls eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Haaaaa 8 more months of Josh haters pouring it on LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Not true. There's not enough of them and that's fact but to say never? Knox had drops but some amazing catches too, Brown had some as well. Beasley will always be more a guy that gets open fast in the middle than a contested ball catcher and that's fine... as long as others step up. Maybe never is to extreme how about ALMOST never. I will concede that Knox made a great contested catch against the Pats and his one handed catch against the Ravens, on a ball that Allen literally PLACED on his bicep, was sweet. But that's it. Brown had a lot of nice solid catches but I don't recall anything special. Ditto for Beasley, Duke, Foster, McKenzie, Singleterry, Gore, DeMarco, Kroft, Roberts & Smith. Did you see the catch the TN guy made for the TD last night? Or the catch the Ravens TE made for his TD? Other then the one handed catch of a perfectly placed Allen throw by Knox did a Bills receiver make even one play where the spectacular nature of the CATCH was an ESPN highlight? Edited January 12, 2020 by CincyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sweats said: It is completely dumb and inaccurate.........our QB never runs around in the backfield like a chicken with its head cut off, he also never fumbles the ball and our WR's always know what's going on. ...........................rolls eyes. Oooh you got me. There is a reason our Qb Runs and it’s often because we can’t block to save our lives, and or our receivers can’t get separation. There is a reason why Duke came in and instantly got 10 targets, our Smurfs don’t get open with regularity. You want to blame this all on Allen, you see the symptoms but don’t have the ability to see the cause. My 6 year old daughter loved to roll her eyes too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sweats said: It is completely dumb and inaccurate.........our QB never runs around in the backfield like a chicken with its head cut off, he also never fumbles the ball and our WR's always know what's going on. ...........................rolls eyes. You must be a huge Wizard of Oz fan what with all the straw men you keep throwing out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Sweats said: How are the WR's supposed to help out Josh when he's running around in the backfield like he's on meth..........no one has any clue what he's doing back there and when or even if he's going to throw the ball...........more than likely, he'll just run with it and probably fumble it anyway, but....... The dudes just flying by the seat of his pants back there and trying to improvise on every play and people are wondering why the WR's aren't helping him out more? Wow........just wow. that’s a bit harsh. There’s been breakdowns at times this past season, but Allen put together some long stretches of pretty mistake-free football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: and Duke ended up catching 4 of 10 targets. Marquise Brown is 5’9”. AJ Brown is 6’1”. And? This is not a pro Duke post... it’s a we need a bigger target to help josh post..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: And? This is not a pro Duke post... it’s a we need a bigger target to help josh post..... “Bigger” doesn’t necessarily mean better though - the OP mentioned brown and brown. Marquise is downright small and he had the biggest day of any wideout in that game yesterday. AJ is about average in height for wideouts, maybe a tick above average. Getting some monstrous WR in here could well help, but I’d rather just go with a great receiver, regardless of height. And Josh is going to have to learn to help himself one of these years if he wants to be great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: “Bigger” doesn’t necessarily mean better though - the OP mentioned brown and brown. Marquise is downright small and he had the biggest day of any wideout in that game yesterday. AJ is about average in height for wideouts, maybe a tick above average. Getting some monstrous WR in here could well help, but I’d rather just go with a great receiver, regardless of height. And Josh is going to have to learn to help himself one of these years if he wants to be great. I don’t think you understand my origins post at all.... it was simply that josh doesn’t trust his receivers make contested catches, but once a bigger physical WR was in the game, in Duke. He looked to throw to him if people were covered. im not sure what or why you are trying to battle me on this. It’s not a pro or anti josh post. It’s not a pro or anti Duke post... it was simply an observation on Josh’s comfort level when receivers were blanketed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 9 hours ago, PolishPrince said: This is why people were shocked that Duke Williams had so many targets in the one game he was actually on the field a lot. Josh went to him when WR's were covered because he is the only one capable of making a contested catch. Beasley isnt out fighting anyone for the ball, Brown only can on underthrown deep balls when he is first to break back on it. I think Brown can be a number as far as target and play priority... but we need a bigger body guy (not necessarily some 6' 5" giant), who will be physical enough to feel comfortable making a play if everyone is covered. There are lots of quality non smurf wrs in this years draft Shenault Jefferson Pittman.....to name a few.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 I think Josh will need to start to trust his guys better as when he did throw those passes for the WR to go get and make a play for him often they were intercepted or the WR just stood there and watched the DB intercept it ala Zay jones. Do like the options the Bills have via the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said: Maybe never is to extreme how about ALMOST never. I will concede that Knox made a great contested catch against the Pats and his one handed catch against the Ravens, on a ball that Allen literally PLACED on his bicep, was sweet. But that's it. Brown had a lot of nice solid catches but I don't recall anything special. Ditto for Beasley, Duke, Foster, McKenzie, Singleterry, Gore, DeMarco, Kroft, Roberts & Smith. Did you see the catch the TN guy made for the TD last night? Or the catch the Ravens TE made for his TD? Other then the one handed catch of a perfectly placed Allen throw by Knox did a Bills receiver make even one play where the spectacular nature of the CATCH was an ESPN highlight? I think Knox might of had more than 1 of them, he just also had some drops on some real easy ones. I'm excited to see how that connections develops with Knox likely as the #1 TE this offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: I think Josh will need to start to trust his guys better as when he did throw those passes for the WR to go get and make a play for him often they were intercepted or the WR just stood there and watched the DB intercept it ala Zay jones. Do like the options the Bills have via the draft You know what will happen then don’t you? Go back and read through the threads about the throw to DiMarco. Threw it to him trying to let him make a play, DiMarco had position, jumps a split second later and he catches it. But who got teamed over it? Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: You know what will happen then don’t you? Go back and read through the threads about the throw to DiMarco. Threw it to him trying to let him make a play, DiMarco had position, jumps a split second later and he catches it. But who got teamed over it? Allen. yeah this is exactly.......but I also think this is what Josh needs guys making plays for him....it was there but this was just a miserable fail as Dimarcco jumped way too early but I doubt he is in the position very often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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