Antonio Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 We had a chance to close the first half like we didn´t see all season long, playing complementary football in all 3 faces of the game: Offense moved the ball, Defense close every opportunitie for the Texans, no ST mistakes... then we get the ball back to close the half and... Let this sink for a minute… when you play like this you get the result we had. Bills get the ball on their own 4 yard line with 5:45 to go in the 2nd Q. We were all hoping to get a first down or 2 so we don´t give up field position. Bills get the first down after 3 runs, 3 yards from Gore and 9 yards from Singletary. Gore comes up again for no gain and then for 2 yards... Suddenly Allen hits a really good pass to Duke and we all could feel the energy rising, Bills engines starting to roar. Crowd chanting Duuuuuuke!! Allen is clicking and hits Beasly, who makes a couple of good moves, for a 21-yard gain. You could feel the crowd going crazy. Allen starting to feel the game and hits Singletary for 12 more yards, Bills get to the Texans 34 yard line. T. Nsekhe FALSE START... Same old Bills????? Wait a minute... Allen Hits Brown for 7 yards and then Beasly for 6 more. Wonderful! Bills break the huddle and everybody is thinking, "Allen, please don´t get sack", but Allen is in the “zone” and responded with a beauty to Singeltary who makes a great catch for a first down. Allen and Singletary are getting it done!!!!! Let´s keep it going. 00:30 seconds left on the clock till half time, Bills on the Texans 23 yard line! We have a shot at being 17 - 0 at half time... Comm´on! Daboll thinking “we have all the momentum in our favor, I´m going for the jugular” hehehe After the play was over… Daboll: What you mean Frank didn´t score there?!?!?! A yard?! Only one yard?! But Frank has been on fire this series (3 carries for 5 yards). Also Daboll: What you mean we had to spike the ball next so we could at least have another play?! Damn Frank… Daboll again: So you mean to tell me we just wasted 2 plays in a row?! Ohhh that´s stupid… oh well, at least we are not losing. Stats on that series before Daboll starts panicking: Allen: 5 – 5 for 64 yards. Singletary: 2 runs for 9 yards / 2 catches for 15 yards and 3 1st downs. Beasly: 2 – 2 for 27 yards and 1 1st down. Duke: 1 – 1 for 15 yards and 1 1st down. Brown: 1 – 1 for 7 yards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 If ifs and buts were candy and nuts . . . . all losses suck. The fact is they were just not ready. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, BuffaloMatt said: If ifs and buts were candy and nuts . . . . all losses suck. The fact is they were just not ready. not ready for what? Game went in to OT and a few breaks our way and we win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Gore should have been shelved as soon as he got his yardage (Denver game?). The wheels had already fallen off his wagon by then, everyone knew this, but out of respect we keep wheeling him out there. Yeldon would have been way better out there. And don't tell me about fumbles, they have the same fumble rate. Edited January 6, 2020 by ScotSHO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, nucci said: not ready for what? Game went in to OT and a few breaks our way and we win one break Bills way and they win. Edited January 6, 2020 by cba fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Allen audibled or killed a play at the line, right? I'm guessing (based on nothing specific from the game) that whatever play call Daboll gave Allen had a built in kill that Allen used because he didn't like the coverage. I'm guessing Allen did this based off of what he's been told to look for and do. Instead of realizing the situation where he should have hiked it and threw it away quickly if it looked bad, he went back on what he's been taught and did that. IF this is what happened, I can't get too upset with him. Playoffs, near the half, there's a lot going on. He'll learn. If it was Daboll's play call, then he's a freaking moron. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, elroy16 said: Allen audibled or killed a play at the line, right? I'm guessing (based on nothing specific from the game) that whatever play call Daboll gave Allen had a built in kill that Allen used because he didn't like the coverage. I'm guessing Allen did this based off of what he's been told to look for and do. Instead of realizing the situation where he should have hiked it and threw it away quickly if it looked bad, he went back on what he's been taught and did that. IF this is what happened, I can't get too upset with him. Playoffs, near the half, there's a lot going on. He'll learn. If it was Daboll's play call, then he's a freaking moron. Yep. This is exactly what I think. I think Josh made a mental mistake. If you look after he is just wandering around behind the play. It is only when suddenly the sideline starts screaming for the clock that Josh realises. The Gore run was not called. Josh checked into it. And the more I look at the body language around the play the more I think he wasn't supposed to. I didn't notice it at the time - but I think Josh maybe miscounted our time outs remaining or just presumed "we have a time out it's fine." It is actually a fair question should they have taken the time out at that point after the Gore run? It would have saved them a down and they would have had two shots at the endzone. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Allen hit Duke in both hands in the endzone, that should have been a TD period. No excuses. Edited January 6, 2020 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: Allen hit Duke in both hands in the endzone, that should have been a TD period. No excuses. That was a great throw, with Duke in great position for catch. Unfortunately, the DB also made a great play pulling Duke's arm down before he could secure the catch. In my opinion, Allen, Duke and the defender all did their job on this play. Sometimes their guys make plays too. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, Antonio said: We had a chance to close the first half like we didn´t see all season long, playing complementary football in all 3 faces of the game: Offense moved the ball, Defense close every opportunitie for the Texans, no ST mistakes... then we get the ball back to close the half and... Let this sink for a minute… when you play like this you get the result we had. Bills get the ball on their own 4 yard line with 5:45 to go in the 2nd Q. We were all hoping to get a first down or 2 so we don´t give up field position. Bills get the first down after 3 runs, 3 yards from Gore and 9 yards from Singletary. Gore comes up again for no gain and then for 2 yards... Suddenly Allen hits a really good pass to Duke and we all could feel the energy rising, Bills engines starting to roar. Crowd chanting Duuuuuuke!! Allen is clicking and hits Beasly, who makes a couple of good moves, for a 21-yard gain. You could feel the crowd going crazy. Allen starting to feel the game and hits Singletary for 12 more yards, Bills get to the Texans 34 yard line. T. Nsekhe FALSE START... Same old Bills????? Wait a minute... Allen Hits Brown for 7 yards and then Beasly for 6 more. Wonderful! Bills break the huddle and everybody is thinking, "Allen, please don´t get sack", but Allen is in the “zone” and responded with a beauty to Singeltary who makes a great catch for a first down. Allen and Singletary are getting it done!!!!! Let´s keep it going. 00:30 seconds left on the clock till half time, Bills on the Texans 23 yard line! We have a shot at being 17 - 0 at half time... Comm´on! Daboll thinking “we have all the momentum in our favor, I´m going for the jugular” hehehe After the play was over… Daboll: What you mean Frank didn´t score there?!?!?! A yard?! Only one yard?! But Frank has been on fire this series (3 carries for 5 yards). Also Daboll: What you mean we had to spike the ball next so we could at least have another play?! Damn Frank… Daboll again: So you mean to tell me we just wasted 2 plays in a row?! Ohhh that´s stupid… oh well, at least we are not losing. Stats on that series before Daboll starts panicking: Allen: 5 – 5 for 64 yards. Singletary: 2 runs for 9 yards / 2 catches for 15 yards and 3 1st downs. Beasly: 2 – 2 for 27 yards and 1 1st down. Duke: 1 – 1 for 15 yards and 1 1st down. Brown: 1 – 1 for 7 yards. its a great point....my only question is how much of what is called comes from McDermott....don't blow the field goal Brian be safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Forward Progress said: That was a great throw, with Duke in great position for catch. Unfortunately, the DB also made a great play pulling Duke's arm down before he could secure the catch. In my opinion, Allen, Duke and the defender all did their job on this play. Sometimes their guys make plays too. I agree the DB made a nice play, but I guess that's what separates the elite WR's from the OK ones. They make that catch regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I agree the DB made a nice play, but I guess that's what separates the elite WR's from the OK ones. They make that catch regardless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: And? I bet Hopkins would have made that catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, elroy16 said: Allen audibled or killed a play at the line, right? I'm guessing (based on nothing specific from the game) that whatever play call Daboll gave Allen had a built in kill that Allen used because he didn't like the coverage. I'm guessing Allen did this based off of what he's been told to look for and do. Instead of realizing the situation where he should have hiked it and threw it away quickly if it looked bad, he went back on what he's been taught and did that. IF this is what happened, I can't get too upset with him. Playoffs, near the half, there's a lot going on. He'll learn. If it was Daboll's play call, then he's a freaking moron. I never saw the kill kill signal or gesture. That was the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Antonio said: We had a chance to close the first half like we didn´t see all season long, playing complementary football in all 3 faces of the game: Offense moved the ball, Defense close every opportunitie for the Texans, no ST mistakes... then we get the ball back to close the half and... Let this sink for a minute… when you play like this you get the result we had. Bills get the ball on their own 4 yard line with 5:45 to go in the 2nd Q. We were all hoping to get a first down or 2 so we don´t give up field position. Bills get the first down after 3 runs, 3 yards from Gore and 9 yards from Singletary. Gore comes up again for no gain and then for 2 yards... Suddenly Allen hits a really good pass to Duke and we all could feel the energy rising, Bills engines starting to roar. Crowd chanting Duuuuuuke!! Allen is clicking and hits Beasly, who makes a couple of good moves, for a 21-yard gain. You could feel the crowd going crazy. Allen starting to feel the game and hits Singletary for 12 more yards, Bills get to the Texans 34 yard line. T. Nsekhe FALSE START... Same old Bills????? Wait a minute... Allen Hits Brown for 7 yards and then Beasly for 6 more. Wonderful! Bills break the huddle and everybody is thinking, "Allen, please don´t get sack", but Allen is in the “zone” and responded with a beauty to Singeltary who makes a great catch for a first down. Allen and Singletary are getting it done!!!!! Let´s keep it going. 00:30 seconds left on the clock till half time, Bills on the Texans 23 yard line! We have a shot at being 17 - 0 at half time... Comm´on! Daboll thinking “we have all the momentum in our favor, I´m going for the jugular” hehehe After the play was over… Daboll: What you mean Frank didn´t score there?!?!?! A yard?! Only one yard?! But Frank has been on fire this series (3 carries for 5 yards). Also Daboll: What you mean we had to spike the ball next so we could at least have another play?! Damn Frank… Daboll again: So you mean to tell me we just wasted 2 plays in a row?! Ohhh that´s stupid… oh well, at least we are not losing. Stats on that series before Daboll starts panicking: Allen: 5 – 5 for 64 yards. Singletary: 2 runs for 9 yards / 2 catches for 15 yards and 3 1st downs. Beasly: 2 – 2 for 27 yards and 1 1st down. Duke: 1 – 1 for 15 yards and 1 1st down. Brown: 1 – 1 for 7 yards. Horrific play calling/clock management, particularly at the end of the first half, has been a hallmark of this coaching staff as long as it has been here. The only thing they do worse is their challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 The game wasn’t lost by a dropped pass in the FIRST HALF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Horrific play calling/clock management, particularly at the end of the first half, has been a hallmark of this coaching staff as long as it has been here. The only thing they do worse is their challenges. Just watch what happened at the 1:08 mark. The clock runs down nearly 40 seconds before the next play. Sean's clock management is embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, ScotSHO said: Gore should have been shelved as soon as he got his yardage (Denver game?). The wheels had already fallen off his wagon by then, everyone knew this, but out of respect we keep wheeling him out there. Yeldon would have been way better out there. And don't tell me about fumbles, they have the same fumble rate. I'm gonna tell you about fumbles. Fact is...McDermott lost trust early in Yeldon...and trusted Gore to not fumble. Productivity be damned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Horrific play calling/clock management, particularly at the end of the first half, has been a hallmark of this coaching staff as long as it has been here. The only thing they do worse is their challenges. Ridiculous. If you start a drive with 5+ minutes left from your own 4 yard line and a 10 point lead on the road, you'd gladly go into halftime 10-0. Ending the drive with a FG as the half expired was a huge win. Sure, a 96 yard drives that kills the rest of the half would be incredible, but that can't possibly be the expectation. To call it horrific play calling and clock management is the height of absurdity. The Texans have NFL players on their roster, too. Remember that earlier in the game with similar field position, Allen threw back to back passes directly into the hands of defenders that would have been walk in touchdowns. 13-0 at halftime feels a little better than 10-7. You go into the locker room on the road in the playoffs up 13-0, your coaching staff gets gold stars across the board. 54 minutes ago, matter2003 said: And? I bet Hopkins would have made that catch. Hopkins is the one who lost a fumble, right? The one that gave the Bills a free three points? Edited January 6, 2020 by Billl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 So another “Gore is done” thread. Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Antonio said: I never saw the kill kill signal or gesture. That was the call. Not the call. I have faith Allen will learn a lot from this game and season. Edited January 7, 2020 by elroy16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogham26 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Daboll did not call for a frank gore run play before half and anyone who thinks he did is an idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 21 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: The game wasn’t lost by a dropped pass in the FIRST HALF! Correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 21 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: The game wasn’t lost by a dropped pass in the FIRST HALF! No; however, this entire thread would be moot if Williams had caught that pass - and the Bills would have been up 17-0 at half, and the FG in the 3rd would have put them up 20-0, rather than 16-0. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 2:25 PM, nucci said: not ready for what? Game went in to OT and a few breaks our way and we win Not ready to be a consistent offense that can sustain drives and manufacture points. If you are trying to tell me that the offense was READY then I will continue to disagree. Could they have won, yes. Unfortunately, they didn't. I don't want breaks to get wins. I want a team that wins without getting breaks. When they are ready they won't need breaks to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: Not ready to be a consistent offense that can sustain drives and manufacture points. If you are trying to tell me that the offense was READY then I will continue to disagree. Could they have won, yes. Unfortunately, they didn't. I don't want breaks to get wins. I want a team that wins without getting breaks. When they are ready they won't need breaks to win. most teams get breaks to win....do you expect teams to play perfect games.....are you saying Houston didn't get any breaks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 11:29 AM, ScotSHO said: Gore should have been shelved as soon as he got his yardage (Denver game?). The wheels had already fallen off his wagon by then, everyone knew this, but out of respect we keep wheeling him out there. Yeldon would have been way better out there. And don't tell me about fumbles, they have the same fumble rate. Using Frank the last few weeks over Yeldon was so very foolish. Frank was a great mentor and presence for Devin but his job was done after the Denver game. Benching him for Yeldon might have ruffled some feathers in the locker room but it was the right move that never happened. And funny few are talking about the 38 seconds Josh let run down from the 1:08 mark. Huddled up, no rush, no urgency. Josh and McD both need a refresher course on time management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 hours ago, ogham26 said: Daboll did not call for a frank gore run play before half and anyone who thinks he did is an idiot. I think that's right, but he also has to communicate what to do and not do if the play he called isn't going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 A perfect 1st half would've been 28-0. No one was saying it was perfect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 12 hours ago, nucci said: most teams get breaks to win....do you expect teams to play perfect games.....are you saying Houston didn't get any breaks? I get that good teams get breaks sometimes. Houston was the better lesser team on Saturday. I like where the Bills are and Love where I think their going. It's that breaks only get you so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 3:12 PM, LABILLBACKER said: Just watch what happened at the 1:08 mark. The clock runs down nearly 40 seconds before the next play. Sean's clock management is embarrassing. He was managing for the fg..... followed this up by running gore to the left hash so the kick came from that side as haushka had issues kicking from the right hash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 1:26 PM, ScottLaw said: A good WR makes that catch. In fairness to Duke: I don’t think anyone makes that catch. The DB was falling into Duke’s arm as the ball arrived. That’s a tremendous amount of force applied at a critical time. It’s the old “sometimes everyone does everything right but the other guy just makes a play” situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) On 1/7/2020 at 11:13 AM, elroy16 said: Not the call. I have faith Allen will learn a lot from this game and season. that really doesn’t say anything. He could be calling anything from anything. He could just be calling which gap the runner is going to. If it was an audible that doesn’t mean the initial call was a pass play. coordinators usually send a couple plays in. Pick one based on defense. In essence Daboll did call it. Josh looked at defense and picked play 2. No one even knows what play 1 was. Edited January 8, 2020 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 2:11 PM, Antonio said: We had a chance to close the first half like we didn´t see all season long, playing complementary football in all 3 faces of the game: Offense moved the ball, Defense close every opportunitie for the Texans, no ST mistakes... then we get the ball back to close the half and... Let this sink for a minute… when you play like this you get the result we had. Bills get the ball on their own 4 yard line with 5:45 to go in the 2nd Q. We were all hoping to get a first down or 2 so we don´t give up field position. Bills get the first down after 3 runs, 3 yards from Gore and 9 yards from Singletary. Gore comes up again for no gain and then for 2 yards... Suddenly Allen hits a really good pass to Duke and we all could feel the energy rising, Bills engines starting to roar. Crowd chanting Duuuuuuke!! Allen is clicking and hits Beasly, who makes a couple of good moves, for a 21-yard gain. You could feel the crowd going crazy. Allen starting to feel the game and hits Singletary for 12 more yards, Bills get to the Texans 34 yard line. T. Nsekhe FALSE START... Same old Bills????? Wait a minute... Allen Hits Brown for 7 yards and then Beasly for 6 more. Wonderful! Bills break the huddle and everybody is thinking, "Allen, please don´t get sack", but Allen is in the “zone” and responded with a beauty to Singeltary who makes a great catch for a first down. Allen and Singletary are getting it done!!!!! Let´s keep it going. 00:30 seconds left on the clock till half time, Bills on the Texans 23 yard line! We have a shot at being 17 - 0 at half time... Comm´on! Daboll thinking “we have all the momentum in our favor, I´m going for the jugular” hehehe After the play was over… Daboll: What you mean Frank didn´t score there?!?!?! A yard?! Only one yard?! But Frank has been on fire this series (3 carries for 5 yards). Also Daboll: What you mean we had to spike the ball next so we could at least have another play?! Damn Frank… Daboll again: So you mean to tell me we just wasted 2 plays in a row?! Ohhh that´s stupid… oh well, at least we are not losing. Stats on that series before Daboll starts panicking: Allen: 5 – 5 for 64 yards. Singletary: 2 runs for 9 yards / 2 catches for 15 yards and 3 1st downs. Beasly: 2 – 2 for 27 yards and 1 1st down. Duke: 1 – 1 for 15 yards and 1 1st down. Brown: 1 – 1 for 7 yards. I think Bills outsmarted themselves here. as they approached the redzone, they were taking their time, no hurry at all. the logic being they wanted to burn clock before they scored, so Houston wouldn’t have time to score. But they played it too cute, and ended up wasting one of their three redzone downs clicking the ball. Primary goal should have been TD and don’t worry if Houston has 90 vs 30 sec to come back and try to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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