unbillievable Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mango said: A good look at his history. He started using Xanax and Codeine in 7th grade. Gangs at 15. Then some ass-hat-coach at Baylor helped Gordon cheat his drug tests so he could keep playing. When you start using prescription meds at 12/13, you really don't have much of a chance against being an addict. Then add gangs at 15, and adults helping you keep your addictions going from 18-20 so you can be "successful". Jerry Jones assigned a babysitter to Dez Bryant. I always wondered if that was in his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Give the man a chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Did not see that coming..............maybe he can hang out with AB. ...naw....he's studying for finals...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: In all fairness weed is legal in Seattle. Technically it is against federal law and that prevails over Seattle's laws. But there is the whole CBA and banned substances, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, klos63 said: Patriots had to know this was coming. Yep , probably had video of it! sad to hear but enough of the wasted chances spent . Hope he is able to fight the demons with in himself and is able to enjoy some normalcy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 It was Blow and PEDs he adopted the Patriot Way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 40 minutes ago, White Linen said: Wow There's something very likeable to me about Gordon. He's clearly has a problem and it has it's grip on his life. Same with me. He comes across as an easy guy to root for in my eyes...hoping for the best outcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Yikes, dude wants to have his cake and eat it too... which is a dumb gotdamn quote, what the heck else do you do with cake? Seems like he wants to play ball and still do whatever recreational things he wants to do in his down time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Where are all the people who were mad we didn't put a claim in for Gordon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: In all fairness weed is legal in Seattle. Is it a certainty that weed was what caused this suspension? I think it’s past due for the NFL to change their rules if so. It has verifiable legitsment uses for example pain relief that could benefit players. He may be psychologically addicted but I haven’t heard that weed is actually physically so. In his case it may be a distinction without a difference Edited December 16, 2019 by Margarita Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, unbillievable said: I always point to Gordon when people say Weed isn't addictive. Anyone who chooses Marijuana over $$,$$$,$$$ is clearly a junkie. Weed is mentally addictive just like anything. It doesn't however hold the same physical withdrawals and addiction that other harder drugs and tobacco have. But yes if you choose weed over an NFL career you are stupid and also not good at beating a easy to beat policy (Aaron Hernandez beat the NFL's weed policy they test you once a year right before training camp.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Margarita said: Is it a certainty that weed was what caused this suspension? I think it’s past due for the NFL to change their rules if so. It has verifiable legitsment uses for example pain relief that could benefit players. He may be psychologically addicted but I haven’t heard that weed is actually physically so. In his case it may be a distinction without a difference The change may well come some day, but there is always something about something and talented people sometimes just find a way to f things up. Doesn't make them bad people, but it just is what it is. He's gone, and there wasn't nothing nobody could do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 57 minutes ago, whatdrought said: How has his agent not hired a full time body man to prevent this by this point? Jeez. Probably turned the body man and sent him after the stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just goes to show how teams will continue to overlook just about anything if the player is good enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Margarita said: Is it a certainty that weed was what caused this suspension? I think it’s past due for the NFL to change their rules if so. It has verifiable legitsment uses for example pain relief that could benefit players. He may be psychologically addicted but I haven’t heard that weed is actually physically so. In his case it may be a distinction without a difference I agree with you on the "past due" thing But that's a "maybe in the future" Here's the thing that bothers me for the guy's future. To a large extent, success in our society is a matter of being willing and able to abide rules - homeowners rules, condo association rules, car insurance rules, traffic laws, etc. And yep, employers rules. It doesn't bode well for the guy's life outside of football to be unable to handle that within football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Sooooooo (as I heard speculated on the radio) the Patriots knew something was up but found a way to dump his issues onto another team. Please Roger Do Your Job and get that organization under control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, H2o said: Where are all the people who were mad we didn't put a claim in for Gordon? still here. And guess what would have happened? Nothing bad hence the ZERO RISK part of claiming Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 And Bong Rip Gordon is at it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Probably turned the body man and sent him after the stuff I actually had that exact thought as I was typing that. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 How many people work for a company with a substance abuse policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, unbillievable said: How many people work for a company with a substance abuse policy? I’d say a lot do. I won’t attempt to put a % to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, unbillievable said: Go ahead and try it. CBD isn’t illegal, A. B, dogs don’t alert to it. Or, at least they shouldn’t be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Surprise! Surprise! 25 minutes ago, unbillievable said: How many people work for a company with a substance abuse policy? I have every day I have worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I hate to see any young person throw away opportunities. Feel for the kid but the NFL needs to say enough, you can only get so many chances. Hope he can finally come to grips with his addictive behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: In all fairness weed is legal in Seattle. It is not legal. It is not prosecuted for possession by local police but I could see how some potheads would interpret it that way. Reminds me of nephew who got out of jail and went back to the "friends" who got him hooked on MJ who never had any issues with it but he did. 2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: This feels like the end of the line for him with regard to the NFL. Really hope for his sake that he can win this battle at some point. It is simple, move to Jamaca and smoke them if he can bum them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: CBD isn’t illegal, A. B, dogs don’t alert to it. Or, at least they shouldn’t be. A. It is in Texas. It was confiscated and she missed the flight while they detained her, before writing the ticket. B. If dogs don't alert to it, then he must have found bacon in her carry-on. ? Or smelled something else. This happened, and I'm still aware of other "alternative" homeopathic stuff given to me because of it, when I travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, unbillievable said: A. It is in Texas. It was confiscated and she missed the flight while they detained her, before writing the ticket. B. If dogs don't alert to it, then he must have found bacon in her carry-on. ? Or smelled something else. This happened, and I'm still aware of other "alternative" homeopathic stuff given to me because of it, when I travel. Yeah, the dog smelled something else alright. It’s called THC. Pure CBD oil is legal in Texas. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, unbillievable said: It's still illegal nationally. The locals just don't enforce it. I consider it more a sanctuary law, rather than legalization. Not to mention the Seahawks play in states where they still arrest people for it. Happened to a friend of mine boarding a plane from Texas to California. Idiot had CBD oil in his carry-on. Dog got him. Imagine if they detain half the visiting team at the airport. ? LOL! I am guessing that some teams warn players they suspect using but are trying to be blind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Glad MLB removed weed from the banned list. NFL must do the same. Marijuana is not performance enhancing and has ruined careers for arbitrary reasons. One could argue the reason is Racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: This is a reminder for everyone that was HOT about the Bills not claiming him... This seemed like a forgone conclusion when the Patriots dumped him. Meh.......cold take. Gordon's clutch catches in that great battle against San Francisco may be the difference between homefield advantage throughout the NFC playoffs for the Seahawks.........or just playing a wildcard game on the road(like the Bills likely will). Nate must not have seen that game. Guarantee you they do not regret putting in the waiver claim on him. If your locker room is too fragile to handle a quiet but troubled player like Gordon then it's a house of cards. I don't believe that's the case in Buffalo. Give me Gordon on that pass to John Brown at the end of the Ravens game..........the Bills might be playing for division title and homefield throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 It should be patently obvious by now that the Buffalo Bills miss having a starting WR with some size who can separate and win contested throws. Particularly when the QB isn't the most accurate and needs a WR to adjust to an off the mark throw. One thing about McBeane I don't understand has been this either/or mentality with regard to receivers. In 17-18 they pursued some guys with size like Z. Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, and Andre Holmes. By late 2018 they went away from that toward smaller types like McKenzie, followed by Brown and Beasley in '19 UFA. Gotta have some more balance and it's something I wish they'd be proactive rather than what I presume is reactive in the 2020 off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 We don't know that this is weed, do we? He came out and admitted a couple of years ago to using all sorts of drugs, including cocaine. Just pointing this out since people keep assuming he can't stay away from pot. Could easily be a "harder" drug of abuse or even alcohol. What's certain is that this guy is a complete mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, BillsVet said: It should be patently obvious by now that the Buffalo Bills miss having a starting WR with some size who can separate and win contested throws. Particularly when the QB isn't the most accurate and needs a WR to adjust to an off the mark throw. One thing about McBeane I don't understand has been this either/or mentality with regard to receivers. In 17-18 they pursued some guys with size like Z. Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, and Andre Holmes. By late 2018 they went away from that toward smaller types like McKenzie, followed by Brown and Beasley in '19 UFA. Gotta have some more balance and it's something I wish they'd be proactive rather than what I presume is reactive in the 2020 off-season. The offense is painfully hamstrung by their lack of a playmaking wide receiver with some size. I'd like to see them sign one in FA and draft two more in this deep draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Weed is mentally addictive just like anything. It doesn't however hold the same physical withdrawals and addiction that other harder drugs and tobacco have. But yes if you choose weed over an NFL career you are stupid and also not good at beating a easy to beat policy (Aaron Hernandez beat the NFL's weed policy they test you once a year right before training camp.) Anything that helps relieve pain (or a numberof other issues) can be mentally addictive. 1 hour ago, Sig1Hunter said: CBD isn’t illegal, A. B, dogs don’t alert to it. Or, at least they shouldn’t be. Actually CBD IS illegal in Florida. Freaking crazy, right? It's sold virtually everywhere. Still the gestapo does stuff like this: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-grandma-arrested-cbd-plans-lawsuit-20190514-mmtgumqurvcxxknbqih522z6hy-story.html 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: It is not legal. It is not prosecuted for possession by local police but I could see how some potheads would interpret it that way. Reminds me of nephew who got out of jail and went back to the "friends" who got him hooked on MJ who never had any issues with it but he did. It is simple, move to Jamaca and smoke them if he can bum them. Potheads? "Hooked onMJ"? Dude, you need a serious reality check. You sound like my (extremely ignorant) 80 year old uncle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, The Dean said: Anything that helps relieve pain (or a numberof other issues) can be mentally addictive. Actually CBD IS illegal in Florida. Freaking crazy, right? It's sold virtually everywhere. Still the gestapo does stuff like this: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-grandma-arrested-cbd-plans-lawsuit-20190514-mmtgumqurvcxxknbqih522z6hy-story.html Potheads? "Hooked onMJ"? Dude, you need a serious reality check. You sound like my (extremely ignorant) 80 year old uncle. No it’s actually not illegal in Florida, Dean. I was a cop in Florida for 18 years on an interdiction team. 100% CBD is legal. That grandma arrested at the Mouse House has a big settlement coming her way for false arrest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: No it’s actually not illegal in Florida, Dean. I was a cop in Florida for 18 years on an interdiction team. 100% CBD is legal. That grandma arrested at the Mouse House has a big settlement coming her way for false arrest! She's the tip of the iceberg. https://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/palm-beach/palm-beach-police-say-cbd-products-could-get-you-arrested https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/verify-can-you-legally-use-cbd-oils-in-florida/77-e9360d60-a804-489f-b829-3125040607cf I could include many more articles from this year alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Dean said: She's the tip of the iceberg. https://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/palm-beach/palm-beach-police-say-cbd-products-could-get-you-arrested https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/verify-can-you-legally-use-cbd-oils-in-florida/77-e9360d60-a804-489f-b829-3125040607cf I could include many more articles from this year alone. Um, it’s after July 1 Dean-O.. I’ll add that the problem with CBD oil is just that...it usually isn’t just CBD. THC is the compound that is illegal in Florida and most other states. CBD isn’t psychoactive, whereas THC is. A lot of products labeled as CBD oil actually have THC in them...if there’s enough to pop a presumptive field test positive, you could be charged. If you are getting “legit” CBD oil, it should have the producers info on it along with the percentages of THC (if any). Edited December 17, 2019 by Sig1Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Meh.......cold take. Gordon's clutch catches in that great battle against San Francisco may be the difference between homefield advantage throughout the NFC playoffs for the Seahawks.........or just playing a wildcard game on the road(like the Bills likely will). Nate must not have seen that game. Guarantee you they do not regret putting in the waiver claim on him. If your locker room is too fragile to handle a quiet but troubled player like Gordon then it's a house of cards. I don't believe that's the case in Buffalo. Give me Gordon on that pass to John Brown at the end of the Ravens game..........the Bills might be playing for division title and homefield throughout. Gordon won’t be available for the rematch between the two teams. Plus Kittle and Sanders will play this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 hours ago, White Linen said: I know you're kidding but we'd have to think he's done now, right? Meaning lifetime ban. Until the next time he cries on Goodell's shoulder, tells him he's sorry and asks for one more chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 51 minutes ago, The Dean said: Potheads? "Hooked onMJ"? Dude, you need a serious reality check. You sound like my (extremely ignorant) 80 year old uncle. I did not know your uncle was smart. Not a blood uncle I am guessing. Not everyone has bought into MJ is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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