D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I mean seriously? Come on! Ernie ***** Adams is BB "dirty tricks" man. He's like a political operative from Watergate era. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 This will get swept under the rug like it always does I think Belichick knows the nfl is all about $$$$ and allowing this to get any traction is bad for business. Ktaft and Belichick can pretty much get away with anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, DuckyBoys said: This will get swept under the rug like it always does I think Belichick knows the nfl is all about $$$$ and allowing this to get any traction is bad for business. Ktaft and Belichick can pretty much get away with anything I find it interesting, if true, that the BENGALS retain the original film. The NFL has a copy. Maybe the Bengals are sick of the Cheaters too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The pink Ernie phone is used in crisis situations. "Hey Ernie get down to the visitors lockerroom and put the over the counter laxative in the water at halftime!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Augie said: I find it interesting, if true, that the BENGALS retain the original film. The NFL has a copy. Maybe the Bengals are sick of the Cheaters too? bet the film gets destroyed Both sets Cant tamper with the legacy of the face of the NFL for the past 20 years Bad for business Integrity of the game means nothing compared to lost revenue All this crap during the tenure of Goodell " ESPN reported on Sunday that Goodell had asked for a salary of $49.5 million a year, the use of a private jet for life and lifetime health insurance for his family. Goodell was paid $31.7 million in 2015, the most recent figure publicly available " Anyone think Roger is anything more than a corporate shark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: The pink Ernie phone is used in crisis situations. "Hey Ernie get down to the visitors lockerroom and put the over the counter laxative in the water at halftime!" Read the book “spygate” by Bryan O’Leary. He references this phone (Bill B often goes to it in crisis game situations) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: bet the film gets destroyed Both sets Cant tamper with the legacy of the face of the NFL for the past 20 years Bad for business Integrity of the game means nothing compared to lost revenue All this crap during the tenure of Goodell " ESPN reported on Sunday that Goodell had asked for a salary of $49.5 million a year, the use of a private jet for life and lifetime health insurance for his family. Goodell was paid $31.7 million in 2015, the most recent figure publicly available " Anyone think Roger is anything more than a corporate shark We shall see. My point was the Bengals were wise enough to keep the leverage by maintaining control of the original. They aren’t usually that smart! Let’s see how strongly they feel about this. What could they gain by “playing nice” with the league? Interesting times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 hours ago, peterpan said: I think you could replace Jeff Tuel with Brady. Brady woulda been outta the league after a few seasons, and Jeff Tuel would be a 6 time Superbowl champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I.e., sweep it under the rug as fast as possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 No one should be surprised. Brady and Belichick are career cheaters. Arrogant and obnoxious, yet so insecure they have to pull this garbage on one of the worst teams in the league. Everything they have accomplished, imo, is seriously tainted by their deviant behavior. Kick them out of the NFL, issue HOF bans for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The Patriots haven't found the fountain of youth to keep Brady 29, nor can they hide the geriatric cognitive decline of Kraft, & Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 58 minutes ago, Augie said: How awesome would it be to bring in your own NSA quality team and find their little shenanigans, all video recorded and everything. If they are up to these things, pay more for smarter geeks and let it bite them in the arse! The problem with a security sweep is you can never be sure you've found 'em all, and unless you maintain security after the sweep including on pipe chases etc, hard to be sure nothing gets re-installed. Better to use audio jammers/white noise etc or better yet, pre-record a bunch of misleading intentions and play THEM back while you write what you really want to say on your flip board. Mwahahahahaha! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, par73 said: No one should be surprised. Brady and Belichick are career cheaters. Arrogant and obnoxious, yet so insecure they have to pull this garbage on one of the worst teams in the league. Everything they have accomplished, imo, is seriously tainted by their deviant behavior. Kick them out of the NFL, issue HOF bans for both. Don't forget Kraft and Ernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The problem with a security sweep is you can never be sure you've found 'em all, and unless you maintain security after the sweep including on pipe chases etc, hard to be sure nothing gets re-installed. Better to use audio jammers/white noise etc or better yet, pre-record a bunch of misleading intentions and play THEM back while you write what you really want to say on your flip board. Mwahahahahaha! Keep the flip board out out sight from the cameras! Or mislead them there too! Keep the real stuff in the toilet stalls, assuming they are safe. I’m not looking to “feel safe” as much as catch them in the act and crush them like a bug. If you find anything, it’s over. I know that’s the LAST thing the league wants out, but we could use a new owner, GM, HC and QB in Foxboro. Keep cheating, pay the ultimate price. It happened to the Panthers and the Clippers. If true, I’d push to make that happen. I’m generally a forgiving soul, but if you want to keep it up I’ll resent being taken for stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The problem with a security sweep is you can never be sure you've found 'em all, and unless you maintain security after the sweep including on pipe chases etc, hard to be sure nothing gets re-installed. You just need to find one - then provide evidence. I honestly think about this every time i watch a Cheater home game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Hey guys I’m sure goodell will get to the bottom of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 In college the NCAA would categorize this as “lack of institutional control” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, stevewin said: You just need to find one - then provide evidence. I honestly think about this every time i watch a Cheater home game Ha! Nah, the Patriots got their plausible deniability all locked down, I'm sure. Seriously, I worry that coming from Carolina, McDermott doesn't understand the degree of paranoia necessary against the Patriots*** PS do I add a 4th star now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ha! Nah, the Patriots got their plausible deniability all locked down, I'm sure. Seriously, I worry that coming from Carolina, McDermott doesn't understand the degree of paranoia necessary against the Patriots*** PS do I add a 4th star now? He gets it. As I recall, he put some Pats assistant in an arm bar when the Bills were warming up before the New England home game. It was reported that the little weasel was watching our warm ups and McDermott went ape chit. He knows. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/sean-mcdermott-escorts-bill-belichicks-son-off-the-field-during-pregame-warmups-for-patriots-bills-game/amp/ The weasel was Hoody’s little bundle of joy. Edited December 11, 2019 by BringBackFergy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: In college the NCAA would categorize this as “lack of institutional control” And similar to the NCAA with the UNC situation, the NFL won’t have the balls to throw the book at them and instead will hide in the corner and sweep it under the rug. Cheaters prosper under Goodell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: He gets it. As I recall, he put some Pats assistant in an arm bar when the Bills were warming up before the New England home game. It was reported that the little weasel was watching our warm ups and McDermott went ape chit. He knows. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/sean-mcdermott-escorts-bill-belichicks-son-off-the-field-during-pregame-warmups-for-patriots-bills-game/amp/ The weasel was Hoody’s little bundle of joy. He gets some of it, but is he paranoid enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He gets some of it, but is he paranoid enough? No one is. The Pats create a whole new level of paranoia....rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Perhaps someone could send a bat signal to the commish. TSW would like to hear from him directly on this important issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Why don't we start ..openly.. recording them in every game they play. Have some knock on the locker room door and ask if they can come in. Have a guy juar roam their side line during games. Every day in practice fly a helicopter over the field. Stupid *****.. But just ***** with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 It's all been said in this thread so far. But I will add this. There are a lot of dejected fans here talking about "well, it doesn't matter, the NFL will just sweep it under the rug". Remember that the power is in the fan's hands. There are millions of us, and only a few dozen decision-makers, if even. If we rise up, Goodell is gone. Kraft is gone, Etc. When will we stop being doormats? Make your voice heard. Demand action! What is this self-defeatist crap? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: It's all been said in this thread so far. But I will add this. There are a lot of dejected fans here talking about "well, it doesn't matter, the NFL will just sweep it under the rug". Remember that the power is in the fan's hands. There are millions of us, and only a few dozen decision-makers, if even. If we rise up, Goodell is gone. Kraft is gone, Etc. When will we stop being doormats? Make your voice heard. Demand action! What is this self-defeatist crap? I'm ready! Who do I talk to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, BringBackFlutie said: I'm ready! Who do I talk to? Go on social media. Tag corporate accounts. Every major organization monitors social media. It has more influence than you can possibly imagine. Speaking from experience. Even if only a couple people like it, a well placed post or tweet can reach the highest executives. 3 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: I'm ready! Who do I talk to? These tweets from Rappaport and the like talking about weak punishments are a test. They want to see the social media response. If it's weak they will go ahead with it. If there is heavy backlash, they will reconvene. They are doing everything in their power right now trying to sweep this under the rug. They are having midnight meetings as I type this trying to figure out how to make this blow over. The more outraged the NFL fans are, the more their hand will be forced. The more dejected we are, the more likely they will move ahead with no punishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 52 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: I'm ready! Who do I talk to? Take to the Twitterverse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Tick tick tick tick...y’all hear that? That is the clock ticking down on the Patriots. ⏱......?..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Tick tick tick tick...y’all hear that? That is the clock ticking down on the Patriots. ⏱......?..... Love it. It really feels like it this time. You know what would put the final nail in the coffin? One more scandal to come out right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInCt74 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 They are an embarrassment to the league. If we could start thousands of people saying they were gonna boycott watching nfl if they dont punish the pats severely maybe they will. Kind of like the storm area 51 thing. How do we get that started . Maybe we should ask that kid who started that how. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 hours ago, TheProcess said: And similar to the NCAA with the UNC situation, the NFL won’t have the balls to throw the book at them and instead will hide in the corner and sweep it under the rug. Cheaters prosper under Goodell. They forced them to give up a 1st round pick for spygate. They took a 1st and a 4th away from them for Deflategate along with suspending Brady four games. Plus, fined them a lot of dough in both instances. That's pretty severe punishment. There has to be credible evidence for them to throw the book at them (no matter how much we hate them) but I don't think the NFL will sweep it under the rug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInCt74 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 How many owners and coaches would happily trade 2 1st's a 4th and some cash for 6 superbowl victories. Sounds like a good deal to me Not to mention 9 afc championships 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: Hey guys I’m sure goodell will get to the bottom of this. sure he will. 8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ha! Nah, the Patriots got their plausible deniability all locked down, I'm sure. Seriously, I worry that coming from Carolina, McDermott doesn't understand the degree of paranoia necessary against the Patriots*** PS do I add a 4th star now? 4, I'm up to 6 LOL Report: Severe sanctions unlikely in SpyGate 2 In Spygate, which happened during the 2007 season, the NFL fined Bill Belichick $500,000, fined the team $250,000 and docked the Patriots their first-round draft pick in 2008. The Patriots again are under investigation for an incident that involved a videographer. Severe sanctions are not expected this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 hours ago, ToGoGo said: Go on social media. Tag corporate accounts. Every major organization monitors social media. It has more influence than you can possibly imagine. Speaking from experience. Even if only a couple people like it, a well placed post or tweet can reach the highest executives. This is interesting. Someone should identify the 10 largest coorporate sponsors for the NFL and start a grassroots campaign to inundate them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aireskoi Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, ToGoGo said: It's all been said in this thread so far. But I will add this. There are a lot of dejected fans here talking about "well, it doesn't matter, the NFL will just sweep it under the rug". Remember that the power is in the fan's hands. There are millions of us, and only a few dozen decision-makers, if even. If we rise up, Goodell is gone. Kraft is gone, Etc. When will we stop being doormats? Make your voice heard. Demand action! What is this self-defeatist crap? This is America dude, citizens here barely take part in democracy by voting, and you think they will get off their combined azsez and protest how football is run? Not in your lifetime, not ever, hate to say it but Americans are far to lazy to even give it a passing thought, it would take a minor effort and a tiny bit of sacrifice, and that ain’t gonna happen, you must be stoned... What needs to happen is having the NFLs monopoly taken away, but that ain’t gonna happen either, our elected officials are to big of a bunch of pansies to dare to confront 32 billionaires. Edited December 11, 2019 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: This is America dude, citizens here barely take part in democracy by voting, and you think they will get off their combined azsez and protest how football is run? Perhaps the fact the citizens don’t have to get off their ‘azsez’ to protest via the social media is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Perhaps the fact the citizens don’t have to get off their ‘azsez’ to protest via the social media is the key. Still to much effort involved, it would take up to much of their coveted internet surfing and shopping time, ain’t ever gonna happen, far to lazy. It would take sticking to it for a prolonged period, no way. Edited December 11, 2019 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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