BITE ME Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: It could easily be a crossroad of the season. No matter what happens during the game they have to come out with a win. The Bills will beat the Dolphins. IMO it is Denver at home that will determine the season. Denver is a good team. A loss there could be the beginning of the collapse. Denver, Dallas, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Patriots is a brutal stretch. They could easily drop 5 straight and will be underdogs in 4 of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: The Bills will beat the Dolphins. IMO it is Denver at home that will determine the season. Denver is a good team. A loss there could be the beginning of the collapse. Denver, Dallas, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Patriots is a brutal stretch. They could easily drop 5 straight and will be underdogs in 4 of them. What you say is reasonable. But wouldn't a loss to the fish multiply all of what you say. At this point of the season with their record it's pretty much a must win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, ColoradoBills said: What you say is reasonable. But wouldn't a loss to the fish multiply all of what you say. At this point of the season with their record it's pretty much a must win. Yeah, but if the Bills lost a road game to a bad Dolphins team they could rebound at home. I just can't see how they rebound from a home loss to the Broncos with the Cowboys on the road on 4 days rest, then Baltimore at home, and then Pittsburgh and New England on the road. It looks like a guaranteed 5 straight losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: Yeah, but if the Bills lost a road game to a bad Dolphins team they could rebound at home. I just can't see how they rebound from a home loss to the Broncos with the Cowboys on the road on 4 days rest, then Baltimore at home, and then Pittsburgh and New England on the road. It looks like a guaranteed 5 straight losses. I see them needing to win the next 2 to have a decent chance to make the playoffs. But that is just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stank_Nasty Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: can anyone honestly ever remember such health at going passed the midseason mark? we freaking HAVE to capitalize on this and the schedule. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: can anyone honestly ever remember such health at going passed the midseason mark? we freaking HAVE to capitalize on this and the schedule. I'm sure Glass Half Empty Guy will have something to say about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: can anyone honestly ever remember such health at going passed the midseason mark? we freaking HAVE to capitalize on this and the schedule. It’s awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Chaos said: It seems like since the Dolphins game people discovered it might just be easier to run straight up the middle. i think you are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LABILLBACKER Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Chaos said: It seems like since the Dolphins game people discovered it might just be easier to run straight up the middle. With the exception of Wallace, our dbs & lbs all cover great. But like you said what good is it if we can't stop the run. Rewatched the game last night. Star and Murphy are worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 Snow White lol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I have a weird feeling about this game... I feel like either we are going to blow them out or we are going to lose a close one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 59 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: With the exception of Wallace, our dbs & lbs all cover great. But like you said what good is it if we can't stop the run. Rewatched the game last night. Star and Murphy are worthless. Levi is fine in a zone scheme. He’s not able to consistently match up with good WRs in man coverage. He doesn’t have the speed, size or athleticism. The Billy typically play zone but have gone to man for certain matchups and I think Kevin Johnson is a better fit for that Edited November 13, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Told yah last week that the spread would hurt feelings and the Bills would lose. Good news, they roll this week. Get it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 A lot of people seem to think that Star, Murphy and Wallace are the three weaknesses that opponents continuously target. Do the Bills coaches see it the same way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s awesome Agreed. On one hand, it’s disappointing if we stumble down the stretch because it means we just aren’t good enough. On the other, injuries aren’t an excuse and it presents a great opportunity to fully evaluate your roster to determine who is part of future plans. Sure there is luck involved with injuries, but at least to some degree, that new training/recovery facility is already paying dividends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 57 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Levi is fine in a zone scheme. He’s not able to consistently match up with good WRs in man coverage. He doesn’t have the speed, size or athleticism. The Billy typically play zone but have gone to man for certain matchups and I think Kevin Johnson is a better fit for that Levi Wallace has done a bang up job for what he is. An overlooked and under recruited Alabama walk on to starter and undrafted FA. Everything positive we’ve got from him has been gravy and to large degree completely unexpected. With that said, I’m firmly in the camp of giving Kevin Johnson more opportunities with the starting unit. First round pedigree. Has played decently when healthy in Houston. Just roll him out there and see what he can do. That or...bring back EJ Gaines *ducks*. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 A couple things of extreme importance: Why are they practicing outside in the freezing cold when they play IN Miami this week? Anyone else tired of McD’s pressers? I stopped listening long ago when it became clear he’d never give anything of substance, and yet, I find myself even annoyed for the snippets that I do hear. I don’t know the guy, and I get it’s a business, but doesn’t seem like a guy I’d want to get a drink with. White on Blue will always make me think of Shady (RIP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: A couple things of extreme importance: Why are they practicing outside in the freezing cold when they play IN Miami this week? Anyone else tired of McD’s pressers? I stopped listening long ago when it became clear he’d never give anything of substance, and yet, I find myself even annoyed for the snippets that I do hear. I don’t know the guy, and I get it’s a business, but doesn’t seem like a guy I’d want to get a drink with. White on Blue will always make me think of Shady (RIP) I’m sure he’s tired of them too but he’s obligated to do them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: A couple things of extreme importance: Why are they practicing outside in the freezing cold when they play IN Miami this week? Anyone else tired of McD’s pressers? I stopped listening long ago when it became clear he’d never give anything of substance, and yet, I find myself even annoyed for the snippets that I do hear. I don’t know the guy, and I get it’s a business, but doesn’t seem like a guy I’d want to get a drink with. White on Blue will always make me think of Shady (RIP) Everyone on earth already knows what we're doing on offense and defense every week. Not sure what else you want to hear from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: Everyone on earth already knows what we're doing on offense and defense every week. Not sure what else you want to hear from him. I want to hear nothing from him. That is why I don’t listen to them anymore. What I’d WANT to hear is something similar to what we’re getting from Kruger. He offers up specific analysis of their schemes, provides specific criticisms and actually sounds like he is an engaged and interested human being (pretty sure McD is half robot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I want to hear nothing from him. That is why I don’t listen to them anymore. What I’d WANT to hear is something similar to what we’re getting from Kruger. He offers up specific analysis of their schemes, provides specific criticisms and actually sounds like he is an engaged and interested human being (pretty sure McD is half robot). I like Bill Belichick's pressers, personally. He does them right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Are the odds -6.5 or the point spread? I’m confused. If it’s odds, is it -6.5 to 1. So I bet $100 for Bills to win and I lose my $100 and still owe $35? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, BringBackFergy said: Are the odds -6.5 or the point spread? I’m confused. If it’s odds, is it -6.5 to 1. So I bet $100 for Bills to win and I lose my $100 and still owe $35? I need a good lawyer to see what my legal right are Can I be sued for a copy paste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 11 hours ago, Gugny said: I had no idea you were VanCity!! Yeah. My account went into the ether. I can see that it exists, but couldn't get my e-mails to change my password which decided not to work any more. i like this screen name better anyway.I haven't lived in Vancouver for over 12 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 This game is not a MUST win situation, in the event you think the Bills are gonna make the Playoffs! THAT was last week, because 9-7 won’t cut it and there are too many deficiencies at: the OC position, the eedgit Kicker, Josh Allen’s painfully slow, 1 TD per Half, Offensive production to believe that Bills are going to steal one at Home v.s. Top 4 Ravens or Away on Thanksgiving in D or @ Dallas. However, Losing to the Fish would simply be embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: This game is not a MUST win situation, in the event you think the Bills are gonna make the Playoffs! THAT was last week, because 9-7 won’t cut it and there are too many deficiencies at: the OC position, the eedgit Kicker, Josh Allen’s painfully slow, 1 TD per Half, Offensive production to believe that Bills are going to steal one at Home v.s. Top 4 Ravens or Away on Thanksgiving in D or @ Dallas. However, Losing to the Fish would simply be embarrassing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: Are the odds -6.5 or the point spread? I’m confused. If it’s odds, is it -6.5 to 1. So I bet $100 for Bills to win and I lose my $100 and still owe $35? Just send your $100 to me and all will be made clear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: Are the odds -6.5 or the point spread? I’m confused. If it’s odds, is it -6.5 to 1. So I bet $100 for Bills to win and I lose my $100 and still owe $35? I’m assuming this is a real question. This is the answer. Football can be bet multiple ways (in legal betting bricks and mortar places + on line) through a myriad of options. The two most common are Point Spread OR Money Line. In this scenario, IF you bet the Bills -6.5 on the Point Spread, you need to put up $110 to win $100! For you to cash, the Bills must win by 7. The extra $10 (10%) is the charge (juice, vig) for making the bet. NOBODY does this out of the goodness of their hearts! It’s a biz. OR, you bet the Money Line. In my own example at the Bills being favoured by 6, you need to put up $260 to win $100! (I don’t ever do that- some do) Conversely, if you want the Fish, you get the +6.5, but it still costs you $110. OR, you take the Fish on the M.L. for $100 and can win...$215 (with my line) That’s your 100 + 215= $315. Capiche? Edited November 14, 2019 by Billsatlastin2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 11 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: A couple things of extreme importance: Why are they practicing outside in the freezing cold when they play IN Miami this week? Anyone else tired of McD’s pressers? I stopped listening long ago when it became clear he’d never give anything of substance, and yet, I find myself even annoyed for the snippets that I do hear. I don’t know the guy, and I get it’s a business, but doesn’t seem like a guy I’d want to get a drink with. White on Blue will always make me think of Shady (RIP) Isn’t every coach like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 It is all about winning. It doesn't matter how we get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: This game is not a MUST win situation, in the event you think the Bills are gonna make the Playoffs! THAT was last week, because 9-7 won’t cut it and there are too many deficiencies at: the OC position, the eedgit Kicker, Josh Allen’s painfully slow, 1 TD per Half, Offensive production to believe that Bills are going to steal one at Home v.s. Top 4 Ravens or Away on Thanksgiving in D or @ Dallas. However, Losing to the Fish would simply be embarrassing. 9-7 might cut it. The AFC is having a down year. Hopefully the Browns do us a favor tonight and knock off the Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, Greg S said: 9-7 might cut it. The AFC is having a down year. Hopefully the Browns do us a favor tonight and knock off the Steelers. Fair point, I would have agreed that 9-7 might do the trick a few weeks ago b/c I didn't take the Raiders or the Steelers (w/ Rudolph at QB) seriously. However, both of these teams have built a lot of positive momentum and I believe the Raiders have the easiest remaining schedule in the league. The next two weeks against Miami and Denver plus the games against Pittsburgh and the Jets loom large as "must wins" for us to get to 10 victories and hopefully make the playoffs on our own strength (let's give our favorite red-head from Cincinnati the day off this year! He's benched so he can't save us anyways). To your second point, everyone cross your fingers for a Browns win tonight. Would help us in the WC race and also probably make us feel a bit better about last week's loss. Let's hope the Steelers go on a losing streak and have nothing left to play for by the time we face them. I'm planning to book tickets soon for the Jets game on Dec 29th and I just really hope that game still means something when the time comes... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Greg S said: 9-7 might cut it. The AFC is having a down year. Hopefully the Browns do us a favor tonight and knock off the Steelers. Probably not, many teams looking to be 10-6 by the end of the season. If the Bills are 9-7 most likely be out of the playoffs. Edited November 14, 2019 by Boca BIlls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Pbomb said: Isn’t every coach like this Yes. No coach in his right mind is going to talk openly and honestly about schemes, strategies, strengths, and weaknesses to the media. Especially in the middle of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Yes. No coach in his right mind is going to talk openly and honestly about schemes, strategies, strengths, and weaknesses to the media. Especially in the middle of the season. Just the usual foolishness. People hating because we lost last sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 10 hours ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: This game is not a MUST win situation, in the event you think the Bills are gonna make the Playoffs! THAT was last week, because 9-7 won’t cut it and there are too many deficiencies at: the OC position, the eedgit Kicker, Josh Allen’s painfully slow, 1 TD per Half, Offensive production to believe that Bills are going to steal one at Home v.s. Top 4 Ravens or Away on Thanksgiving in D or @ Dallas. However, Losing to the Fish would simply be embarrassing. so then you think we already missed the playoffs because we lost last week? Put your money where your mouth is then and bet me that we dont. I'm game for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: so then you think we already missed the playoffs because we lost last week? Put your money where your mouth is then and bet me that we dont. I'm game for that. I bet EVERY week, kid! But, I try NOT to bet against the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: I bet EVERY week, kid! But, I try NOT to bet against the I haven't made a bet of any kind since 1993. No lie. I promised myself that the next time that Buffalo makes the Super Bowl or Stan's Cup that I would bet as much as possible against them. ....so I'm still waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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