Week 11: Bills at Dolphins - Spread: Bills -6.5

[CincyBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Look out Miami here come to Bills to beat you 10-9

 

And I wouldn't have any problem with that.  Just like I would be very happy today had Buffalo beat Cleveland 16 - 12 yesterday!

 

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Weather could be a factor down there. That humidity does things to people. This game will be a challenge unfortunately. As is every single week with the Bills  

[Sig1Hunter]

33 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Even more than Joe in Winslow?

 

 

On a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being a @Joe in Winslow and a 10 being a ScottLaw, you are a solid 9.5. 

Edited November 12, 2019 by Sig1Hunter

[Big C]

10 hours ago, billspro said:

 

I’m not saying 12-4 is mediocre. The talent margin is so slim in the NFL. That’s why you see dominant teams like the Rams become mediocre the next year with essentially the same roster. Year to year league.

 

I think overall you're right. However, this also speaks a lot to the quality of coaching and the QB. Goff and Trubisky are both marginal-at-best QBs, but their coach made them work. Eventually, other coaches caught up to what they were doing, and now they are struggling again. It may not be quite that simple, but that has a lot to do with it. 

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Weather could be a factor down there. That humidity does things to people. This game will be a challenge unfortunately. As is every single week with the Bills  

Forecast calls for 78 degrees with 68% humidity.  Not terrible.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Under / over is 39?!?  Sign me up!  I gots me 5 k to recoup, suckers!

*
Notice I didn’t say which side I was betting...?

[EmotionallyUnstable]

6 hours ago, Sig1Hunter said:

On a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being a @Joe in Winslow and a 10 being a ScottLaw, you are a solid 9.5. 

This is bad math 

 

if he is the bench mark for a 10, how is he a 9.5?!

 

Joe should be the 10 for his hijacking of making every thread about Oliver 

[njbuff]

I hope the Bills de-activate Smith and give Sweeney a shot.

 

Smith is utterly useless out there, so why not put the younger player in. He can’t be as useless as Smith. Can he?

[MILFHUNTER#518]

16 minutes ago, njbuff said:

I hope the Bills de-activate Smith and give Sweeney a shot.

 

Smith is utterly useless out there, so why not put the younger player in. He can’t be as useless as Smith. Can he?

I would like to see Tyler Croft catch a pass 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

13. Buffalo Bills (6-3)    Week 10 ranking: 13

 

Most important game left: Dec. 15 at Steelers

 

The Steelers have been resurgent over the past few weeks, winning four of five games to vault into AFC wild-card contention. With the Colts, Raiders and Titans all jockeying with Buffalo and Pittsburgh for the conference's two wild-card spots, this late-season matchup will go a long ways toward deciding who gets it -- and establishing a tiebreaker. -- Marcel Louis-Jacques

 

I don't write them I just post em 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

https://sports.yahoo.com/sean-mcdermott-remains-confident-josh-121940244.html

 

“I remain confident in Josh,” McDermott said, via NewYorkUpstate.com. “When you look at what we’ve been able to do with the way he’s been able to develop in short to intermediate [throws] this year, and certainly I understand [he needs to be able to] go down the field with accuracy. And that’s where execution comes in.”

 

Accuracy is a major issue for Allen, who is ranked ahead of only James Winston and Marcus Mariota in that metric this season. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

13. Buffalo Bills (6-3)    Week 10 ranking: 13

 

Most important game left: Dec. 15 at Steelers

 

The Steelers have been resurgent over the past few weeks, winning four of five games to vault into AFC wild-card contention. With the Colts, Raiders and Titans all jockeying with Buffalo and Pittsburgh for the conference's two wild-card spots, this late-season matchup will go a long ways toward deciding who gets it -- and establishing a tiebreaker. -- Marcel Louis-Jacques

 

I don't write them I just post em 

 

 

NFL Power Rankings: 49ers could have, and should have, taken a tie

 

11. Buffalo Bills (6-3, LW: 7)

By now we kind of know the deal with the Bills. They’re not bad but not as good as their record. They shouldn’t have lost to the Browns, but it wasn’t a shock. They are 6-3 and in almost no danger of missing the playoffs because their schedule still lines up well. You can practically pencil them in for a game at the No. 4 seed on wild-card weekend, and nobody outside of Buffalo will be too excited to watch.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

Understand the pessimism following what might be the most 'Bill-sy' loss we've had so far this year, but a few positives for this week IMO:

 

1) While Miami appears to be playing better and starting to believe in themselves these last 2 weeks, the talent gap between Cleveland and the Dolphins is insane...is there one healthy/active player on Miami's roster who would start over the equivalent player in Cleveland's lineup (not that they are the Pats or anything)? Reshad Jones if he's able to get healthy this week is the only one I can think of...

 

2) No Preston Williams or Mark Walton in this game is huge for us as they began the run of exposing Wallace and our run defense a few weeks ago. We *SHOULD* be able to contain Ballage and Albert Wilson and hopefully use this game as a way to experiment and fix our run D/#2 CB spot.

 

3) The first time we played Miami, there wasn't a ton of game tape available on Fitz yet. Logically, I believe that seeing him a second time in such a short period of time will benefit our defense. Wondering if this situation could be viewed similarly to a starting pitcher's decline in performance the second/third time through the lineup in baseball...

 

Have a lot of faith that we will get the W and that BillsMafia will give us a 'home field' advantage on the road. Go Bills!

[Sig1Hunter]

2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

This is bad math 

 

if he is the bench mark for a 10, how is he a 9.5?!

 

Joe should be the 10 for his hijacking of making every thread about Oliver 

I have a theory that no one, and nothing, is a 10 out of 10. ScottLaw can always be a better ScottLaw, and I’m sure he will continue to try to be the best version of himself in the coming days and weeks. There’s always room for improvement!

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

1 hour ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said:

Understand the pessimism following what might be the most 'Bill-sy' loss we've had so far this year, but a few positives for this week IMO:

 

1) While Miami appears to be playing better and starting to believe in themselves these last 2 weeks, the talent gap between Cleveland and the Dolphins is insane...is there one healthy/active player on Miami's roster who would start over the equivalent player in Cleveland's lineup (not that they are the Pats or anything)? Reshad Jones if he's able to get healthy this week is the only one I can think of...

 

2) No Preston Williams or Mark Walton in this game is huge for us as they began the run of exposing Wallace and our run defense a few weeks ago. We *SHOULD* be able to contain Ballage and Albert Wilson and hopefully use this game as a way to experiment and fix our run D/#2 CB spot.

 

3) The first time we played Miami, there wasn't a ton of game tape available on Fitz yet. Logically, I believe that seeing him a second time in such a short period of time will benefit our defense. Wondering if this situation could be viewed similarly to a starting pitcher's decline in performance the second/third time through the lineup in baseball...

 

Have a lot of faith that we will get the W and that BillsMafia will give us a 'home field' advantage on the road. Go Bills!

there is 100 years of tape on fitz.

 

this game is by far not going to be easy (when has it been this season) for the bills. when an offense can't score points, the defense can only do you so many favors. I'm leaning toward a bills loss as bad as it is for me to believe it but when you talk about faith, I have little faith in the bills offense to get the job done.

Edited November 12, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[K-9]

10 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

there is 100 years of tape on fitz.

 

this game is by far not going to be easy (when has it been this season) for the bills. when an offense can't score points, the defense can only do you so many favors. I'm leaning toward a bills loss as bad as it is for me to believe it but when you talk about faith, I have little faith in the bills offense to get the job done.

Not in that scheme with that personnel. 

[Solomon Grundy]

I think the Bills will find their offense against the Dolphins and they will apply this concept for the rest of the season. More run game, RPO with a sprinkle of playaction for the long ball. Will be surprised seeing Josh purely in shotgun

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

36 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

there is 100 years of tape on fitz.

 

this game is by far not going to be easy (when has it been this season) for the bills. when an offense can't score points, the defense can only do you so many favors. I'm leaning toward a bills loss as bad as it is for me to believe it but when you talk about faith, I have little faith in the bills offense to get the job done.

Yes of course, he's played in the league for ages on several different teams, but as K-9 mentioned above, I meant that with Rosen starting during the early part of the Dolphins season, there was not much video for our defense to scout in terms of Fitz throwing to Miami's WRs. I am sure that some of the playbook/passing concepts changed with the switch from Rosen to Fitz. 

 

Regardless, my main point is that I think the Bills defense will be able to apply some lessons learned to this second match up with the Fish. And I'm not a Wallace hater (CBs get beat sometimes and he's a young developing player), but I am hoping to see a bit more of Kevin Johnson in this game to see what he can bring to the table. 

[K-9]

1 minute ago, nucci said:

No game tape on Fitz?

Again, not with this personnel group, this OC, these tendencies etc., etc., 

[Jauronimo]

This is likely an oversimplification, but I thought the game plan for Fitz was established 5-6 years ago: sit on everything short, stack the box, give him man coverage on the outside and dare him to beat you over the top.  

 

That's what I recall from his time in Buffalo.  Once opponents keyed in on FJ and sat on the quick stuff our offense stalled.  He doesn't have the arm talent to make you pay on the deep ball. He throws them 5 feet out of bounds or underthrows resulting in INTs.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

23 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Again, not with this personnel group, this OC, these tendencies etc., etc., 

I really don't think it would be hard to figure out fitz game regardless of scheme and player. if so, they have the game they almost won against the bills earlier in the season to go on.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Buffalo needs to score a TD or 2 by the half and the Defense needs to keep Miami out of the EZ. 

 

That will force FitzMagic into FitzTragic 

[K-9]

11 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

I really don't think it would be hard to figure out fitz game regardless of scheme and player. if so, they have the game they almost won against the bills earlier in the season to go on.

Fitz is 1/11th of the equation on offense. Every other player on that offense will be broken down and scrutinized in every aspect of his game in every game situation. It would be a mistake to assume that because Fitz did certain things with the Jets, for instance, that he would do the same with the Phins. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

16

BILLS (6-3)

↓ 3 

 

Previous rank: No. 13

The Bills looked like a middle-of-the-pack team on Sunday against the Browns, hence their placement on the Power Rankings. We saw a breakdown in three phases in Cleveland: On offense, Josh Allen sailed a couple deep balls past open receivers (sound familiar?), and Buffalo was held under 20 total points for the fifth time this season. On defense, the Browns were able to march 82 yards on 10 plays for the go-ahead score late in the fourth quarter. On special teams, kicker Steven Hauschka missed two-field goal attempts, including the 53-yarder that sealed Buffalo's fate in the final minute. At 6-3, there's no need to panic. The schedule stays light, with winnable games against the Dolphins and Broncos over the next two weeks. Take care of business there, and a playoff ticket is close to punched. But can this team be trusted right now?

 

NFL.COM  Power Rankings

Edited November 12, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[Boatdrinks]

9 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

16

BILLS (6-3)

↓ 3 

 

Previous rank: No. 13

The Bills looked like a middle-of-the-pack team on Sunday against the Browns, hence their placement on the Power Rankings. We saw a breakdown in three phases in Cleveland: On offense, Josh Allen sailed a couple deep balls past open receivers (sound familiar?), and Buffalo was held under 20 total points for the fifth time this season. On defense, the Browns were able to march 82 yards on 10 plays for the go-ahead score late in the fourth quarter. On special teams, kicker Steven Hauschka missed two-field goal attempts, including the 53-yarder that sealed Buffalo's fate in the final minute. At 6-3, there's no need to panic. The schedule stays light, with winnable games against the Dolphins and Broncos over the next two weeks. Take care of business there, and a playoff ticket is close to punched. But can this team be trusted right now?

 

NFL.COM  Power Rankings

This is a pretty fair assessment. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

12 hours ago, Sig1Hunter said:

On a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being a @Joe in Winslow and a 10 being a ScottLaw, you are a solid 9.5. 

 

Thanks for the endorsement.

 

 

[dave mcbride]

35 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

16

BILLS (6-3)

↓ 3 

 

Previous rank: No. 13

The Bills looked like a middle-of-the-pack team on Sunday against the Browns, hence their placement on the Power Rankings. We saw a breakdown in three phases in Cleveland: On offense, Josh Allen sailed a couple deep balls past open receivers (sound familiar?), and Buffalo was held under 20 total points for the fifth time this season. On defense, the Browns were able to march 82 yards on 10 plays for the go-ahead score late in the fourth quarter. On special teams, kicker Steven Hauschka missed two-field goal attempts, including the 53-yarder that sealed Buffalo's fate in the final minute. At 6-3, there's no need to panic. The schedule stays light, with winnable games against the Dolphins and Broncos over the next two weeks. Take care of business there, and a playoff ticket is close to punched. But can this team be trusted right now?

 

NFL.COM  Power Rankings

very, very fair. 

2 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

there is 100 years of tape on fitz.

 

this game is by far not going to be easy (when has it been this season) for the bills. when an offense can't score points, the defense can only do you so many favors. I'm leaning toward a bills loss as bad as it is for me to believe it but when you talk about faith, I have little faith in the bills offense to get the job done.

Yes, but he's like a tiger in the tall grasses of the savannah at this point given all of the uniform changes. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

[Albany,n.y.]

On 11/11/2019 at 8:39 AM, ScottLaw said:

I actually think they lose... Dolphins exposed the Bills a bit a few weeks ago, probably should've won that game and are playing some solid football right now. 

If you actually believe that bet Miami on the money line.  Personally I think the Bills -5.5, which is the current line is a gift.  I'll be heading to the casino this week.  

[Do The Reich Thing]

Everyone is correct in the assessment that this team can't be trusted. However, one of these weeks we're going to win convincingly and we're running out of weeks. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

[K-9]

5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Well Miami has played well for the past four weeks. Could've easily beat Pittsburgh, beat the Jets, and then the Colts(without their starting QB, but a win is a win). 

 

Considering they probably should have beat the Bills four weeks ago and how they are playing as of late along with the Bills being unable to score points, I'm skeptical the Bills win. 

That’s not an unfair take at all. 

[Chicken Boo]

Redemption game for Josh.  I think this will be his best game of the season. 

 

Singletary better see 15-20 touches!

[SCBills]

I honestly wouldn't be opposed to rolling with Singletary and Yeldon, over Gore.  

 

He doesn't bring any dynamic ability to the offense, and we're not good when we try to slow down and power run. 

 

At least with Yeldon, and the fact we want to pass more, the defense has to respect the multiplicity of our offense with whichever RB is in the game. 

 

Also, enough with Lee Smith...  Kroft and, especially Knox, are good blockers and we need to move towards a spread attack with one back who has the ability to run, block and catch/run routes out of the backfield. 

 

I'm sure this won't happen, but it seems to be a fix for a stagnant offense when we're post trade deadline and have to work with what we have.

[r00tabaga]

42 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Well Miami has played well for the past four weeks. Could've easily beat Pittsburgh, beat the Jets, and then the Colts(without their starting QB, but a win is a win). 

 

Considering they probably should have beat the Bills four weeks ago and how they are playing as of late along with the Bills being unable to score points, I'm skeptical the Bills win. 

When have you NOT been skeptical???

Omg--

 

P.S. the LOLphins suck'd sunday.  Funny how you are so hypocritical! They played poorly and beat Hoyer & his 3 bad INTs but you say they are playing good football??? The Bills have been playing better than Miami but you give them zero credit. Look at the stats. You need to pick a side someday. 

[Tesla03]

we probably win this, but it will be another close game

 

our offense can't even put up 20 points a game. Allen is regressing. good chance we finish 8-8 this season. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

44 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

Redemption game for Josh.  I think this will be his best game of the season. 

 

Singletary better see 15-20 touches!

 

Rushing Touches.    Singletary had a number of pass catches Sunday that got him close to [edit] 11 touches  

 

20 total rushes by the team 

 

 

TBH he needs a min of 20 rushing attempts

Edited November 12, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost