Dave in Avon Lake now Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: The Bills are 4-4 against the Browns since they were reconstituted in 1999. They have won the last two in convincing fashion (both in Buffalo, in 2014 and 2016), and are 0-2 at Cleveland (the 8-0 snowstorm in 2007 loss and the Monday night loss in 2013 when Jeff Tuel came in for an injured Manuel and threw a pick six that basically cost them the game). I was at the game in Cleveland when the Bills won in 2012 when my daughter's boyfriend and family invited me to join them for tailgating. I remember hundreds of Bills fans in town for that game. I remember Cleveland fans were quite nice to me and most said they only cared about beating the Steelers. Fitzpatrick was the QB and Tashard Choice was the leading rusher in that game. Most Cleveland fans left early because it was cold and rainy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, BigPappy said: I was thinking about this on my drive into work today. This game scares me a bit. Like you said, weird $**t seems to happen when we play them, and they always play us tough. Actually, the Browns are favored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Don't forget Ronnie Harmon followed by Clay Matthews before youtube a large bunch of fans blamed Kelly for this play.... then the truth came out, even though we had to wait for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: before youtube a large bunch of fans blamed Kelly for this play.... then the truth came out, even though we had to wait for it... I knew it at the time. I was screaming for Harmon's head. But listen to Merlon Olson after that. He summed up Harmon perfectly. In retrospect, it's a good thing the Bills lost that game, because the Bills could have won in Denver, but they would be 0-5 in SB's as they would have gotten destroyed by that 89 Niners team............. the greatest team of my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: In retrospect, it's a good thing the Bills lost that game, because the Bills could have won in Denver, but they would be 0-5 in SB's as they would have gotten destroyed by that 89 Niners team............. the greatest team of my lifetime. you died before Tom Brady won a Super Bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: you died before Tom Brady won a Super Bowl? There isn't one legendary all time NFL team amongst any of NE's championships. They basically stole that 2001 SB when they had no business even being competitive against the Rams. Just ask Marshall Faulk and he will tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: There isn't one legendary all time NFL team amongst any of NE's championships. They basically stole that 2001 SB when they had no business even being competitive against the Rams. Just ask Marshall Faulk and he will tell you. Yup, no Pats team will match up to the Bradshaw Steelers for HOF enshrinements or lore that was Martz psyching himself out to show what a genius he was, ignore Faulk all game long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, row_33 said: worst ever game, the 0-9 Bills hosted the 1-8 Browns. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198411040buf.htm Bills were ahead and moving the ball late in the 4th, then there's film of this.... 2 INCs a fumble return to the house and the heartbreaking clinching score by the Browns on a fumbled reception.... My first ever game in person, had just turned 9! It’s been all downhill since!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: soo by today's NFL rules Is that a "Football move"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, 4_kidd_4 said: My first ever game in person, had just turned 9! It’s been all downhill since!! i recall it being a deluge of rain, but the friend who was with me said it wasn't that bad after the game started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, The Wiz said: I was at that 6-3 game. Definitely the worst game I have ever watched. Really liked when Parrish tried to pick up the ball with 5 Brownies about 10 feet away. I was there too. Hard to imagine a worse game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said: soo by today's NFL rules Is that a "Football move"? Don Beebe would have been in concussion protocol for about 3 months in today's NFL after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, row_33 said: i recall it being a deluge of rain, but the friend who was with me said it wasn't that bad after the game started. I just remember the cold rain, I was 9 my little brother was 5, we were bundled properly, but watched from the upper deck tunnel. My dad wisely called it a day at the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, 4_kidd_4 said: I just remember the cold rain, I was 9 my little brother was 5, we were bundled properly, but watched from the upper deck tunnel. My dad wisely called it a day at the half. you didn't have that half second of joy when the ball popped out to basically seal the Bills first win that season? i was 18 that year, not a clue how i got to that game. Edited November 4, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: soo by today's NFL rules Is that a "Football move"? Ball has not hit the ground so it is still live. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, Dave in Bluffton said: I was at the game in Cleveland when the Bills won in 2012 when my daughter's boyfriend and family invited me to join them for tailgating. I remember hundreds of Bills fans in town for that game. I remember Cleveland fans were quite nice to me and most said they only cared about beating the Steelers. Fitzpatrick was the QB and Tashard Choice was the leading rusher in that game. Most Cleveland fans left early because it was cold and rainy. I neglected to include that game. Thanks. They're 1-2 there then and 5-4 overall against Browns 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: My biggest worry is the ghost of Ralph. We're talking supernatural stuff here. Darnold hasn't seen him yet, we might be in the clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 It will all hinge on whether we can stop the run. If we can hold Chubb and Hunt in check then we should be able to win the game. I do worry about Dawkins and Ford/Nsekhe facing Garrett though. Hopefully there is a gameplan in place that takes advantage of his aggressiveness. Slip screens, draw plays(with the RB's and not Josh), and some quick passes. Another thing I am hoping to see is someone light Landry's b**** a** UP out there on a crossing route or something. I could live with a 15 yarder as long as his dirty a** is leveled on Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Bad things, maaaannn.... Not a Browns game, but one of the more weird things I've seen in a Bills game is that Pats game from 2008 where the wind was so bad the goalposts were bent over. I can't recall if that 6-3 turdfest had high winds or if that was the 8-0 blizzard. Browns are hangin' by a thread in terms of the playoff picture. I just don't think Kitchens has enough buy-in and trust from that team to get them to rally. Lot of egos, lot of aggravation when things aren't going their way, etc. I wonder at what point players will start checking out and looking towards next season where they might be hoping they'll be playing elsewhere or at least under a different staff if they stay in Cleveland. A weird thing I'd like to see happen is an all-out dominant Bills victory. No hanging on by the opponent, no tripping over themselves at the two yard line and going backwards for three straight plays, etc. Also, no overly-cutesy/creative stuff from Daboll. Don't get me wrong, I think he has some creative play designs and the pre-snap motion seems to be effective at times, but at some point they really need to define their bread and butter plays and build around that in order to create an identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 44 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I was there too. Hard to imagine a worse game. the 6-3 was way better than the 1984 rain-soaked loss to the Browns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Baker Mayfield is making commercials, still not sure how he got that gig. Must have been last years hype that went horribly wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 41 minutes ago, row_33 said: you didn't have that half second of joy when the ball popped out to basically seal the Bills first win that season? i was 18 that year, not a clue how i got to that game. I was 9, I was probably just stoked that I got to drink pop all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: I was 9, I was probably just stoked that I got to drink pop all day. woulda been a good way to see things for about 2/3 of the games i attended in the 70s and 80s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 hours ago, The Wiz said: Tsunami spotted off the coast of Lake Erie. we need a good NOAA map with probability curves to aid us in handicapping the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 hours ago, TwistofFate said: My biggest worry is Myles Garrett. The guy is an animal. You're right about that. Daboll will have to game plan with him in mind, and Allen will need to take the precautions in the game plan seriously. He will not get away with holding the ball four or five seconds waiting for a receiver to get open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: I was there too. Hard to imagine a worse game. Will never forget it. And to think, Bills marketing then sent ST holders a picture of the scoreboard with their names out of it. As Moorman punted out of it. Those were dark days for being a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 6-3 loss windstorm game- I was there. What a lovely event that was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Let the weird thing be a 300 yard passing game by Allen, 100 from Motor, 3 turnovers by Baker, and an easy win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 I had a bad feeling about this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: I had a bad feeling about this game Did anything weird happen, though? I think I heard that the Browns not scoring on 6+ consecutive goal-to-go tries was some kind of record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Did anything weird happen, though? You don't think it was a weird game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Dan Darragh said: You don't think it was a weird game? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: You don't think it was a weird game? The Browns were favored to win by 2.5-3 and they won by 3. In the grand scheme of things, it was pretty typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Did anything weird happen, though? I think I heard that the Browns not scoring on 6+ consecutive goal-to-go tries was some kind of record yay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: yay It's the little things that matter... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 49 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It's the little things that matter... ? they are making me hate a 6-3 start What the freak.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, row_33 said: they are making me hate a 6-3 start What the freak.... I don't hate the start. The wins provide a great buffer for the mid-season slide, so they can still end up 10-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The Bills find a way to lose when they play the Browns in Cleveland in the most irritating ways. The playoff loss, the snow game, the terrible game where EJ got injured and today = all awful. The best game I can remember in Cleveland was when we beat Bellichick on Monday night football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 So it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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